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Tyrr

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The villain being gay, and his faggotry being part of his (evil/disgusting) character (like for example Detmold in W2), would be ok.
I can't wait for all the angry articles about "promoting toxic LGBT+ stereotypes".
 

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"A character caressing and straddling a man in bed"
Now this is curiously written.

We already know that there's stuff with Benedikta/Garuda from earlier trailers that this description would fit to. But the rating description makes it really hard to get what its referencing or why its singeling this out. Those morons could have just specified *charachter* with man or women and this would be clear, ffs. Would have been better to inform people too.

Honestly, again not really questioning the story (Dion really sounds like the gay villain you'd expect as previously mentioned), but what's now actually shown in the game confuses me.
The leak said there would be explicit homossexual scenes in the game fwiw. Wether they meant actual sex or kissing, caressing, etc is anyone's guess.
 

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Banned in the Middle Eaast because game is gay
Dion looks and sounds the part too.

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A Dominant, Dion has good looks, and is skilled in both martial and intellectual arts. .... Dion was created to be a contrast of sorts to Clive Rosfield; while Clive is driven by revenge, Dion was made in the traditional image of a prince.

Seems like a later game antagonist too considering he's repping Sanbreque (the ones that invade Clive's home) and is Bahamut's dominant.

Nearly too obvious though.
The villain...is gay? Maybe Square is making a more based statement than what seems on the surface...
Edit: I do not intend this as blind hate. I mean there is something about like PowerPuff Girls' Him, and how Satan is depicted in The Passion of Christ as some strange androgynous freak which points to a subversive nature of evil trying to "break out" of the natural order. Inverted masculine in a way that is grotesque. The subversion and overthrow of nature in its most base form. It's funny because the western world is mired in this right now. What is more basic than raw binary truth? Man, or woman. That is it. That is all you get. Everything else is coping neuroticism. It is almost secondary that Him (in PPG) is gay/effeminate, it flows out of his inner disorder, the same as Satan in Passion. Doubt Square will go there with this though, but it's still interesting. Useless and dumb to show him actually kissing a guy or whatever. You don't need any of that to convey the point I'm making.
 
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Banned in the Middle Eaast because game is gay
Dion looks and sounds the part too.

dion-lesage-is-best-boy-and-is-going-to-be-a-fan-favorite-v0-xhdkt4vee7ta1.jpg


A Dominant, Dion has good looks, and is skilled in both martial and intellectual arts. .... Dion was created to be a contrast of sorts to Clive Rosfield; while Clive is driven by revenge, Dion was made in the traditional image of a prince.

Seems like a later game antagonist too considering he's repping Sanbreque (the ones that invade Clive's home) and is Bahamut's dominant.

Nearly too obvious though.
The villain...is gay?
The only thing I'm fairly certain about is that he's a villain. Not the.

I also assume its late game since he's the dominant of the *evil empire* of this FF and well, it's Bahamut. I also can't say if he's a schemer or a pawn doing terrible things (We do see Bahamut destroy a town in a trailer IIRC).
 
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... So straight sex scenes are still off the table, but gay sex scenes are fine? Or did I miss something about FF and sex? Not that that's what I look for in gaming anyway, just more that it strikes me as odd that they would present gay sex, but not straight sex if they're going to do either. Assuming that it's not a gay porn game, which might be a big leap considering Final Fantasy's history of femmeboy protagonists.
 
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... So straight sex scenes are still off the table, but gay sex scenes are fine? Or did I miss something about FF and sex?
From what I can gather, FFXVI has actual Bioware-esque sex scenes, both straight and gay stuff.

Judging from the trailers, I was expecting a scene with two characters lying half naked in bed, but I definitely wasn't expecting numerous scenes with humping and straddling.

I wonder who mandated this.
 

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... So straight sex scenes are still off the table, but gay sex scenes are fine? Or did I miss something about FF and sex?
From what I can gather, FFXVI has actual Bioware-esque sex scenes, both straight and gay stuff.

Judging from the trailers, I was expecting a scene with two characters lying half naked in bed, but I definitely wasn't expecting numerous scenes with humping and straddling.

I wonder who mandated this.
Square tries to revive Final Fantasy on the backs of Biowhores. Who saw that one coming?

My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.
 

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... So straight sex scenes are still off the table, but gay sex scenes are fine? Or did I miss something about FF and sex?
From what I can gather, FFXVI has actual Bioware-esque sex scenes, both straight and gay stuff.

Judging from the trailers, I was expecting a scene with two characters lying half naked in bed, but I definitely wasn't expecting numerous scenes with humping and straddling.

I wonder who mandated this.
No actual humping (as in shown) has been confirmed in any form. I doubt it personally and I'd assume the report you posted would have mentioned it.

Also mediocrepoet . Straight scene with charachters being together in bed has been confirmed in several trailers. Did you miss that? Again Benedikta/Garuda. No humping though.

For example:



 
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... So straight sex scenes are still off the table, but gay sex scenes are fine? Or did I miss something about FF and sex?
From what I can gather, FFXVI has actual Bioware-esque sex scenes, both straight and gay stuff.

Judging from the trailers, I was expecting a scene with two characters lying half naked in bed, but I definitely wasn't expecting numerous scenes with humping and straddling.

I wonder who mandated this.
No actual humping has been confirmed in any form. I doubt it personally and I'd assume the report you posted would have mentioned it.

Also mediocrepoet . Straight scene with charachters being together in bed has been confirmed in several trailers. Did you miss that? Again Benedikta/Garuda. No humping though.

For example:




I'd be lying if I said I was following the game beyond skimming this thread now and again. I have more than a sneaking suspicion that this one isn't for me.

Good to know though, thanks.
 

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Square and Bioware both need taken out to the woodshed, Old Yeller style. Ain't no place for their gay degenerate trash. The people will continue to reject it.
It depends on if they can keep on securing money from women or not (I'm guessing the gay shit is ESG simping for money).
 
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... So straight sex scenes are still off the table, but gay sex scenes are fine? Or did I miss something about FF and sex?
From what I can gather, FFXVI has actual Bioware-esque sex scenes, both straight and gay stuff.

Judging from the trailers, I was expecting a scene with two characters lying half naked in bed, but I definitely wasn't expecting numerous scenes with humping and straddling.

I wonder who mandated this.
Square tries to revive Final Fantasy on the backs of Biowhores. Who saw that one coming?

My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.
It would be justice for all the decades they've been trying to ape jrpgs.
 
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My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.
They have been hiding the globohomo agenda the entire time, though. FFXVI has been marketed as a straight male power fantasy since the very beginning, not even a single bit of gay content is to be seen in any marketing material.

But we still have six weeks to go. Maybe they are saving "the best" for last.
 

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My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.
They have been hiding the globohomo agenda the entire time, though. FFXVI has been marketed as a straight male power fantasy since the very beginning, not even a single bit of gay content is to be seen in any marketing material.

But we still have six weeks to go. Maybe they are saving "the best" for last.
They know that the only guys who want a power fantasy are closet fags. :smug:

So how long ago did you preorder?
 

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My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.
They have been hiding the globohomo agenda the entire time, though. FFXVI has been marketed as a straight male power fantasy since the very beginning, not even a single bit of gay content is to be seen in any marketing material.

But we still have six weeks to go. Maybe they are saving "the best" for last.

What about the character designs? That wasn't telling enough?
 

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My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.
They have been hiding the globohomo agenda the entire time, though. FFXVI has been marketed as a straight male power fantasy since the very beginning, not even a single bit of gay content is to be seen in any marketing material.

But we still have six weeks to go. Maybe they are saving "the best" for last.

What about the character designs? That wasn't telling enough?
Not sure what charachter looks particulary gay apart from Dion, especially for FF standards. (Who's the one in question here). MC in his youth, maybe? But even there Jill is pushed hard as love interest
 
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My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.
They have been hiding the globohomo agenda the entire time, though. FFXVI has been marketed as a straight male power fantasy since the very beginning, not even a single bit of gay content is to be seen in any marketing material.

But we still have six weeks to go. Maybe they are saving "the best" for last.

Simple reason is again that fighting Dion/Bahamut (Apart from probably mini appearances) and confronting the empire is later game content. The furthest they shown so far apart from random stuff to show off areas is batteling Titan and the desert seems to be an early location.

Though I doubt they would have shown it off anyway, so dunno when its actually shown.

Edit: Also never pre-order. In general. Especially if you're on the lookout for potential SJW stuff that shit (and its worst examples) is almost never revealed beforehand until people play and find it. And then you can consider on actual examples if it bothers you. Helped me play some games I wouldn't have otherwise and avoid others I would have digged right in.
 
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Anyone else frankly tired of popular fantasy franchises/wannabe new authors trying to be the next Game of Thrones?

Like, fucking tryhards, these stupid goddamn pussy bitches would have CONNIPTIONS if they read something like Berserk instead. (Yes, yes, I know that GRR Martin himself is currently working on a video game that has a few nods to Berserk).
 

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On the other hand...

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The most infuriating part about this is that it's just a lie. It would be a perfectly valid argument if it were made, because there has never been a meaningful population of sub-saharan African immigrants anywhere in Europe prior to the 21st century, but that wasn't his argument. He gave an incredibly detailed, thoughtful response (which the question did not warrant at all) outlining the game's unique setting and circumstances which perfectly explained the homogeneity, even compared to other mainline final fantasies, but that doesn't matter to these people at all. They clearly didn't even read it. You can't even find his original explanation with a google search anymore, only endless indistinguishable AI-authored articles complaining about it.
 
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... So straight sex scenes are still off the table, but gay sex scenes are fine? Or did I miss something about FF and sex?
From what I can gather, FFXVI has actual Bioware-esque sex scenes, both straight and gay stuff.

Judging from the trailers, I was expecting a scene with two characters lying half naked in bed, but I definitely wasn't expecting numerous scenes with humping and straddling.

I wonder who mandated this.
Square tries to revive Final Fantasy on the backs of Biowhores. Who saw that one coming?

My bet is that they learned lessons about who their fan base is from the ERP FFXIV die hards.

They most likely weren’t think of BioWare. They were probably thinking of the far larger and less prude CD Projekt Red... and maybe HBO’s Game of Thrones show and even Berserk.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
There's a final hands on preview bonanza that covers the first 10h of the game.
 

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Watching this and wondering: what's the point of creating a combat system where fighting a regular mob takes 50+ hits to kill it? Such a waste of time.

I skipped around a bit through the video. There was animal life and such being killed quickly. The larger / stronger guys looked to take a while but nothing crazy. The fighting is important so there really shouldnt be much in the way of one shotting everything.
 

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