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Good Doom/Heretic/Hexen WADs

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by AngryEddy, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. JackOfOwls Erudite

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    In my defense, I was drunk and/or drugged (say, how 'bout them chocolate edibles and tasty THC tinctures that are sweet as syrup?) when I wrote that post, but I choose FREEEEDOM, including the right to be juvenile, childish and full of bad taste when authoring pwads. Bless the beasts and Tormentor667.
     
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  2. JackOfOwls Erudite

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    You need to start thinking outside the umbrella, son.
     
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  3. Ol' Willy Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Zionist Agent

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    Why enemies speak German, bosses have German names, German signs around and German posters on the walls?
     
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  4. Dayyālu Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I didn't even manage to play BoA Chapter 3, I was waiting (hoping) for some goddamn fixes because the threads were a death march of people complaining that it was borderline unplayable out of the box thanks to the usual BoA "performance and level design are optional, add more shit that no one will ever see because the game is a slideshow" instead.

    I'd argue the non-existant problem is that BoA is even too kitchen-sink. They threw everything from space Nazis to experiments to zombies to ghosts to Lovecraft to aliens to whatever, zombie slaughter in a concentration camp was just a matter of time, and it's not like the other chapters didn't use the same themes. Someone wanted to be offended now.

    And for once I'll say, it's far, far less ghastly than what Bethesda did with the laughingstock that was The Old Blood and NuWolf2, with a literal lesbian Anne Frank that you can leave to die to zombies... I know it's the Codex and shit, but if that wasn't offensive - and it was disgustingly exploitative - nothing that BoA threw in could ever be. I won't even bother approaching NuWolf2, that was written a a raving lunatic with race fetishes.

    Also, people should have understood since the Sarge times (and the witch-hunt that followed) that the Doom community is amazing, but also prone to quite ferocious cliques that are going to rip each other apart at first notice. Thread carefully in Doomworld.
     
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  5. mogwaimon Savant

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    all prejudices aside, it's just a bit of a jolt to hear there's so many transgenders in the Doom community of all things. Like, it's supposed to be such a small percentage of the population to begin with but also Doom is sort of one of the most high testosterone manly games ever created so how the fuck did that end up happening? And it's not like this is a new game either, this is a boomer game so it's like, what the fuck happened? Boggles my mind, it does.
     
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  6. Zeem Novice

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    Might be correlated with autism and "extreme male brain" to some degree. Probably porn consumption too.

    On a more topical note, I want to shill Project Babel. Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but it is a great gameplay mod which tweaks the arsenal and overhauls enemy AI in couple of elegantly simple ways - namely allowing them to synchronize their attacks and adding fear mechanics plus a handful of other minor changes. Also has a monster-only version that plays very well with various weapon packs. I quite like using Final Doomer with it, the slight buffs to most weapons are balanced very well by more aggressive and capable demons.
    https://babel-mod.neocities.org
     
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  7. Curratum Magister

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    For what it's worth, the level in the concentration camp with which BoA Ep 3 opens up runs with about 20 fps on a decent i5, 16 ram and an RX 570 4gb, because Tormentor is great at making Doom mods, so I don't think you're really missing out on a lot, even if you never touch BoA.
     
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  8. OctavianRomulus Learned

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    Where can I get it?
     
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  9. lightbane Arcane

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    Wait what? Seriously? Clearly game journos missed that one, as that sounds hilariously edgy.
    Funny that crazies complain that the mod has obvious Nazi imagery just like the modern ones, but only the mod is shit-talked.

    PREGNANT WOMAN DUAL-WIELDING MACHINEGUNS!!!
    Also, evil big baddess looking like Hillary vaguely and suffering an extremely graphic death.

    GZDoom forums are allegedly better. Funny that DW re-accepted Sarge back, but now Torm is THE ENEMY!!! Wasn't the guy behind Strange Aeons cancelled because his latest mod poked fun at the Black Looter Murderers (supposedly)?
     
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  10. Ol' Willy Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Zionist Agent

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    Strange Aeons is awesome
     
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  11. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Wasteland 2
    >she

    >she

    >her
     
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  12. JackOfOwls Erudite

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    I just checked out the first area of Chapter 3 of BoA (after the nightmare sequence and HQ) in the concentration camp. Even on my i9 10850K chip running at 4,800 MHz it drops to as low as 40 FPS (which I don't think is actually too bad), averages about 50-60 FPS, but I feel for you who may have potato PCs or something more mid-range. Also, the level of obsessive detail in this thing is positively daunting. It took me 10-20 minutes just to find my way out of the headquarters. I can't say that this is particularly good game design (I heard some of the levels in BoA are ridiculously sprawling... and tedious because of that) but it's obvious that Daniel and his team are talented modders. I hope his own community on Doomworld turning against him doesn't deter him from future projects or continuing to polish this one. He's done some of the most innovative things I've ever seen in the Doom I/II modding scene, and did it with some competence and conviction. It's almost a shame their hardcore approach to WWII history in Germany became their undoing in this new dark age of wokeness. Dudes were just trying to be authentic about their passion.
     
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  13. OctavianRomulus Learned

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    These morons aren't actually offended, they just want to feel like they have power over someone who is guilty of perceived offences.
     
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  14. Curratum Magister

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    Nothing to see here, just Doomworld forum users grooming newcomers into "learning from your mistakes" and being "willing to adapt to these new things"...

    [​IMG]

    Note that it's only ever "ok" if you're willing to adapt to these new things. Otherwise, you're obviously an enemy of the state.
     
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  15. OctavianRomulus Learned

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    You should check the GitHub comments too...Basically, since Torm is from Germany, he could get into trouble if this blows up. https://github.com/Realm667/WolfenDoom/issues/795

    Anyway, anyone got a link to BOA 3?
     
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  16. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Wasteland 2
    [​IMG]

    This is like a masterclass in every dirty little rhetorical trick you could think of.

    Honestly, I don't blame Tormentor for being paranoid about being reported when he lives in a third-world shithole like Germany. But my personal opinion is that if you're going to be making edgy, nazi-related content, perhaps having a team member based in Germany and setting your standard for what's acceptable around that country is a disaster waiting to happen.
     
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  17. Ol' Willy Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Zionist Agent

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  18. Grauken Professional Procrastinator Patron

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    Being right and getting it are two things, even in Germany a long law dispute can be costly even if you get cleared of everything in the end
     
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  19. lightbane Arcane

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    For those asking for a link...
    I like how "it" contradicts itself every few lines. And then it uses the "don't misgender me!" line, word for word. And "it" showed up to ensure the mod was censored properly to boot.

    It was fine for the first two episodes and it's been years since the mod is a thing. Perhaps they thought they would be safe. Even the Nu-Wokenstein games were eventually given a pass there.
     
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  20. Ol' Willy Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Zionist Agent

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    I mean, courts would be interested in a guy making non-profit mods for a Doom?
     
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  21. Grauken Professional Procrastinator Patron

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    Well, thanks to the Streisand effect more people know about and have downloaded version 3.0 of this than they would have without the complaints. Job well done I say
     
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  22. Grauken Professional Procrastinator Patron

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    They usually don't give a crap but if you have a malicious actor who raises a ruckus about SJW shit who knows what'll happen in clownworld
     
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