Gothic Gothic remake from THQ Nordic

[Peachcurl]

The outcome when a remake is successful: more remakes. Thank you for saving the world of video games, retard.

Westerners are the only ones stuck on words, phrases, and practices that lead to retardation instead of leading into progress. In a normal circumstance, word "remake" would be signaling a positive makeover. And easily so, but your Western practices have made a habit of making it a virtue signal instead. You've been turning phrases like "woke" into a parody too, doesn't mean that everything in existence is going to reflect your deranged examples. So sit back, relax, and watch how we do "remakes" in this bitch, nigga.

Yes, they started looking pretty Western. Then someone said "wait a minute, let's not. Let's actually do the damn work". And they actually did, and they keep proving and showing that resolve, one step at a time, further indicating that it's not gonna be a rushed mess either. There is EVERY REASON to believe. If you wanna blind yourself to what is clearly going on in the case of Gothic Remake, to everything said and posted within this very thread and across various media outlets, go ahead - noone's gonna give enough fucks to stop you from being like that. I'll be over here putting my money on them and slowclapping the shit out of what they're doing.

Timestamp. Lata, bitch.

You're like a woman on her 8th abusive relationship. No, this one's different he's not like all the other men who were carbon copies of eachother. A black eye? Oh, I must've fallen, silly me!

Ok retard, look I forward seeing you in the thread for the definitive edition of the remastered version of the Gothic Remake Remake where this time it will be really different.

Issue with that simile is that once you've run into that many guys like that you're as much of the problem as they are for continuing to go after such men~

But I need more love gothic

 

[Tyranicon]

All this talk made me download the original. Not sure about the proper mod list, so I just threw on a bunch of the most popular ones.

 

[Skinwalker]

Mods?!

 

[TheSecondRanger]

If it were a new Gothic i would be heavily excited (Gothic 3 vibes). But alas, it is only a remake of a game I played already too often.

 

[sosmoflux]

Take the remake pill boyos. They can't make new things anymore anyway.

 

[Maxie]

Take the remake pill boyos. They can't make new things anymore anyway.

nobody asks them to, all the good games have already been made

 

[ShiningSoldier]

You can be playing Gothic in 10 minutes if you want to play Gothic. You don't want Gothic, you want daddy to jangle his shiny keys over your head while you laugh and giggle. This is called "retardation"

The edginess is amusing, but fact is, pretty much nobody who didn't play Gothic back in the day is ever gonna play it. Videogames have the distinct disadvantage of aging badly, especially early 3D ones. The remake is a chance for new generations of people to experience the greatness of the game (assuming it is well done). And for us retarded grognards it is a chance to experience it again after many years with improved graphics, playability and new content.

That said, yes there is an opportunity cost and maybe some new game or IP would be even better. Or maybe not. I will take what I can get.

The only thing that worries me is the "Unreal Engine 5" bit. UE5 is a unoptimized piece of shit that demands way too much and delivers way too little. Lords of the fallen(2023) in particular got fucked by that engine.

Afaik LOTF has been fixed and runs well (although for me it ran well at launch too, on PC). There are UE games that run great (e.g. Robocop) so it is more of a matter of developer skill whether they know how to use it properly.

If somebody says that they can't play one of the best RPGs ever made because of graphics, this is not the issue of the game - that just means this specific person is stupid. Do we really want Gothic to be popular among stupid people?
And again, about the "improvements". Nobody managed to improve Gothic in more than 20 years. Even Piranha Bytes themselves - and they tried really hard, making pale copies of the same game again and again, with little to no success. Then this studio, Alkimia Interactive, appears, and suddenly people say that they will definitely succeed. Why? This studio has no experience with making RPG games, especially the good ones. Even more - they tried to foist an abomination called "playable teaser" on us, which showed that they understand absolutely nothing about Gothic. Yes, after the shitstorm from the fans they came up with one of the stupidest explanations ever: "Err... hehe... of course we didn't want to create something like this! We only wanted to provoke the reaction of the community! Hehehe... Of course, believe us!"

 

[jaekl]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

 

[Ravielsk]

"Err... hehe... of course we didn't want to create something like this! We only wanted to provoke the reaction of the community! Hehehe... Of course, believe us!"

Now that I think about it is a major red flag how they have yet to release a proper gameplay showcase. I highly doubt the game will be delayed by another year or two yet we have yet to see a full 5 minutes of uninterrupted gameplay. Showing a series of 5-10 second clips is not gameplay. It literary tells us nothing about the state of the project besides how the game looks(not great BTW).

They quite literary cannot get any real feedback from footage like this. For all we know the game is just as fucked as the demo but just in a wholly new and shitty way. Maybe they fucked up and made the game into a sluggish mess because they assumed Gothic combat is about playing as a physics defying cripple, maybe the whole game is a grey desaturated mess because they mistook bleak for #nocolour, maybe the climbing system was removed and maybe they have a couple of months to fix it all.

If there was any sincerity behind what they are saying they would be talking about a new demo to prove how they course corrected. Instead its a lot of words, few screenshots and one lame advert.

 

[Herumor]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

Has there ever been a remake that was actually more or less better than the original game?

 

[Blutwurstritter]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

Has there ever been a remake that was actually more or less better than the original game?

The Destroy All Humans 1&2 Remakes are good and there is next to no reason to play the originals from 2005/2006.

 

[Ravielsk]

Has there ever been a remake that was actually more or less better than the original game?

Xenoblade Chronicles definitive edition? But that is only really because its mostly quality of life changes and higher resolution patch.

 

[jaekl]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

Has there ever been a remake that was actually more or less better than the original game?

The best argument I've heard is for resident evil but to me it's so backwards in tone from the original that it might as well be a different game.

 

[taxalot]

Every time I played a Gothic game

 

[Ravielsk]

The best argument I've heard is for resident evil but to me it's so backwards in tone from the original that it might as well be a different game.

Re-remakes are different games to the originals. RE-remake of 1 is the closest to the original and arguably better. Its different tonally but to be honest the tone of the original was such a product of its time that I would argue its unfair to expect anyone to carry it over. So its a rare example of a good remake that will however never be repeated for a variety of reasons.

Re-remakes 2-3-4 are just different games loosely based on the originals. They do not even have content parity with the original releases(especially RE2 and RE3 are missing entire chunks and game systems) so even calling them remakes is disingenuous. They are more like officially sanctioned fan games and the experience they offer is just not the same as the originals.
Overall they are not horrid games but hardly good remakes.

 

[toro]

Take the remake pill boyos. They can't make new things anymore anyway.

I wish we weren't in this situation but at this point even a Gothic remake is incline because they are remaking one of the best open-world RPG ever.

The devs don't have any history but from the latest trailer it looks like this remake could be quite competent. The remake is a new game in a new engine and it's almost impossible to capture the atmosphere of the original game but at least it looks like they are heading in the right direction and personally I'm curious how the exploration will feel with new mechanics like climbing and underwater swimming.

However the most important thing is that it will introduce a new audience to these games which means that - maybe, just maybe - there is a chance that someone will copy the game's design and improve on it. Any chance of improvement is better than no chance of improvement.

So, please get off your high horse and deal with the reality like an adult. Be glad that someone from THQ Nordic is old enough to invest in this remake.

 

[toro]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

What happens if you are wrong?

 

[Herumor]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

What happens if you are wrong?

Then he'll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[toro]

And again, about the "improvements". Nobody managed to improve Gothic in more than 20 years. Even Piranha Bytes themselves - and they tried really hard, making pale copies of the same game again and again, with little to no success. Then this studio, Alkimia Interactive, appears, and suddenly people say that they will definitely succeed. Why? This studio has no experience with making RPG games, especially the good ones. Even more - they tried to foist an abomination called "playable teaser" on us, which showed that they understand absolutely nothing about Gothic. Yes, after the shitstorm from the fans they came up with one of the stupidest explanations ever: "Err... hehe... of course we didn't want to create something like this! We only wanted to provoke the reaction of the community! Hehehe... Of course, believe us!"

Another cretinous take.

They obviously fucked up with the demo but you cannot deny the progress shown with the latest trailer. Or can you?

It's obvious that the devs are extra carefull about what they show publicly. So, perhaps they learned something in the last 5 years!? Just saying.

 

[jaekl]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

What happens if you are wrong?

Impossible. How many bowls of shit are you going to eat hoping that one of them is secretly a bowl of chocolate?

 

[toro]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

What happens if you are wrong?

Impossible. How many bowls of shit are you going to eat hoping that one of them is secretly a bowl of chocolate?

None. But you will definitely get some shit on your face after this remake is released.

 

[jaekl]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

What happens if you are wrong?

Impossible. How many bowls of shit are you going to eat hoping that one of them is secretly a bowl of chocolate?

None. But you will definitely get some shit on your face after this remake is released.

No I won't, if I want to play Gothic I will just download and play it because I own it already. This is completely valueless on multiple levels, not just that it's being made by talentless fools leeching off of the creativity of others.

 

[toro]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

What happens if you are wrong?

Impossible. How many bowls of shit are you going to eat hoping that one of them is secretly a bowl of chocolate?

None. But you will definitely get some shit on your face after this remake is released.

No I won't, if I want to play Gothic I will just download and play it because I own it already. This is completely valueless on multiple levels, not just that it's being made by talentless fools leeching off of the creativity of others.

Nobody - except yourself - is stopping you from playing the originals. You can basically ignore the existence of this remake.

It's worthless to you because you prefer to be a drama queen rather than move on.

Alkimia is an unknown factor. Their talent can only be judged after this remake is released.

Most contemporary devs are so retarded they cannot create original and coherent worlds. In this context leeching a superior work of art is better than nothing.

 

[Maxie]

Every time I played a Gothic game

Aren't there two (2)

 

[jaekl]

nonono, don't you see?? the last 800 shitty remakes that were all somehow worse than the original games were just flukes, this one is gonna be really special and worth the extra $50 to see the story you already saw 10x by now.

What happens if you are wrong?

Impossible. How many bowls of shit are you going to eat hoping that one of them is secretly a bowl of chocolate?

None. But you will definitely get some shit on your face after this remake is released.

No I won't, if I want to play Gothic I will just download and play it because I own it already. This is completely valueless on multiple levels, not just that it's being made by talentless fools leeching off of the creativity of others.

Nobody - except yourself - is stopping you from playing the originals. You can basically ignore the existence of this remake.

It's worthless to you because you prefer to be a drama queen rather than move on.

Alkimia is an unknown factor. Their talent can only be judged after this remake is released.

Most contemporary devs are so retarded they cannot create original and coherent worlds. In this context leeching a superior work of art is better than nothing.

I don't wanna ignore it though, I wanna talk trash about it online for my own personal enjoyment.

Their talent can actually be accurately judged btw. If your only output is simply copying the work of others, then you're what's known as "talentless".