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Incline Heads Will Roll -- AUTHENTIC MEDIEVAL DATING RPG

flushfire

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So is getting drunk the most time-efficient way to rest before the bathhouse? And if so, anyone knows how many drinks it takes before becoming an alcoholic? It's a bit annoying later on to need to reequip a tankard to avoid the stat reductions.
 

thesecret1

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So is getting drunk the most time-efficient way to rest before the bathhouse? And if so, anyone knows how many drinks it takes before becoming an alcoholic? It's a bit annoying later on to need to reequip a tankard to avoid the stat reductions.
I'd say it's rivalled by flagellation, as while that requires more time, it boosts your virtue, carries possibility of raising a random stat with each use, and early game, if your relationship with the physician is high, it's free.
 

flushfire

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So is getting drunk the most time-efficient way to rest before the bathhouse? And if so, anyone knows how many drinks it takes before becoming an alcoholic? It's a bit annoying later on to need to reequip a tankard to avoid the stat reductions.
I'd say it's rivalled by flagellation, as while that requires more time, it boosts your virtue, carries possibility of raising a random stat with each use, and early game, if your relationship with the physician is high, it's free.
I took a look at the game files and drinking restores twice the amount of fatigue mortification does. So 2 stats per drink instead of just 1. If I'm not wrong the chance for mortification to give a random stat is 5%? I don't think they're close. When I looked at my last save before ch3, I had 23 bottles consumed. So around 10 pts difference if I'd used mortification instead, even considering the random bonus. Pretty significant at that point I think.

BTW going to answer my own question in case someone's interested: past 4 bottles is when alcohol addiction kicks in, 5-6 bottles = rep loss, 7 or more = stat loss.
Is craftsmanship worth it?
Yes, although 6 without items is the most I'd train it to with a random character.
 

thesecret1

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I took a look at the game files and drinking restores twice the amount of fatigue mortification does. So 2 stats per drink instead of just 1. If I'm not wrong the chance for mortification to give a random stat is 5%? I don't think they're close. When I looked at my last save before ch3, I had 23 bottles consumed. So around 10 pts difference if I'd used mortification instead, even considering the random bonus. Pretty significant at that point I think.
Depends if you need the virtue and can spare the money for alcohol. There's also the chance that mortification lowers fatigue more than normal, and doesn't trigger that rarely
 

Lhynn

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BTW going to answer my own question in case someone's interested: past 4 bottles is when alcohol addiction kicks in, 5-6 bottles = rep loss, 7 or more = stat loss.
You can use the tankard to prevent those, right?
 

flushfire

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BTW going to answer my own question in case someone's interested: past 4 bottles is when alcohol addiction kicks in, 5-6 bottles = rep loss, 7 or more = stat loss.
You can use the tankard to prevent those, right?
Yes, but they keep happening later in the game when drinking becomes obsolete and you have better trinkets. It's just annoying having to remember to carry and reequip the tankard after chapters.
 

Üstad

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Holy fuck this game has an item that unlocks at level 350. I have around 3000 points, what would be ideal crossbow build, which items I should pick, do you guys go hybrid or pure crossbow? I already unlocked the disc thingy.

Okay so that Dumonts wife is appereantly a satanist, does something change when you see who she is but don't demand questions? I found outrememer boring btw, is there any other path avaible or all roads lead to there? Does the story of kidnapped girl from Heads Will Roll Downfall takes place in this game?
 

Modron

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Goddamn, couldn’t live happily ever after with my
occult waifu Olivia
like in the original HWR. :baka:
Maybe the new dlc will change that: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/687800/view/3945783342601829912
Happily Ever After DLC is out now + Patch 1.09
The first DLC and the biggest patch for HWR: Reforged are out!
Hello, everyone!
We are very happy to announce that the first DLC for Heads Will Roll: Reforged — Happily Ever After — is out and is available for purchase!



The DLC brings a lot of new content including marriages with all the girls, new endings, expanded epilogues, new story events, boss fights, Steam achievements and much, much more! Be sure to check it out!
Complete feature list of the DLC can be viewed on its Steam page.

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Together with the DLC we are also releasing the much anticipated 1.09 patch that brings a ton of bugfixes, reworks and improvements to the game. It is by far the biggest patch the we have done.

I snipped the patch notes, while it's definitely a sizeable update to go along with the dlc it's not the Squad rework patch yet.
 

Zariusz

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I snipped the patch notes, while it's definitely a sizeable update to go along with the dlc it's not the Squad rework patch yet.
Was this Squad rework annouced or mentioned earlier? Because while squad had some use in mercenary chapter, in outremer they felt more like a distraction for enemies rather than actual help, their attacks hit rarely and at some point it was mostly just feints (i dont remember, did heat mechanic also worked on them?), overhaul is really needed. Also i dont like that even when upgraded to have some decent equipment they still look like dirty peasants.
 

Modron

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Expanded and more happy endings, there were a number of them you could reach in the base game.^ I think it had 10 or maybe more endings and a handful of them involved women.
 
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TheKing01

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Liking what I've played thus far. The dating sim-esque stat raising has always been a bit monotonous to me, but I'm willing to compromise since there aren't too many games like this.
 

PsihoKekec

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Expanded and more happy endings, there were a number of them you could reach in the base game.^ I think it had 10 or maybe more endings and a handful of them involved women.

There were 10 endings originally and the proof that the York girl is the best girl is that her ending is the 10/10 ending. Even if she is related to the damn Freya.

The other women you could end up with were the Satanic Karen and the Outremer girl.
 

oscar

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This game is really rather good. Builds upon the Legionary's Life gameplay through but with a steroids injection. Different build varieties that functionally perform differently in combat (and excellent against some foes but struggle against others). Virtue system not just affecting the story but combat too (low virtue giving you access to poisons etc).

I even quite like the writing (especially in Chapter 5 back in England there were some moments that made me laugh) and tone. Just finished the Outremer route what had quite a cool ending (Apocalypse Now vibes).

If anyone reading this wants to try the game out for the love of God get Heads Will Roll: Reforged instead of just Heads Will Roll. It's a clear improvement in every way (and I wouldn't be surprised if the dev has lost some sales from people playing the fairly bare-bones original one instead). And play in HRW mode (where you get more starting points for getting further in runs). It'll take a few runs but eventually you'll end up with a powerful character who can steamroll even the optional fights.
 

Lord_Potato

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Expanded and more happy endings, there were a number of them you could reach in the base game.^ I think it had 10 or maybe more endings and a handful of them involved women.

There were 10 endings originally and the proof that the York girl is the best girl is that her ending is the 10/10 ending. Even if she is related to the damn Freya.

The other women you could end up with were the Satanic Karen and the Outremer girl.
Now there are 11 endings. Today I reached 11th and it's pretty good. You end up without a wife, but as a ruler of a powerful city in Outremer (and probably a harem of Muslim beauties).
 

Lord_Potato

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Ok, so far I got 7 endings out of 11, romanced all girls except for the alchemist one (Anna) and I think I'm done with the game. But I'd love to know what I did not manage to achieve. So, the endings I reached are:

Ending 1 - after the lost Anglo-French war around Cambrai you become a mercenary in Rennes, Bretania. You work hard to secure Olivia's rule, don't mind the fact (or are oblivious to the fact at all) she's a fucking psychopath and a devil worshipper who baths in the blood of virgins. You defeat her enemies, marry her, and become the duke of Rennes. You need low virtue for marriage with Olivia to work, but in all my playthroughs it was low anyway.

Ending 3 - Ending 11 - after the lost Anglo-French war around Cambrai you become a mercenary in Rennes, Bretania. You work hard to secure Olivia's rule, but then find out she's a fucking psychopath and a devil worshipper who baths in the blood of virgins. She jails you with plans for a swift execution, but you manage to escape and after a brief stay in Paris accept the mission from the rich family of de Chantillons - to find the last heir of the house, who got lost on a crusade. You go to Outremer, but never find de Chantillon. You decide to return to Europe and pay the greedy captain 1000 coin for the trip - only to get lost somewhere at sea and never heard from again.

Ending 4 - after the lost Anglo-French war around Cambrai you become a mercenary in Rennes, Bretania. You work hard to secure Olivia's rule, but then find out she's a fucking psychopath and a devil worshipper who baths in the blood of virgins. She jails you with plans for a swift execution, but you manage to escape and after a brief stay in Paris accept the mission from the rich family of de Chantillons - to find the last heir of the house, who got lost on a crusade. You go to Outremer, but never find de Chantillon. However you manage to get into good graces of both governor of the crusader fortress of Damietta, and his daughter, lovely Emma. So instead of coming back to France to report on your failure, you marry her and become the protector of Damietta.

Ending 6 - after the lost Anglo-French war around Cambrai you become a mercenary in Rennes, Bretania. You work hard to secure Olivia's rule, but then find out she's a fucking psychopath and a devil worshipper who baths in the blood of virgins. She jails you with plans for a swift execution, but you manage to escape and after a brief stay in Paris accept the mission from the rich family of de Chantillons - to find the last heir of the house, who got lost on a crusade. You go to Outremer, traverse the desert to Al Mansur, find Renauld de Chantillon stricken with madness and are forced to kill him in a duel, after that, you return to France, earn your reward, and then can marry either Cecilia or Eva or simply continue your mercenary career.

Ending 8 - the Anglo-French war around Cambrai ended in a negotiated retreat. King Edward is dead and his son, Prince Edward, takes you with him to England to claim his rightful throne. However he faces opposition from the nobles gathered around the Lord Cantenbury. You take part in the civil war and when given an offer from Cantenbury, decide not to abandon the Prince's cause. After winning the civil war you decide to retire and King Edwards grants you some land and a title. You may marry Alyssa.

Ending 10 - the Anglo-French war around Cambrai ended in a negotiated retreat. King Edward is dead and his son, Prince Edward, takes you with him to England to claim his rightful throne. However he faces opposition from the nobles gathered around the Lord Cantenbury. You take part in the civil war and when given an offer from Cantenbury, decide not to abandon the Prince's cause. After winning the civil war you decide to stay in King Edward's service and are rewarded with an important title (baron, viscount or count) and large lands. But soon you are called upon again to protect the northern borders of England against the Scottish invasion. In York you get to know Lina the maid and unearth the conspiracy of death worshippers commanded by the man impersonating the mayor. You destroy the conspiracy, stop the Scottish assault on York and sign a peace treaty with the King of the Scots. After that you can marry Lina.

Ending 11 - after the lost Anglo-French war around Cambrai you become a mercenary in Rennes, Bretania. You work hard to secure Olivia's rule, but then find out she's a fucking psychopath and a devil worshipper who baths in the blood of virgins. She jails you with plans for a swift execution, but you manage to escape and after a brief stay in Paris accept the mission from the rich family of de Chantillons - to find the last heir of the house, who got lost on a crusade. You go to Outremer, but never find de Chantillon. Instead embark on a Crusader expedition against a rich Muslim city of Damanhur. You capture it after a long combat with several bosses and become its ruler, set up a dynasty that will last for another 100 years.

So, what did I miss? Never managed to win the war around Cambrai (despite doing everything according to orders, winning all the skirmishes and killing de Roche), did not romance the alchemist girl, didn't join Cantenbury's plotters and didn't see lands beyond Cambrai, Rennes, France, Outremer and England, if there are any. Do the remaining endings offer a satisfying conclusion to our hero's journey?
 
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Lord_Potato

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Depending on where you send Lina, you can also fail to uncover the voodoo in York and go out gloriously dying in the siege alongside the Sergeant.
I sent her to Freya's inn. So I guess sending her beyond the city walls is a bad choice, that leads to one of the endings I never got.
 

Modron

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Ending 4 - after the lost Anglo-French war around Cambrai you become a mercenary in Rennes, Bretania. You work hard to secure Olivia's rule, but then find out she's a fucking psychopath and a devil worshipper who baths in the blood of virgins. She jails you with plans for a swift execution, but you manage to escape and after a brief stay in Paris accept the mission from the rich family of de Chantillons - to find the last heir of the house, who got lost on a crusade. You go to Outremer, but never find de Chantillon. However you manage to get into good graces of both governor of Damietta, and his daughter, lovely Emma. So instead of coming back to France to report on your failure, you marry her and become the protector of Damietta.

Ending 6 - after the lost Anglo-French war around Cambrai you become a mercenary in Rennes, Bretania. You work hard to secure Olivia's rule, but then find out she's a fucking psychopath and a devil worshipper who baths in the blood of virgins. She jails you with plans for a swift execution, but you manage to escape and after a brief stay in Paris accept the mission from the rich family of de Chantillons - to find the last heir of the house, who got lost on a crusade. You go to Outremer, traverse the desert to Al Mansur, find Renauld de Chantillon stricken with madness and are forced to kill him in a duel, after that, you return to France, earn your reward, and then can marry either Cecilia or Eva or simply continue your mercenary career.
If you don't go and find Renauld you also have the option to just return home instead of marrying Emma, I think this is the there and back again one.
 

PsihoKekec

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While it doesn't affect any ending you can
expose and execute Olivia.
 

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