Ho Tu Lo Shu: The book of dragons (Or how I want my CRPGs to be made)

[GuardHei]

Can anyone tell me what the hot tea technique actually does? Because I have absolutely no freaking clue and I tried putting it on 3 different characters already and couldn't tell any difference whatsoever.

Also, I may have reached that fabled 'significant difficulty spike' stage, because the fights are no longer on total autopilot, though they are still pretty easy. Still, getting a lot of them Tale of Wuxia vibes with the gigantic cans of whoopass involving dozens of dudes, like the battle for the Mu House, and that is very gud. Game got a lot less 'draining' (as I put it above) in the last 10 or so hours, I can sink into it quite a bit right now.

Furthermore, after clocking 40 hours in this game, I still chuckle at the way party members drop onto the battlefield at combat start.

Depending on the nodes you have unlocked, the character with the technique equipped will increase its “internal technique” 内功 stat each turn until reaching a maximum of 24. The stat will reset each time entering the battle.
If you’ve unlocked the middle mode, for the first several turns, the increase in stat will doubled. It will clear 4 point of the “freezing” rebuff each turn (don’t really know the English name but it’s the debuff that reduces the number of actions you can take each turn). In short, super powerful technique, and one of the few ways to clear “freezing” in battle.

Btw a better translation of the technique is probably “tea boiling” which means your 内功 is too strong so that you can boil tea with it.

 

[notpl]

Can anyone tell me what the hot tea technique actually does? Because I have absolutely no freaking clue and I tried putting it on 3 different characters already and couldn't tell any difference whatsoever.

Also, I may have reached that fabled 'significant difficulty spike' stage, because the fights are no longer on total autopilot, though they are still pretty easy. Still, getting a lot of them Tale of Wuxia vibes with the gigantic cans of whoopass involving dozens of dudes, like the battle for the Mu House, and that is very gud. Game got a lot less 'draining' (as I put it above) in the last 10 or so hours, I can sink into it quite a bit right now.

Furthermore, after clocking 40 hours in this game, I still chuckle at the way party members drop onto the battlefield at combat start.

It raises your Qi (spiritual strength) each turn, which is itself a modifier over all damage you take and receive.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Sometimes I wish I knew what this game was actually about. The Li Tan questline, for example, is straight up incomprehensible to me

all I know is there are lots of asses I must whoop

 

[notpl]

Finally beat this on the max difficulty. Unfortunately the difficulty curve just isn't balanced very well throughout the game, so the higher difficulties just mean the early game is even harder, but do nothing to prevent you from steamrolling through all the combat later on once your MC is an unstoppable murder machine. I beat the final boss rush in a single turn without anyone but my MC even taking an action thanks to bloody blade.

 

[musouking]

Also Heluo will never make a "proper" wuxia rpg game again. Imagine a prequel to Tale of Wuxia with Wuxia Zi as main character.

They basically lost any right to use derivative to Jin Yong games because of Tencent iirc?

Not Tencent, Heluo are getting fucked by their former publisher Soft-World (AKA. Zhiguan).
https://gnn.gamer.com.tw/detail.php?sn=229644)

 

[notpl]

Also Heluo will never make a "proper" wuxia rpg game again. Imagine a prequel to Tale of Wuxia with Wuxia Zi as main character.

They basically lost any right to use derivative to Jin Yong games because of Tencent iirc?

Not Tencent, Heluo are getting fucked by their former publisher Soft-World (AKA. Zhiguan).
https://gnn.gamer.com.tw/detail.php?sn=229644)

To be fair, what they did was unbelievably stupid. Imagine if the Callisto Protocol guys had made a Dead Space remake - same characters, same music, same visual assets, exact same plot/gameplay, everything - without EA's permission or involvement in any way.

 

[musouking]

What I know is the rumor of the oral contract they made, but

what they did was unbelievably stupid

Agreed.

 

[GuardHei]

Also Heluo will never make a "proper" wuxia rpg game again. Imagine a prequel to Tale of Wuxia with Wuxia Zi as main character.

They basically lost any right to use derivative to Jin Yong games because of Tencent iirc?

Not Tencent, Heluo are getting fucked by their former publisher Soft-World (AKA. Zhiguan).
https://gnn.gamer.com.tw/detail.php?sn=229644)

To be fair, what they did was unbelievably stupid. Imagine if the Callisto Protocol guys had made a Dead Space remake - same characters, same music, same visual assets, exact same plot/gameplay, everything - without EA's permission or involvement in any way.

I mean, ZhiGuan was the regional distributor of the game in Taiwan, so they did have involvement. It was funny how it took ZhiGuan 4 years to "realize" the game they were distributing and making money had copyright issues.
That being said, I agree on you that it was stupid without any paperwork.

 

[musouking]

According to the paperwork in 2015 July 9th&21th they made about music copyright, Heluo can not make ToW promoted and marketed as the sequel, branch plot, side story, extra chapter, etc. of Wulin Heroes and Jin Yong Heroes.
It is a trap from beginning to the end. Xu still jumped in. Maybe he is dumb or simple whatever I hope he continue making good games.

EDIT: I read this thread find out this topic should pass by since you all know about it. My bad.

 

[Zerth]

Stumble across this game is 50% off atm. I might get it, for 7$ seems to be quite the bargain.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Is there a fan translation for this or yall just randomly trying to navigate moon runes? Because on steam english is not supported

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Is there a fan translation for this or yall just randomly trying to navigate moon runes? Because on steam english is not supported

There is a fanTL using edited DeepL in the workshop (Lash)

Game is also built on older unity so XunityAutoTranslator works. If you want to play one of the omegamods they kinda works with XunityAutoTL

 

[Longes]

Fellow martial cultivators, I need your help.
Who are evil companions in the game and how do I recruit them? I know Situ Jing (the sith grandma in the Pretty Dream Pavillion) is a companion and related to the Winery quest. Do I need to do the Winery before solving the brothel murder, or can I do the murder now?
My party is currently Duan Siping, the first village staff dude who's getting kicked the moment I find a recruitable woman, and the poison dude from the northern healer questline. My MC is supposed to be a poison yin build, but mostly I find myself just fisting people as Yin inners are too damn rare. I even had to cultivate some Yang to get the Qi requirements for the few Yin inners I found. I'm running the Blood Demon inner right now which does... something? The translation is unhelpful and just says it gets me covered in blood.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Who are evil companions in the game and how do I recruit them?

I am 100% goody chaotic good two shoes buddy, can't really help you here

 

[Jinn]

Is there a fan translation for this or yall just randomly trying to navigate moon runes? Because on steam english is not supported

While Lash's work is much appreciated, I ultimately found the machine translation inadequate to play through the entire game enjoyably. I get so sick and tired of this being the only way we can play awesome games like this one. If you're going to try it, I wish you the best of luck.

I just wish there was a better option besides learning Chinese.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I just wish there was a better option besides learning Chinese.

Wish that Heluo or decent publisher decides to pick these games up

Or more realistically wish that China is not collapsing before machine TL caught up with Chinese

Japanese improved GREATLY in the past 10 years only for MTL, I would assume Chinese will caught up sooner or later. It is already decent enough albeit very awkward today. In another 3 - 4 years we might see the tool being more advanced

 

[Longes]

Or, you know, Chinese start paying the translators instead of thinking MTL is good enough.

 

[notpl]

Fellow martial cultivators, I need your help.
Who are evil companions in the game and how do I recruit them? I know Situ Jing (the sith grandma in the Pretty Dream Pavillion) is a companion and related to the Winery quest. Do I need to do the Winery before solving the brothel murder, or can I do the murder now?
My party is currently Duan Siping, the first village staff dude who's getting kicked the moment I find a recruitable woman, and the poison dude from the northern healer questline. My MC is supposed to be a poison yin build, but mostly I find myself just fisting people as Yin inners are too damn rare. I even had to cultivate some Yang to get the Qi requirements for the few Yin inners I found. I'm running the Blood Demon inner right now which does... something? The translation is unhelpful and just says it gets me covered in blood.

You have to solve the brothel murder then move on and finish the winery portion of the quest to recruit Situ Jing. Brother Luo (staff companion you get almost immediately) is technically "good" but in practice he approves of everything you do and will follow you on the evil ending path. Ditto for all the waifus. There is also a recruitable evil companion associated with the questline at the apothecary/clinic in the far northwestern portion of the map

There is an evil waifu companion that you will almost certainly miss without a guide, her questline begins at the wudang sect and recruiting her requires you to visit her stealthily at night and attempt to pickpocket her while she's sleeping.

The Blood-Drinking Demon art gives your attacks health-steal. Not especially powerful, the only half-decent use for it is pairing with a counterattack build. You really want to avoid cultivating ANY yang energy if you're making a yin build, since as you've realized yin neigong techniques are rather rare and you will permanently gimp yourself. The ultimate yin poison/fist/blade moves are among the strongest in the game as long as you cultivate correctly. Then again, the game is piss easy even on max difficulty.

 

[Longes]

You have to solve the brothel murder then move on and finish the winery portion of the quest to recruit Situ Jing. Brother Luo (staff companion you get almost immediately) is technically "good" but in practice he approves of everything you do and will follow you on the evil ending path. Ditto for all the waifus. There is also a recruitable evil companion associated with the questline at the apothecary/clinic in the far northwestern portion of the map

Ok, cool, I was putting off the brothel murder because I didn't want to lock myself out. Good to know that I can get the snake book now!
And yeah, I already got the poison baldie from the north. He's pretty funny in his personal quest.

Luo does seem very Chaotic Neutral, but he's kind of the weakest member of my team so he's getting swapped for a waifu the minute I get the chance.

 

[GuardHei]

Heluo just won the lawsuit against ZhiGuan, meaning they don't have to pay for the charge, and Tales of Wuxia can finally change back the original character arts. Though this good news come too late...

 

[Longes]

Heluo just won the lawsuit against ZhiGuan, meaning they don't have to pay for the charge, and Tales of Wuxia can finally change back the original character arts. Though this good news come too late...

Hell yeah!

 

[OracleX]

documentary about Heluo with english subs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfhNS_zzJhA&ab_channel=導演BKGameDocumentaries

 

[n0wh3r3]

so what would be the main appeal for this ?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

so what would be the main appeal for this ?

Well made open world where exploration matters, fun combat, and ton of shits to do

 

[n0wh3r3]

so what would be the main appeal for this ?

Well made open world where exploration matters, fun combat, and ton of shits to do

Thanks! How good is the fan translation?