Hogwarts Legacy - Harry Potter open world action RPG prequel set in the late 1800s

[Tyranicon]

My copey headcannon is that it's rather invoking the power of death itself, instead of just killing someone with force. You could still kill someone with winshartium lesbiosa if you really want to, nothing's stopping you.

Agreed. Probably works like power word kill since once you get hit with it, you mostly just die. No ifs, ands or butts (unless you're a protagonist, Harry).

And I think there is a legit disintegration spell somewhere in HP land.

Spells in Harry Potter are mainly plot devices. They tend to translate poorly to RPGs in terms of tactical use.

And then there are mind boggingly OP stuff like the time-turner and the mind control shit.

I almost want to see a parody take all of Rowling's ideas to their logical conclusion.

It would be a fucking hellscape.

 

[mediocrepoet]

unfortunately i doubt rowling could think of complicated ideas like that.

Clearly, she doesn't think her magic through. She already broke her entire setting by making time travel not only possible, but so easy a child could do it.

Crazy. Sounds like a setting that was made to tell stories to her small children and not for serious analysis by no-lifer middle aged men.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Crazy. Sounds like a setting that was made to tell stories to her small children and not for serious analysis by no-lifer middle aged men.

>you have no life
>hangs around on an rpg forum all day with men he says has no life

 

[Immortal]

Harry Potter is a children's book series with childish nonsensical world-building, what's one more silly thing?

Doesn't matter how throwaway the references are, this is the canon she defined.

Canon and lore matter, but only sometimes.

Sorry, I just don't like this argument of "it's made up anyway". It's basically, "anything is fine, so long as I'm fine with it. now shut up about the things you aren't fine with because I just want to play the game".

I think that if the game had Harry Potter suddenly becoming a Nazi and raping Hermione while shouting select passages from Mein Kampf, you'd probably say that there have been alterations to his character that aren't in line with the books or the setting. And wouldn't buy me saying "it's just a silly kids book anyway who cares teehee".

NEG I usually would agree with you. I don't buy the "Muh Fantasy Setting - I can do anything I waaaant" arguments. But in this case I tend to agree with Roguey..

From the very first book - this world is an inconsistent mess. It's actually not salvageable..
She would need several ret-con sessions to get this thing anywhere near approaching a world canon consistency - I can't take any of it seriously, I have no frame of reference to say anything doesn't fit - nothing fits today.

Look at that MSPaint document Roguey shared. Rowling is unironically a retard. "Oye 'wat iv we 'ad an African School named Ungabungaboo"

This entire setting was a quick buck for a broke britbong from the start. Not worth taking seriously.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Crazy. Sounds like a setting that was made to tell stories to her small children and not for serious analysis by no-lifer middle aged men.

>you have no life
>hangs around on an rpg forum all day with men he says has no life

>is here to call me out for calling him out for posting his angst about children's books
>realizes we are the same... is it love?

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

From the very first book - this world is an inconsistent mess. It's actually not salvageable..

Well, neither is Oblvion/Skyrim, but you know, at least try?

This entire setting was a quick buck for a broke britbong from the start. Not worth taking seriously.

I don't care whether it's Citizen Kane or some dumb kid's book. Suspension of disbelief helps sell the story. The more you throw it out, the more you harm it.

Then again, the audience is brain-baked shitlibs who probably think that Cheddar Man is real. But I simply don't care for Roguey's line of argument in general.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

is here to call me out for calling him out for posting his angst about children's books

I'm only responding to you because you quoted me.

I'm here to troll Roguey, not you. My heart belongs to another.

 

[Immortal]

Well, neither is Oblvion/Skyrim, but you know, at least try?

Yea they tried all right...
"Okay guys.. I've got it.. a solution to the problem of us not having a coherent canon at all.. *~*~Dragon Breaks~*~*"

You don't see that as "adding more silly on silly" ???

I don't care whether it's Citizen Cain or some dumb kid's book. Suspension of disbelief helps sell the story. The more you throw it out, the more you harm it.
Then again, the audience is brain-baked shitlibs who probably think that Cheddar Man is real. But I simply don't care for Roguey's line of argument in general.

My argument isn't "Oh kids are retarded, feed em the slop" - it's more.. the story is a incoherent shit show, so I'm not bothered / offended by more incoherent being added.
My immersion was dead long ago for this setting. I have zero investment in learning or respecting the lore because it doesn't respect itself.

 

[Morenatsu.]

rowling should have made jelly bean obstacle course dungeons canon

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Yea they tried all right...
"Okay guys.. I've got it.. a solution to the problem of us not having a coherent canon at all.. *~*~Dragon Breaks~*~*"

Huh? This is just an idea they came up with to avoid making player choices in previous games irrelevant. Had nothing to do with trying or not trying to maintain verisimilitude in the game itself.

What I'm talking about is the difference between everyone in Skyrim having cellphones, or half the Nords suddenly being black men, and how Skyrim was in general.

You don't see that as "adding more silly on silly" ???

As opposed to what? Just changing everything from game to game and not commenting on it? Ignoring that this was just a device (as I said above) and applying it generally, then there's no standard anyway. "Put cellphones in the next game, who gives a shit?"

My argument isn't "Oh kids are retarded, feed em the slop" - it's more.. the story is a incoherent shit show, so I'm not bothered / offended by more incoherent being added.
My immersion was dead long ago for this setting. I have zero investment in learning or respecting the lore because it doesn't respect itself.

You just made my point. You're arguing to maintain that level of disrespect and increase it, even when you already see it as a negative.

 

[Tyranicon]

God, I wish I had the money and talent to simultaneously troll random forums, twitter, the entirety of steam and reddit, all at the same time.



Thank god my writing sucks so hopefully future generations will, one day, argue why I'm dumb as shit.

 

[Cryomancer]

awful at any type of real-life combat.

Yep. But charms, concealment, potion making(...) this is much more deadly than raw destructive power. Any wizard with invisible cloak could cast imperius curse in a couple of muggles and start an nuclear war. As for combat, only looking into pyromancy. Gubraithian Fire, Fyendfire, Fire Rope which dumbledore used to destroy an army of undead(inferi).

And protego diabolica is literally city bursting. Akin to the Netherese Archwizard magic in D&D and muggle nukes.

 

[Tyranicon]

awful at any type of real-life combat.

Yep. But charms, concealment, potion making(...) this is much more deadly than raw destructive power. Any wizard with invisible cloak could cast imperius curse in a couple of muggles and start an nuclear war. As for combat, only looking into pyromancy. Gubraithian Fire, Fyendfire, Fire Rope which dumbledore used to destroy an army of undead(inferi).

And protego diabolica is literally city bursting. Akin to the Netherese Archwizard magic in D&D and muggle nukes.

Yup, I agree. But as far as we see from the books and movies (correct me if I'm wrong), wizards are bad at fighting and have no concept of any kind of modern military doctrine applied to centuries of magical warfare common sense.

This is because it was written by someone who doesn't care about that, and that's fine.

Like I stated above

And then there are mind boggingly OP stuff like the time-turner and the mind control shit.

I almost want to see a parody take all of Rowling's ideas to their logical conclusion.

It would be a fucking hellscape.

I actually do want to see this. It would be incredible.

 

[Immortal]

My argument isn't "Oh kids are retarded, feed em the slop" - it's more.. the story is a incoherent shit show, so I'm not bothered / offended by more incoherent being added.
My immersion was dead long ago for this setting. I have zero investment in learning or respecting the lore because it doesn't respect itself.

You just made my point. You're arguing to maintain that level of disrespect and increase it, even when you already see it as a negative.

If the team that owns / manages the canon of Harry Potter came out and said "we are gonna fix this shit show"
I would be more amenable to your position.

But they aren't.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

If the team that owns / manages the canon of Harry Potter came out and said "we are gonna fix this shit show"
I would be more amenable to your position.

But they aren't.

So because they don't care, you don't care, and want to play the game even though it's breaking it's own setting.

Sounds like a vicious cycle where everything turns to crap and you keep consuming it.

Which also sounds like the past 20 years of media...

 

[Immortal]

If the team that owns / manages the canon of Harry Potter came out and said "we are gonna fix this shit show"
I would be more amenable to your position.

But they aren't.

So because they don't care, you don't care

Yes.

Which also sounds like the past 20 years of media...

Yes.
Let's talk about 4E for a second if you have time.

 

[Dadd]

Like I stated above

And then there are mind boggingly OP stuff like the time-turner and the mind control shit.

I almost want to see a parody take all of Rowling's ideas to their logical conclusion.

It would be a fucking hellscape.

I actually do want to see this. It would be incredible.

It could be interesting in a Magicka-like game.

 

[S.torch]

Codexers talking about the worldbuilding of books they haven't read.

 

[Jaedar]

What I'm talking about is the difference between everyone in Skyrim having cellphones, or half the Nords suddenly being black men, and how Skyrim was in general.

Or Cyrodiil suddenly being a hilly grassland and not a jungle?

I actually do want to see this. It would be incredible.

I think there are lots of fanfics that take the setting far more seriously in a single chapter than Rowling did for the entire series, but I would guess most of them do it in an attempt to salvage and fix, not parody.

 

[Mauman]

Why don't people just use guns in this story? I never got a good explanation.

Because then you'd have to deal with this kind of situation

Spoiler

And I doubt Rowling has that level of skill.

 

[Zombra]

As far as we see from the books and movies (correct me if I'm wrong), wizards are bad at fighting and have no concept of any kind of modern military doctrine applied to centuries of magical warfare common sense.

I mean, honest question, Hogwart's isn't some kind of paramilitary academy, is it? Is the purpose of the school to train soldiers?

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Or Cyrodiil suddenly being a hilly grassland and not a jungle?

Muh one book in Morrowind.

Regardless, two wrongs don't make a right in storytelling anymore than they do anywhere else.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I mean, honest question, Hogwart's isn't some kind of paramilitary academy, is it? Is the purpose of the school to train soldiers?

No, that would be too interesting. It's magic day care where mage kids go to learn how to be mages who do nothing but be mages and do magic things all day.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Lol, Harry Potter.

 

[Tavar]

So, how does this game actually play like? I have no idea what an action rpg in a Harry Potter setting is supposed to look like. When I hear action RPG, I think of Diablo and that doesn't really work with this setting.