Hogwarts Legacy - Harry Potter open world action RPG prequel set in the late 1800s

[mediocrepoet]

Remember 10 years ago people had to release a free DLC because Mass Effect 3 had 3 bullshit endings, and they had to expand? 10 years later, and no one bats an eye.

I don't recall the marketing for HL hyping up c&c, unlike the ME trilogy which absolutely did. No one expects it so no one cares.

While I agree that nobody with realistic expectations should expect C&C, marketing did not get the memo.

From steam game description:

Your character is a student who holds the key to an ancient secret that threatens to tear the wizarding world apart. Make allies, battle Dark wizards, and ultimately decide the fate of the wizarding world. Your legacy is what you make of it. Live the Unwritten.

I don't think anyone was expecting an actual RPG with C&C in it, whatever flavour text was used in the ad campaign. ME3 shot itself in the foot because not only did it tout C&C and world reactivity, etc. along with character importing, but it was also the culmination in a trilogy that had a lot of fan expectation and weight behind it. It's also significant that those fan expectations were from the previous games, i.e. other entries in the same medium, rather than a conversion.

 

[Roguey]

While I agree that nobody with realistic expectations should expect C&C, marketing did not get the memo.

From steam game description:

Your character is a student who holds the key to an ancient secret that threatens to tear the wizarding world apart. Make allies, battle Dark wizards, and ultimately decide the fate of the wizarding world. Your legacy is what you make of it. Live the Unwritten.

Fact check true: there is a good ending and an evil ending, so you do in fact decide a fate (not that it matters).

 

[Delterius]

It's such a dumb pitch too.

This is a game where grown up kids get to play themselves in wizard school. Why make it about the fate of the world? Make it about their fate and who they end up becoming after wizard school. The fate of the world is already written anyways. This isn't a brand that needs capeshit hype.

 

[just]

gosh darn it that boycott didnt work guys
what now

 

[Tyranicon]

While I agree that nobody with realistic expectations should expect C&C, marketing did not get the memo.

From steam game description:

Your character is a student who holds the key to an ancient secret that threatens to tear the wizarding world apart. Make allies, battle Dark wizards, and ultimately decide the fate of the wizarding world. Your legacy is what you make of it. Live the Unwritten.

Fact check true: there is a good ending and an evil ending, so you do in fact decide a fate (not that it matters).

It's saying something when Elden Ring had better endings than a game, and one of the Elden Ring's ending is literally being a shit lord.

 

[Hobo Elf]

It's such a dumb pitch too.

This is a game where grown up kids get to play themselves in wizard school. Why make it about the fate of the world? Make it about their fate and who they end up becoming after wizard school. The fate of the world is already written anyways. This isn't a brand that needs capeshit hype.

I think that was the original pitch of the game. It was supposed to extend beyond Hogwarts which was supposed to just set you up for your future employment. I guess reality hit them since it would've been too ambitious. Maybe a sequel, then.

 

[mediocrepoet]

It's such a dumb pitch too.

This is a game where grown up kids get to play themselves in wizard school. Why make it about the fate of the world? Make it about their fate and who they end up becoming after wizard school. The fate of the world is already written anyways. This isn't a brand that needs capeshit hype.

I think that was the original pitch of the game. It was supposed to extend beyond Hogwarts which was supposed to just set you up for your future employment. I guess reality hit them since it would've been too ambitious. Maybe a sequel, then.

Even if it was just an epilogue, that'd be pretty cool. Have something about what type of magic you specialized in or were shit at, whether you were benevolent or cruel, etc. I'd probably play that game.

 

[KIss My Ass]

Cyberpunk 2077 is more of a rpg than this game.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Cyberpunk 2077 is more of a rpg than this game.

Yeah but it is repetitive rote where you do literally the same shit after the first 6 hours just with Diablo loot.

This game at least has minigames and exploring stuff actually seems to be worth it rather than copy paste of Cyberpunk.

 

[Jrpgfan]

For those complaining about the lack of gingers in the game:

Take your beta male thirst elsewhere please. STOP linking to these twitch whores and e-thots and giving them clicks. If you want to fap to this fake ginger bitch go do that elsewhere. Your simping & cucking are repulsive to me for even having a link to 'Amouranth' and you should neck yourself at the earliest possible convenience as you are 100% part of the problem and offer society no meaningful value. Here to help, ❤❤.

And here, gentlemen, we have a resetera user.

No, no, he has a point. Degenerate streamers and the like are taking money away from good, honest god-fearing sex workers.

Gentlemen, do the world a favor. Spend your cash on respectable prostitutes, not e-thots.

It doesn't make sense to pay for services if the provider isn't at least willing to actually lend a hand. That's the difference between paying for a service and charity.

This has surely escalated nicely

It has even surpassed my expectations. This place never fails to deliver.

 

[Lambach]

Fact check true: there is a good ending and an evil ending, so you do in fact decide a fate (not that it matters).

The goblins run the banking system of the Wizarding world (and therefore, they run the Wizarding world) during the events of the HP novels, so I'm guessing the evil ending is the canonical one and your character sells out his own Wizard kind for a pile of Shekels or something.

 

[Sarathiour]

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. It feels like you're following your own train of thought that isn't connected with mine and I don't think this is my fault as I made myself clear what I meant in my earlier post.

I'll try to rephrase it again. You acknowledge that there is people that are exerting their influence, you just disagree that this "influence usage" is about mass immigration and cultural war, and dismiss it as a matter of happenstance. I think this is a naïve take on things.

2) I disagree. Money makes the world go round and selling is very important aspect of making money. Activision-Blizzard? It's all about money. Sure, some people are about influence (as it can lead to money), but as far as the gaming industry is concerned I'd argue it's mostly about money. There are better ways to gain influence after all.

Activsion-Blizzard was bought for 69 billions dollars. Just like for rpg, there is threshold where it's not about how much money you can gain, but what can you do with such a tremendous amount. Turns out the answers is rarely "I'm going to build a fort Scrooge McDuck-style". I don't think I will be able to convince you on this, but for me it's clear that there is point where greed alone is not longer the driving factor.

I don't really feel the need to "obfuscate shit". I may be wrong, and I am usually the first one to admit if so, but misleading people is not my kind of thing. It defeats the purpose of having a discussion if it ain't honest.

I did not say that you did that, but I think that it will be again, naïve, to except except the same of everyone when politics and ideology are concerned. Do you really think politic debate are all about arguing in good faith ?

 

[lycanwarrior]

 

[lycanwarrior]

The best thing is if this game was made by Ubisoft, but otherwise exactly the same, 90% of these people would be crying how it's another generic open world Ubisoft game.

I've even heard similar criticisms about Elden Ring and BotW, especially with the asset/monster re-use not only within the game but also from previous Dark Soul games. Not to mention the empty areas, repetition, etc.

This is an issue with open world games in general regardless of who makes them.

 

[ferratilis]

This is an issue with open world games in general unless made by Piranha Bytes.

FTFY

 

[lycanwarrior]

This is an issue with open world games in general unless made by Piranha Bytes.

FTFY

Haven't played their games as of yet, will need to one of these days.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Most open worlds replicate countryside areas, and as such, they are bound to be seen as "empty" by urbanites. One thing I'll give to old Asscreed games is that their cities were always fun to explore, even as walking sims.

 

[deuxhero]

The Uganda which keeps telling you they are superior because they don't need wands.

Could someone actually link me a video where she's indeed presented or present herself as coming from uganda ? Because that would rather funny if it's true.

https://hogwarts-legacy.fandom.com/wiki/Natsai_Onai

Wise, quick-witted, and possessed of a need to seek justice, Natsai grew up in Matabeleland, Africa where she attended Uagadou - the largest wizarding school in the world. She transferred to Hogwarts when her mother became the school's Divination professor and is adapting to her new life in Scotland.

So she's actually from Zimbabwe, unless there's another student that better fits the description. Nevermind, I didn't bother reading the rest of the wiki because I couldn't be assed.

The better question is why Matabeleland, a province that has less than a million people in 2023, has the largest wizard school in the world.

It would be good world building to come up with a reason for that: Something went so horribly wrong at that school people avoided the area or it become a worse place to live. Of course, the alternative and easier explanation is that wizard schools inherently pick isolated areas to avoid muggles wandering in.

 

[Tyranicon]

It would be good world building to come up with a reason for that: Something went so horribly wrong at that school people avoided the area or it become a worse place to live. Of course, the alternative and easier explanation is that wizard schools inherently pick isolated areas to avoid muggles wandering in.

Or that it's only the school to serve the entirety of Africa/Middle East, that would be a logical reason. But... true to Rowling, her organization of wizarding schools is constrained entirely to her very limited imagination. There's one for UK, France, Scandinavia, Russia, USA, and then one per continent for Africa, South America and Asia.

Kek. If one were generous, I'd just assume these were just the most famous institutions.

 

[Sarathiour]

So she's actually from Zimbabwe, unless there's another student that better fits the description. Nevermind, I didn't bother reading the rest of the wiki because I couldn't be assed.

The better question is why Matabeleland, a province that has less than a million people in 2023, has the largest wizard school in the world.

Also Matabaland was part of Rhodesia at this time, and two revolt took place between 1890 and 1900.

Maybe the History was rewritten for muggles, and those civil wars were in reality a bloody slaughter over who was going to be the next board director for "the largest wizard school in the world"

 

[Delterius]

, her organization of wizarding schools is constrained entirely to her very limited imagination

I think half the magic schools are named after google translations of 'magic castle'. Literally the case with the Latino magic school.

and then one per continent for Africa, South America and Asia.

oh nono japan and australia get their own school becaue those are countries jk knows about

 

[deuxhero]

Looking it up, almost all the sources for "China" on the Harry Potter wiki are to video games, mainly mentions on random collectibles ("Dzou Yen is a famous wizard from China"). The ones by Rowling herself are off-hand mentions and a short article called "Quidditch World Cup 1990 - 2014" that is just a collection of sports headlines (bringing me back to the original idea they're mainly there as opposing sports teams). It looks like the one Chinese school is just the only one mentioned by name.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Looking it up, almost all the sources for "China" on the Harry Potter wiki are to video games, mainly mentions on random collectibles ("Dzou Yen is a famous wizard from China"). The ones by Rowling herself are off-hand mentions and a short article called "Quidditch World Cup 1990 - 2014" that is just a collection of sports headlines (bringing me back to the original idea they're mainly there as opposing sports teams). It looks like the one Chinese school is just the only one mentioned by name.

Makes sense. Magic is a bourgeois pastime and socialists don't have any time for that. They'd most likely move to the USA and rob every dumb American out of their living wages by claiming chinese magic "heals your spirit".

 

[Fargus]

Assuming its his real account of course. But anyway... Admin of retardera is a hypocrite who would have thought lol? Following the footsteps of his kike masters: rules for thee but not for me. Even ditched that stronk quirky nigger game from square enix to play an "alt right tranny muder sim".

 

[Hagashager]

Most open worlds replicate countryside areas, and as such, they are bound to be seen as "empty" by urbanites. One thing I'll give to old Asscreed games is that their cities were always fun to explore, even as walking sims.

This is something I don't get.

Why does every square inch of a game world need some bespoke content?

maybe it's because of my upbringing in which I was dragged, begrudgingly, to the great outdoors and made to appreciate nature for its own sake, but part of what I loved about Breadth of the Wild was how much of its world felt like natural wilderness- devoid of necessity for the player.

There was plenty of cut and paste content, having a bit of negative space improved the world, not diminished it.

I'd rather have a pretty vista than be forced to fight the same Watch-Dog monster 21 times (or Hippogryff as the case may be.)

Hell, in the Chamber of Secrets game for PS2 my favorite thing to do was fly around the school and go places you wouldn't expect. There were wizard cards in some of those places, but mostly you flew to the top of Hogwats just to see the game world.