is AI going to ruin video games?

[Norfleet]

In the long run I hope they combine the best of both worlds. The AI generates lots of content, then a human selects the best bits and fixes the deficiencies.

Honestly, this is basically how the creation process works with humans, too. The only difference is that a human creator has an internal filter that stops him from even trying to create things that he deems too shitty so that it doesn't get passed up the chain, due to the higher cost of producing human output, while the AI can shit out prodigious amounts of candidate shit and then a human can, at much lower effort, filter it.

I imagine the next trick will be teaching an AI to identify when something is shit so it can self-filter.

 

[Daemongar]

I think all questions about AI's creating video games, namely rpgs, were solved in 1984 with the C64 release of Adventure Construction Set which allowed players to have the computer pretty much design a game from scratch, complete with name. The player could also take the game as far as they would like such as give the game a name and complete a few rooms, then ACS would take over. The game did not create graphics, upscale existing graphics, etc - though I'll bet they could have done it on the Amiga version released in 1986.

Have things turned to shit since 1984? Yes. Will I lose any sleep over games getting "even shittier" in the future? No, I already have pretty low expectations. If anything, AAA studios will use AI to diminish the need for "creative types" for new games and use AI to add a coat of paint to nostalgia type games for a quick buck, while indie studios will use AI to determine new and creative ways to be pretentious assholes.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

AI generated voice

How does it work? Is it reading it in real-time, or pre-recorded and then put in the game somehow?

i haven't used it myself

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/51872 a link to mod
https://play.ht/ultra-realistic-voices/ author claims he used this

Not a bad tool, but also depends if you are willing to put the effort in.

 

[SlamDunk]

Can't ruin what's already ruined.

 

[Sitra Achara]

In the long run I hope they combine the best of both worlds. The AI generates lots of content, then a human selects the best bits and fixes the deficiencies.

Honestly, this is basically how the creation process works with humans, too. The only difference is that a human creator has an internal filter that stops him from even trying to create things that he deems too shitty so that it doesn't get passed up the chain, due to the higher cost of producing human output, while the AI can shit out prodigious amounts of candidate shit and then a human can, at much lower effort, filter it.

I imagine the next trick will be teaching an AI to identify when something is shit so it can self-filter.

Not really, that's basically a GAN which is old news:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generative_adversarial_network

 

[v1c70r14]

The future of gaming looks bleak. It might not be all that impressive right now compared to actual games, current year games made by "people" aren't even very impressive compared to games from the 1990's to the 2000's. But I'm resurrecting this thread from the dead to remind you that this is still coming to video games, not just in the form of writing scripts for AAA games (would anyone even notice the difference anymore) or upscaling textures of "remasters", adding details that were never there. At some point the full brunt of AI generative models will intersect with and hit video games when they are portable, robust and efficient enough - as well as when hardware specific to this purpose is more developed and mainstream.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

ai is a godsend for videogaming. infinite, improvised, on the fly content to our hearts content, what's to ask more? the problem, as always, is how the rich actually used it: making our lives as miserable as possible. denying crucial loot, lowering our chances and raising opponents', pairing free players against the worst whales in order to humiliate the former and stroke the latter to incite both to spend moar.
"virtua striker" pioneered this, it's in full force and fully automated now, everywhere. games are not anymore meant to entertain, they're meant to mortify.

 

[Morgoth]

AI is the ultimate leveler of human communication: It will accelerate illiteracy across game makers and gamers so equally that nobody will every notice the decline.

 

[HansDampf]

AI is going to ruin everything.

 

[Melcar]

AI is going to make you its bitch.

 

[Kruyurk]

Wow, the previous page still has some rusty posts. Can we train an AI on his posts to get a new rusty please?

 

[Nifft Batuff]

AI will be truly useful when it will be used not to create, but to consume. Creating is a simple and engaging activity for humans, but there is a limit to how much slop you can consume.

 

[Baron Dupek]

You can't ruin something that's already a garbage

 

[Modron]

You can't ruin something that's already a garbage

Oh ye of little faith, things can always get worse.

 

[Morgoth]

You can't ruin something that's already a garbage

Oh ye of little faith, things can always get worse.

Inside your head, the decline always seems bottomless.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

 

[Nifft Batuff]

To be honest, games started to look AI generated, well before AI was a thing.

 

[Nutmeg]

I remember in the 90s eagerly awaiting the day AI would be advanced enough I could play niche games (i.e. with small multiplayer player bases) against human-like AI opponents or allies without the hassle of organizing a game socially.

Little did I know "AI" would instead be used by crapitalists to cheaply produce proleslop in an increasingly endumbened world, even though in retrospect it is so obvious.

 

[Morgoth]

Little did I know "AI" would instead be used by crapitalists to cheaply produce proleslop in an increasingly endumbened world, even though in retrospect it is so obvious.

Yeah. It's much better to have Communist AI policing your life every day.

 

[Tyranicon]

To be honest, games started to look AI generated, well before AI was a thing.

At this point, I'd prefer games made by AI than modern gamedevs. In two years, I won't be able to tell the difference.

 

[tommy heavenly6]

You won't play video games in the future, you will play AI fan fiction:

 

[deuxhero]

I think he's underestimating: There will definitely be two tech demo/proof of concept "games" where all visuals are AI made within a couple years. Well before 10 and likely before 5. I doubt we'll ever see a full on commercial title do it though: There's no reason beyond showing off to make subtitles be AI rendered instead of just calling from a TTF

 

[Gerrard]

You won't play video games in the future, you will play AI fan fiction:

Isn't there a site which collects all the idiotic predictions of "tech gurus"? If not, there should be.

 

[Nutmeg]

I think he's underestimating: There will definitely be two tech demo/proof of concept "games" where all visuals are AI made within a couple years. Well before 10 and likely before 5. I doubt we'll ever see a full on commercial title do it though: There's no reason beyond showing off to make subtitles be AI rendered instead of just calling from a TTF

It already exists:





But it's terribly inefficient and required a game to exist in the first place to be "recorded" into an NN in a sense.