Game News Jagged Alliance 3 announced

[CRD]

JA2 v1.13 isn’t the goal and shouldn’t be. It’s modder autism and has no place in the market.

I’m calling you out CRD suck it.

I don't give a shit about the market, I'm just saying what people who played and kept the name of JA2 alive wanted.

 

[agris]

JA2 v1.13 isn’t the goal and shouldn’t be. It’s modder autism and has no place in the market.

I’m calling you out CRD suck it.

I don't give a shit about the market, I'm just saying what people who played and kept the name of JA2 alive wanted.

They are just trying to milk the name and make a simplified version that you can be sure will be later released in consoles b ecause all the game will have in mind controller and modern audiences.

Die in a fire, us strat gamers don’t want your ill conceived bullshit.

 

[Maggot]

JA2 v1.13 isn’t the goal and shouldn’t be. It’s modder autism and has no place in the market.

I’m calling you out CRD suck it.

I don't give a shit about the market, I'm just saying what people who played and kept the name of JA2 alive wanted.

The Bears Pit is more interested in turning JA2 into some sort of pouch management simulator instead of Commando: the Game. There's a nice wall of text in the source code that outlines why the devs didn't put a massive counterattack at the beginning of the game right after you take Drassen and v1.13 in all its wisdom makes it the default option.

 

[Denim Destroyer]

I can't wait for this to be like nu-xcom where it manages to be mechanically simpler than its two decade old predecessor and also avoid having improvements introduced by other games in the meantime.

 

[Szioul]

From the other thread:

Looks like it might have the nuXCOM HP system.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Tropico was a lot of fun

Haemimont Tropico was good mechanically, but they also cut the heart and soul out of it. Tropico was about the Caribbean during the Cold War, but they made it generic. Jagged Alliance is about the whole subculture of mercenaries and bullshitters pretending to be mercenaries writing in Soldier of Fortune magazine in the 1980s. I don't want to be pessimistic, but this again is something that Bulgarians can't possibly understand no matter how much they mean well. And you really need to have experience with French Canadians to fully appreciate "La Malice".

So my guess is this will turn out to be a competent effort at remaking the game mechanically, but without any of the humor of the real thing.

Actually I would say the opposite, Haemimont will probably get the humor and the fluff, but mechanically will be mediocre and I love most of their games, especially the roman city builders.

 

[deuxhero]

From the other thread:

Looks like it might have the nuXCOM HP system.

How? From the looks of it HP has a number (they go over the marauder's head when hit and the bar goes down when hit). The segments seem to be some kind of wound threshold system where units who have lost more HP take increasing penalties until healed.

 

[SharkClub]

Looks good. Good 'ol Vicki, Ivan, and Fidel seem like they've retained their characters. Hopefully Biff and his MERC org makes an appearance too so I can recruit librarians and drug addicts and give them guns.

If you want to give horrible people guns, the gay pedophile (redundancy) Fidel is confirmed

Spoiler

No. Really. JA1 he says "Fidel no like dis!" if a woman uses the hand on him while males make him say "I see you later, no?", while JA2 has... this.

Sorry I no contact you sooner. They take Fidel's computer. They say the find files of bad pictures. Is not true. I no know how they get there. Right now is good time for job far away. You come to AIM, we talk.

I wonder if they'll actually mention this in the new game

The deepest lore.

 

[Fenix]

Please be alright.

Spoiler

It's gonna be shit, isn't it?

It will be less of JA than it should, maybe it would be playble game in comparison with today's shit we get.
It still won't be real JA3.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I'll wait until a certain someone reviews it on her blog.

 

[Fenix]

If you want to give horrible people guns, the gay pedophile (redundancy) Fidel is confirmed

Spoiler

No. Really. JA1 he says "Fidel no like dis!" if a woman uses the hand on him while males make him say "I see you later, no?", while JA2 has... this.

Sorry I no contact you sooner. They take Fidel's computer. They say the find files of bad pictures. Is not true. I no know how they get there. Right now is good time for job far away. You come to AIM, we talk.

I wonder if they'll actually mention this in the new game

Shieee never noticed that.

From the other thread:

Looks like it might have the nuXCOM HP system.

From this pic alone I can say it would be unpayable just as firaxcom or penis project which tend to waste a lot of player's time with unnecessary camera jumps, which of course double or triple gameplay time, which devs like so much haha.

 

[Black]

WE JUST HAD JAGGED ALLIANCE RAGE
LET IT REST

 

[hiciacit]

From the other thread:

Looks like it might have the nuXCOM HP system.

Right button to aim, left button to ... cancel? I'm ragequiting already.

 

[Thal]

From the other thread:

Looks like it might have the nuXCOM HP system.

Also, the interface is massive decline over JA2s.

 

[Lexx]

I wonder if the icons are based on items in their inventory or if all characters have "skills" now. As we can see in the gameplay, Fidel has a "throw 2 grenades at once"-action, so I'm guessing they all have skills now and all you can change is some basic clothes (maybe) and the weapon (likely)? In any case, already looks seriously dumbed down.

The fact they call it "3" this time and not pretend it to be a (shitty) spin-off gives me the worst feelings, though. It's like the final acknowledgement that we will never see a "real" successor to JA2.

 

[cvv]

Jagged Alliance is about the whole subculture of mercenaries and bullshitters pretending to be mercenaries writing in Soldier of Fortune magazine in the 1980s.

If you say so. As for me, my humble estimate is in this day and age the people who care about good gameplay would VASTLY outnumber the people who care about some 1980s magazine subculture.

 

[deuxhero]

I wonder if the icons are based on items in their inventory or if all characters have "skills" now. As we can see in the gameplay, Fidel has a "throw 2 grenades at once"-action, so I'm guessing they all have skills now and all you can change is some basic clothes (maybe) and the weapon (likely)? In any case, already looks seriously dumbed down.

The fact they call it "3" this time and not pretend it to be a (shitty) spin-off gives me the worst feelings, though. It's like the final acknowledgement that we will never see a "real" successor to JA2.

• Choose from a wide array of special perks to customize your mercs as they level up

You also see Ivan gets free movement (possibly situational) in the gameplay footage as an example of possible skills.

 

[Aemar]

looks like nuxcom with skins, doesn't look like JA2 1.13 much, AP system looks simplified

It's a nuxcom clone self-identifying as Jagged Alliance 3, a random game that gets to be named JA simply because THQ has bought the rights to the franchise. Same scenario as in 'BG3''s case.

 

[Bigg Boss]

BUT IS IT A RPG!?

 

[ArchAngel]

Fuck Yea! Bulgarian overlords here to save all tactical games! First they had a smash hit Phoenix Point that made all UFO fans super happy and saved it from USA imperialists and now they get to do that with JA series!

Spoiler

 

[Burning Bridges]

Ivan
Vicky
Buns

 

[Burning Bridges]

The artwork for the characters look like some chick in Valachia made them for Hobo simulator II

 

[Beowulf]

Ugh, stick to cover and small small engagement ranges ...

On the other hand, there seems to be AP's to use instead of 2 actions system.
If they can make it work on bigger maps with 6 man squads from the start, I might give them my shekels.

I tried recently getting into those Back in Action remakes, but while they did the tacticool in a decent way (with mods), they are soulless and get boring quite quickly.
Only decent JA like game was 7.62 and perhaps Brigade E5, but both titles are buggy and janky even after all the patches and mod fixes.

 

[HeatEXTEND]

lol

 

[cr0mag]

Looks like it actually wants to be faithful to the JA2 theme and it had 14APs in that clip so there is some hope, especially if all the cinematic cameras can be turned off