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So what, we're going with the old, good "Henry got hit on the head and forgot everything, so he start's again as a lvl1 nobody"?
 

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Would it?
Yes, absolutely.
Especially trade-heavy cities in those times were a lot less culturally isolated than people nowadays sometimes seem to think.

Not a US-style melting pot of various ethnicities and cultures all occuptying the same spaces, jobs, etc. of course.
That would be Witcher-series levels of nonsense, applying modern day New York to some medieval scenario.
But instead mostly traders and scholars, who are known to have travelled Europe and recorded their thoughts, bringing them back to their own cultures. Meeting such a person + their attachments wouldn't be crazy at all.
Maybe some Middle Eastern or Asian trader who ended up being stuck in the besieged city? Wouldn't surprise me.

It would be a wonderful chance to have some actually historical diversity and not the Hollywood "message".
 

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Would it?
Yes, absolutely.
Especially trade-heavy cities in those times were a lot less culturally isolated than people nowadays sometimes seem to think.

Not a US-style melting pot of various ethnicities and cultures all occuptying the same spaces, jobs, etc. of course.
That would be Witcher-series levels of nonsense, applying modern day New York to some medieval scenario.
But instead mostly traders and scholars, who are known to have travelled Europe and recorded their thoughts, bringing them back to their own cultures. Meeting such a person + their attachments wouldn't be crazy at all.
Maybe some Middle Eastern or Asian trader who ended up being stuck in the besieged city? Wouldn't surprise me.

It would be a wonderful chance to have some actually historical diversity and not the Hollywood "message".
Yes, for example there could be some Norse visitors in the city, and I know from watching Netflix that most of their Viking ancestors were black women, so diversity would be perfectly historical and expected here.
 

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So what, we're going with the old, good "Henry got hit on the head and forgot everything, so he start's again as a lvl1 nobody"?

Trailer has a sequence of Henry getting super badly injured and nursed back to health. I guess they'll just say he's weak/rusty.
 

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So what, we're going with the old, good "Henry got hit on the head and forgot everything, so he start's again as a lvl1 nobody"?

The obvious solution is to have Henry get blown up while fighting in Normandy and then have Martin Sheen rebuild him from scrap metal for being a bloody icon.
 

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I would have expected the second game to be called Kingdom Come II: Somethingelse, or simply Kingdom Come: Somethingelse.
Vavra is such a fan of the film Deliverance that he couldn't bring himself to drop the subtitle.

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Since kutenberg was a city of silver mine where coin was minted, can we get a DLC about conspiracy of coin clippers, who fund both sides of war with their ill gained wealth and obviously generously donate to the reformation movement? Henry disguised with a black capot, sidelocks glued with horse glue, and fake clay painted nose he will infiltrate the tunnels under the kutenberg where coin clippers plan their world domination.
 

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What's the point of fiction if you aren't creating things that aren't possible in our world?
You'd be surprised of what's possible in our world if you knew more history.
Fantasy game:
You can fight Orcs, Dragons, Slimes, Zombies, Trolls, Elementals, Demons etc.

Historical game:
You fight humans.

Historical games by their very nature have no enemy variety.
 

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I doubt Vavra would allow anything but a historical depiction at the end of the day.
Except for the Cumans in the first game throwing around present-day 21th century insults in present-day Hungarian. As a Hungarian, I found that strangely offputting and comical in equal amounts.

The problem is, they sound like a bunch of drunk football hooligans.
 
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I doubt Vavra would allow anything but a historical depiction at the end of the day.
Except for the Cumans in the first game throwing around present-day 21th century insults in present-day Hungarian. As a Hungarian, I found that strangely offputting and comical in equal amounts.

The problem is, they sound like a bunch of drunk football hooligans.

Definitely wasn't perfect in all ways (I frequently commented that the distribution of plate armour seemed a bit high), but I think they cared a lot overall.

Vavra seems like the type who would blow up and quit if his vision was compromised too much.
 

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What's the point of fiction if you aren't creating things that aren't possible in our world?
You'd be surprised of what's possible in our world if you knew more history.
Fantasy game:
You can fight Orcs, Dragons, Slimes, Zombies, Trolls, Elementals, Demons etc.

Historical game:
You fight humans.

Historical games by their very nature have no enemy variety.
You asked about the point of fiction. Now the goalpost moves to "fighting supernatural creatures".
:hmmm:
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
What's the point of fiction if you aren't creating things that aren't possible in our world?
You'd be surprised of what's possible in our world if you knew more history.
Fantasy game:
You can fight Orcs, Dragons, Slimes, Zombies, Trolls, Elementals, Demons etc.

Historical game:
You fight humans.

Historical games by their very nature have no enemy variety.
One of the best action games ever made - if not THE best - is Sekiro. Vast majority of what you fight in Sekiro are humans.

So you're completely wrong. It's not about enemy variety but combat design that makes a game fun.
 
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Would it?
Yes, absolutely.
Especially trade-heavy cities in those times were a lot less culturally isolated than people nowadays sometimes seem to think.

Not a US-style melting pot of various ethnicities and cultures all occuptying the same spaces, jobs, etc. of course.
That would be Witcher-series levels of nonsense, applying modern day New York to some medieval scenario.
But instead mostly traders and scholars, who are known to have travelled Europe and recorded their thoughts, bringing them back to their own cultures. Meeting such a person + their attachments wouldn't be crazy at all.
Maybe some Middle Eastern or Asian trader who ended up being stuck in the besieged city? Wouldn't surprise me.

It would be a wonderful chance to have some actually historical diversity and not the Hollywood "message".
I have lived most of my life in one of the largest Czech cities and seeing a black person or even an Arab on the street is something that would happen maybe once a year, in the 21st century mind you. So I have my doubts about people in 15th century Bohemia, even in Prague, ever meeting non-whites other than gypsies. Prague is not a Mediterranean port city.

And even the gypsies were seen as subhumans fit to be hunted down.
In 1538, in Moravia, it was stipulated for the first time that ‘Gypsies’ should be ‘eradicated and banished’ and in 1545, Ferdinand I, King of Bohemia, Croatia and Hungary (1526 – 1564) and Holy Roman Emperor (1558 – 1564), issued the first edict for the Czech Kingdom which forbade their very presence. - Roma in the Czech Lands
 

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Inclusivity Pack. Wonder how many people would buy it.
CA tried "daughters of mars", switched to pushing it into base games pretty soon.
So probably not a good idea.
Daughters of Mars is funny, because at the game's time a lot of women actually fought in armies (both on defense and offense), probably most groups had female warriors. Of course it pertained to less professionalized armies, where the overall average combat skills were rather low so women were adequate in these. Some got to even command armies (well, I know Boudicca at least).

So you have most of Europe with women in armies in various amounts, some armies had quite a lot of them.

And of all of possibilities they chose the most professionalized army in Europe which had no women at all and added a bunch of female units so you get to fill equality quota.

Just fucking why.
 

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Would it?
Yes, absolutely.
Especially trade-heavy cities in those times were a lot less culturally isolated than people nowadays sometimes seem to think.

Not a US-style melting pot of various ethnicities and cultures all occuptying the same spaces, jobs, etc. of course.
That would be Witcher-series levels of nonsense, applying modern day New York to some medieval scenario.
But instead mostly traders and scholars, who are known to have travelled Europe and recorded their thoughts, bringing them back to their own cultures. Meeting such a person + their attachments wouldn't be crazy at all.
Maybe some Middle Eastern or Asian trader who ended up being stuck in the besieged city? Wouldn't surprise me.

It would be a wonderful chance to have some actually historical diversity and not the Hollywood "message".
I have lived most of my life in one of the largest Czech cities and seeing a black person or even an Arab on the street is something that would happen maybe once a year, in the 21st century mind you. So I have my doubts about people in 15th century Bohemia, even in Prague, ever meeting non-whites other than gypsies. Prague is not a Mediterranean port city.

And even the gypsies were seen as subhumans fit to be hunted down.
In 1538, in Moravia, it was stipulated for the first time that ‘Gypsies’ should be ‘eradicated and banished’ and in 1545, Ferdinand I, King of Bohemia, Croatia and Hungary (1526 – 1564) and Holy Roman Emperor (1558 – 1564), issued the first edict for the Czech Kingdom which forbade their very presence. - Roma in the Czech Lands
Czech Republic is a great place.
And that beer...
I really have to go there again.
Shame about all that porn though, a lot of czech girls whoring themselves like crazy.
 

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