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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Ryzer

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What review I'm I supposed to trust after so many of them gave Dragon Age Veilguard a good score?
None of them.
https://ragequit.gr/en/reviews/item/dragon-age-the-veilguard-pc-review/

:salute:
That guy knows what's up.

Good job Hellion and I agree it is a disgrace that there are no historical RPGs like KCD other than KCD.
Everyone is busy making up dumb fantasy instead of using much more interesting real world.
Nigga gave it a 66%, he liked the game.
 

Camel

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codex buck broken once again when their diatribes about "go woke, go broke" didn't work and the "woke" game gets 9/10s across the board and a 900 page thread on codex like BG3
guess i might D1P this
I didn't see you in the Veilguard thread, how's that going? And Veilguard started exactly like KCD2, we'll see how it sells.
 

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That jewish merchant actually has a line of dialogue where you ask him how things are and he says "OY VEY, THINGS ARE TERRIBLE", you ask again what is wrong and he says "nothing really, when I say things are fine people ask me for money so I always say that things are terrible".
I guess you got a review copy. Pray tell, does the game allow to be installed with non-English audio and played with English subtitles?
Other questions - is the economy as easy to break as in the first game? Are facial animations of random NPCs improved?
 
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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
What review I'm I supposed to trust after so many of them gave Dragon Age Veilguard a good score?
None of them.
https://ragequit.gr/en/reviews/item/dragon-age-the-veilguard-pc-review/

:salute:
That guy knows what's up.

Good job Hellion and I agree it is a disgrace that there are no historical RPGs like KCD other than KCD.
Everyone is busy making up dumb fantasy instead of using much more interesting real world.
There's the Expeditions trilogy (Conquistador, Viking, Rome). The last two are actually genuinely great.

All purely historical, but they're different experiences - party based and isometric, much less emphasis on immersion, much more combat oriented.
 

Tyranicon

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Expedition: Rome was garbage, featured BIPOC casting and was full of incoherency.
Ahh yes, the typical roman legion and its centurions.

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"I played for 57 hours and I haven't seen anything gay. I've had one guy ask me to go for a drink..."

"I've been round the huge city, and I didn't see a single black person in it, it was all white people saying 'Jesus Christ be praised' "




Game might still be a bag of shite, but at least the woke stuff sounds minimal.


Now, this testimony actually seems legit. I WILL PLAY IT! ...but I will not buy it right away! :smug:
 

Paul_cz

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Hellion

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Shouldn't trust that one either.

It scathingly digs into Veilguard, but still gives it a 66%.

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Bro, it's a 1/10 game. Not only is it bad on its own, but it ruins previous games.

That's the problem with game reviewers, they have to treat everything with kid gloves because they don't want to upset people too much. You can't be a real critic if you are constantly pulling your punches. Strangely enough, the same is true for creatives themselves.

Rating anything with a score lower than 40-50% means that it's fundamentally broken and literally unplayable due to gamebreaking bugs. And Failguard, for all its comically large flaws, is at least technically super-stable. Edgelord scores and attitude like "LOL IT'S SO GAY, I GIVE IT ZERO STARS" are good for some laughs in a forum or for clickbait, but it's not really a sign of a serious reviewer who fully and objectively evaluated the game he was given to review.
 

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Shouldn't trust that one either.

It scathingly digs into Veilguard, but still gives it a 66%.

View attachment 61074

Bro, it's a 1/10 game. Not only is it bad on its own, but it ruins previous games.

That's the problem with game reviewers, they have to treat everything with kid gloves because they don't want to upset people too much. You can't be a real critic if you are constantly pulling your punches. Strangely enough, the same is true for creatives themselves.

Rating anything with a score lower than 40-50% means that it's fundamentally broken and literally unplayable due to gamebreaking bugs. And Failguard, for all its comically large flaws, is at least technically super-stable. Edgelord scores and attitude like "LOL IT'S SO GAY, I GIVE IT ZERO STARS" are good for some laughs in a forum or for clickbait, but it's not really a sign of a serious reviewer who fully and objectively evaluated the game he was given to review.
That's why scores are bullshit. You can't have two thirds of the maximum possible score be responsible for technical stability and the remaining one third responsible for everything else, from writing to production values to game systems. Especially when scoring an RPG with such a system.

BTW the two good youtuber reviews I've seen so far are NeonKnight and Italian Spartacus.
 

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Rating anything with a score lower than 40-50% means that it's fundamentally broken and literally unplayable due to gamebreaking bugs. And Failguard, for all its comically large flaws, is at least technically super-stable. Edgelord scores and attitude like "LOL IT'S SO GAY, I GIVE IT ZERO STARS" are good for some laughs in a forum or for clickbait, but it's not really a sign of a serious reviewer who fully and objectively evaluated the game he was given to review.
-looks at siggy-

If that's your standard of review that's fine, but let's not pretend that everyone has the same thought process and needs a game to brick your system to merit a 1/10. It's hardly edgelord to call a game that is universally derided and possibly kills a famous studio like BioWare a 1/10.

At any rate, 66% is still way too favorable.
 

Hellion

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That jewish merchant actually has a line of dialogue where you ask him how things are and he says "OY VEY, THINGS ARE TERRIBLE", you ask again what is wrong and he says "nothing really, when I say things are fine people ask me for money so I always say that things are terrible".
I guess you got a review copy. Pray tell, does the game allow to be installed with non-English audio and played with English subtitles?

Shouldn't trust that one either.

It scathingly digs into Veilguard, but still gives it a 66%.

View attachment 61074

Bro, it's a 1/10 game. Not only is it bad on its own, but it ruins previous games.

That's the problem with game reviewers, they have to treat everything with kid gloves because they don't want to upset people too much. You can't be a real critic if you are constantly pulling your punches. Strangely enough, the same is true for creatives themselves.

Rating anything with a score lower than 40-50% means that it's fundamentally broken and literally unplayable due to gamebreaking bugs. And Failguard, for all its comically large flaws, is at least technically super-stable. Edgelord scores and attitude like "LOL IT'S SO GAY, I GIVE IT ZERO STARS" are good for some laughs in a forum or for clickbait, but it's not really a sign of a serious reviewer who fully and objectively evaluated the game he was given to review.
That's why scores are bullshit. You can't have two thirds of the maximum possible score be responsible for technical stability and the remaining one third responsible for everything else, from writing to production values to game systems. Especially when scoring an RPG with such a system.

BTW the two good youtuber reviews I've seen so far are NeonKnight and Italian Spartacus.


I agree, scores should be abolished and people shouid be forced to read an entire review to see what each reviewer actually thought about it. Because 99 times out of 100 most people will just read the number in the end and complain because it's too low/high compared to what they think about the game.

In regards to your first question, yes you can download non-english voices and play with subs.
 

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I'm really surprised reviews don't applaud the gay romance option. Maybe the new woke tactic is to keep quiet about such elements. Did they finally grow a brain cell between them, locked within the depths of bluesky threads?
Probably review guidelines didnt allow them to include that. I mean we went from there is a VERY optional gay scene with Hans to you being able to bang a lot of different dudes.
 

Hellion

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I'm really surprised reviews don't applaud the gay romance option. Maybe the new woke tactic is to keep quiet about such elements. Did they finally grow a brain cell between them, locked within the depths of bluesky threads?
Probably review guidelines didnt allow them to include that in their reviews

Not true, this wasn't listed anywhere in the NDA. It's just that the gay romance option is buried in dialogue and needs to be enforced throughout the game in order to trigger (essentially you have to select a "romantic" dialogue option with Hans in chapter 1, which then unlocks similar other options in following chapters and you need to select all of them), which means that most people will never even get the option for this romance unless they actually pursue it from the beginning.
 

Elttharion

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I'm really surprised reviews don't applaud the gay romance option. Maybe the new woke tactic is to keep quiet about such elements. Did they finally grow a brain cell between them, locked within the depths of bluesky threads?
Probably review guidelines didnt allow them to include that in their reviews

Not true, this wasn't listed anywhere in the NDA. It's just that the gay romance option is buried in dialogue and needs to be enforced throughout the game in order to trigger (essentially you have to select a "romantic" dialogue option with Hans in chapter 1, which then unlocks similar other options in following chapters and you need to select all of them), which means that most people will never even get the option for this romance unless they actually pursue it from the beginning.
The IGN reviewer said he banged several different dudes and there were a lot of gay romance options. Is that true? Sounds like something pretty major to me.
Multiple gay romances, including with a major story character
I'm a true disaster bisexual and I banged multiple people of both genders on purpose
 

Hellion

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I'm really surprised reviews don't applaud the gay romance option. Maybe the new woke tactic is to keep quiet about such elements. Did they finally grow a brain cell between them, locked within the depths of bluesky threads?
Probably review guidelines didnt allow them to include that in their reviews

Not true, this wasn't listed anywhere in the NDA. It's just that the gay romance option is buried in dialogue and needs to be enforced throughout the game in order to trigger (essentially you have to select a "romantic" dialogue option with Hans in chapter 1, which then unlocks similar other options in following chapters and you need to select all of them), which means that most people will never even get the option for this romance unless they actually pursue it from the beginning.
The IGN reviewer said he banged several different dudes and there were a lot of gay romance options. Is that true? Sounds like something pretty major to me.
Multiple gay romances, including with a major story character
I'm a true disaster bisexual and I banged multiple people of both genders on purpose


lol I never encountered any of that, my Henry only banged chicks. Maybe if you select the initial gay option it unlocks other such options further down the line?
 

Jinn

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So the IGN reviewer was trying extra hard to be gay from the outset. He was min-maxing gay. And maybe he found every option for it? Because that was his main concern?

So I don't know. It's pretty easy to not roleplay gay if you're straight. So if you're worried about it and are going to actually play the game, try not being gay?
 

Paul_cz

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Not true, this wasn't listed anywhere in the NDA
Do you write your reviews in greek and then translate it manually to english? How does your website work? Just curious.
And what hardware did you play on, how did it run, what settings etc?
And I assume Kuttenberg is more impressive than Novigrad.

Also, I love that shade being thrown at Bioware by Avellone. His post-accusation arc is satisfying. He should move to Prague and join Warhorse.
 

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Surely not so easily?
On some days about 90% of what I post is exaggerated for laughs, irony, or trolling. Hardly anyone gets it, I suppose everyone here expects everyone else is really simple, expectations are low. :lol:
 

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