Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

[jackofshadows]

Found a kike camp while looking for dragon bones, ran by some uppity cunt. She proceeds to call Henry "barely literate donkey", then Henry retorts that he spent time in monastery so she proceeds to insults the monks too and say how her grandfather kabbalist is much superior to them. Of course not a single dialogue choice given to insult her back or tell her to shut up. Because this is all realistic medieval stuff and Henry is you. Well fuck it, at least they weren't unkillable. Good riddance.

I pity zoomers who see that and think THAT'S OKAY. Not being raised on some optional retorts from Arcanum as "I'd prefer to watch your life bleed from your ugly corpse!" is sad.

 

[PlayerEmers]

volumetric fog

https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance2/mods/444

Found a mod that removes the fog I mentioned early. Really disliked the fog in the game for the most part.

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[processdaemon]

Still enjoying the game, there are a lot of little things here and there that make it stand out despite the main quest taking a nosedive in quality (got the ending screen where you kill Sigismund at the Kuttenberg Council and prevent the Hussite wars, which was pretty funny), but things are starting to get more buggy now around 2/3 through the game.

Most stuff is pretty minor, like NPCs floating and graphical glitches, but I had one quest where I had to reload a bunch to get the last fight to trigger, and another where some NPCs asked me to kill people only to immediately turn on me after, forcing me to surrender to them and pretend not to have committed the murder that they'd asked me to commit before striking up conversation again to tell them that I had, in fact, committed the murder as asked to complete the quest. If it gets much worse I may shelve it for a bit as it's going to drive me mad if I hit something gamebreaking in a main quest.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I got to the quest involving Musa and I got to check his backstory and Vavra's self-lauded very well thought-out means to include Musa in the story. I was really interested what Vavra has come up with because a man from Mali in Bohemia seems inexplicable by any means. And, it's bad. I can't say I'm surprised at how bad it is, but it's really quite lazy.

Musa says he was useful to Bayazid, because at the time he was receiving envoys from "all over the world", "But soon after, we found ourselves at war with Timur and his golden horde". It's spelled with small letters, yes.
There are two problems here. For Musa to use the name "golden horde" is anachronistic for 1403, for one thing. For another, and more importantly, Musa is confusing the Golden Horde with the Timurid Empire, whose founder Tamerlane actually defeated his contemporary khan of the Golden Horde in a series of campaigns between 1386-1395. At least the minimum proof reading should have caught that.

Musa describes his decision to ask to be sent to Sigismund's court as means to free himself of Beyazid's court before what he saw as an inevitable fall of the Ottoman state in its war with Tamerlane (or the "Golden Horde" as Musa calls it). As he says himself "I did not want to wait for Timur's savages to cut my head off". Since the direct war between Tamerlane and Beyazid erupted in 1400, that is the earliest time when Musa could have asked to leave Beyazid's court. Still, he must have been a very keen strategist, or deeply pessimistic about Beyazid's chances, in order to look for refuge in Hungary this early. Beyazid was at the height of his power, having received the title Sultan of Anatolia a couple of years prior.

Musa managed to persuade Bayezid to send him to Hungary with Sigismund's messenger as a "goodwill gesture". As I wrote earlier in this thread, there is no evidence that Beyazid and Sigismund have ever been in contact, and the closest they ever were to each other was at the battle of Nicopolis. That Beyazid would make gestures of good will after mass executing prisoners from Nicopolis, selling others into slavery, and ransoming those who were worth most, is very unlikely.

"It was around then" - Musa says, so this must be some time between 1400 and the battle of Ankara, on 20th July 1402 - "that Sigismund's messenger came to see the sultan". Four years after Nicopolis, Sigismund sends a messenger to Beyazid? What on Earth for? There were no diplomatic relations between the Ottoman state and any Christian states, and there would not be for decades on.

"But let us say king Sigismund did not show me the respect that my position is worthy of". A bit vague, because what was his position? "Instead of making me his counsellor and physician he sent me here!"

Like I wrote all those pages back, in the pre-release thread, explaining Musa in Alexandria or Anatolia, or even in Adrianople is relatively easy, but explaining Musa in Bohemia is very, very difficult. But I can't say there was much effort put in it anyway.

 

[Multidirectional]

Valid. That pisses me too.

Vavra's "Henry is you" will come to bite his ass again and again.

Obviously "Henry is you" only if you want to take it up the ass. Otherwise DON'T BUY THE GAME nazi bigot.

 

[jackofshadows]

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On one hand, I can appreciate something like that (apologies, don't have the 'autistic' button). On the other, it's one word too many to confirm what's obvious from the get go. There wasn't any ulterior motive to insert such character other than one we all know too well.

 

[BobTheWizardFromWichita]

I fully expect for 75% goy Daniel Vavra to rectify his mistakes and pay indulgence for his sins in DLC Mysteria Ecclesiae. All missing Church interiors alongside liturgy mechanic should be introduced. We will see, who knows what rabbit he'll pull out of his Judenhut next

Wall, while I am glad you seemed to have finally found the correct dosage of lithium to level out your serbian tendancies, at least when you post here, I will always cherish the days long death threats from when you fell off your meds.

 

[thesecret1]

I got to the quest involving Musa and I got to check his backstory and Vavra's self-lauded very well thought-out means to include Musa in the story. I was really interested what Vavra has come up with because a man from Mali in Bohemia seems inexplicable by any means. And, it's bad. I can't say I'm surprised at how bad it is, but it's really quite lazy.

Musa says he was useful to Bayazid, because at the time he was receiving envoys from "all over the world", "But soon after, we found ourselves at war with Timur and his golden horde". It's spelled with small letters, yes.
There are two problems here. For Musa to use the name "golden horde" is anachronistic for 1403, for one thing. For another, and more importantly, Musa is confusing the Golden Horde with the Timurid Empire, whose founder Tamerlane actually defeated his contemporary khan of the Golden Horde in a series of campaigns between 1386-1395. At least the minimum proof reading should have caught that.

Musa describes his decision to ask to be sent to Sigismund's court as means to free himself of Beyazid's court before what he saw as an inevitable fall of the Ottoman state in its war with Tamerlane (or the "Golden Horde" as Musa calls it). As he says himself "I did not want to wait for Timur's savages to cut my head off". Since the direct war between Tamerlane and Beyazid erupted in 1400, that is the earliest time when Musa could have asked to leave Beyazid's court. Still, he must have been a very keen strategist, or deeply pessimistic about Beyazid's chances, in order to look for refuge in Hungary this early. Beyazid was at the height of his power, having received the title Sultan of Anatolia a couple of years prior.

Musa managed to persuade Bayezid to send him to Hungary with Sigismund's messenger as a "goodwill gesture". As I wrote earlier in this thread, there is no evidence that Beyazid and Sigismund have ever been in contact, and the closest they ever were to each other was at the battle of Nicopolis. That Beyazid would make gestures of good will after mass executing prisoners of the Nicopolis, selling others into slavery, and ransoming those who were worth most, is very unlikely.

"It was around then" - Musa says, so this must be some time between 1400 and the battle of Ankara, on 20th July 1402 - "that Sigismund's messenger came to see the sultan". Four years after Nicopolis, Sigismund sends a messenger to Beyazid? What on Earth for? There were no diplomatic relations between the Ottoman state and any Christian states, and there would be for decades on.

"But let us say king Sigismund did not show me the respect that my position is worthy of". A bit vague, because what was his position? "Instead of making me his counsellor and physician he sent me here!"

Like I wrote all those pages back, in the pre-release thread, explaining Musa in Alexandria or Anatolia, or even in Adrianople is relatively easy, but explaining Musa in Bohemia is very, very difficult. But I can't say there was much effort put in it anyway.

Confusing the Timurids with the Golden Horde. Holy shit. The rest is low effort nonsense.

It really makes me question Vavra's claims about it being his own idea, because if so, why is Musa such a low effort shitter? A Mary Sue whose backstory is on par with fanfiction, and contains obvious historical errors that ought to be caught during revision? It's as if he just chucked him there and delegated everything connected to Musa to someone else, which seems very strange for a character that Vavra allegedly personally insisted on

 

[Basshead]

Average Czech woman:

This is what Vavra finds attractive.

This is what you find attractive

Well we can see the average roguey rating spammers are Frank Capocoli, prk and Gerrard. Not surprising that those who go by gender pronouns with identify crises run to roguey to defense. The only irony lost on you is that you're poking fun of an attractive woman with a great figure while you yourself claim that actual troons are more attractive. Just because you like men means that Katherine is no good? Because she doesn't have a sweaty ballsack? Don't you have enough games to satisfy you fags? You have to bitch about good games too and try to ruin them for others who aren't capable of forming opinions for themselves. You're not the target demographic whom Katherine is designed to appeal too - namely men that enjoy sex with women. This is like bizarro world. By the way Roguey you would probably pay money for that Czech actresses bath water, or even her attention for a second.I don't even want to know what Fran capocoli would do to such a woman. Some things are best left unsaid and even better unthought .

 

[NecroLord]

I got to the quest involving Musa and I got to check his backstory and Vavra's self-lauded very well thought-out means to include Musa in the story. I was really interested what Vavra has come up with because a man from Mali in Bohemia seems inexplicable by any means. And, it's bad. I can't say I'm surprised at how bad it is, but it's really quite lazy.

Musa says he was useful to Bayazid, because at the time he was receiving envoys from "all over the world", "But soon after, we found ourselves at war with Timur and his golden horde". It's spelled with small letters, yes.
There are two problems here. For Musa to use the name "golden horde" is anachronistic for 1403, for one thing. For another, and more importantly, Musa is confusing the Golden Horde with the Timurid Empire, whose founder Tamerlane actually defeated his contemporary khan of the Golden Horde in a series of campaigns between 1386-1395. At least the minimum proof reading should have caught that.

Musa describes his decision to ask to be sent to Sigismund's court as means to free himself of Beyazid's court before what he saw as an inevitable fall of the Ottoman state in its war with Tamerlane (or the "Golden Horde" as Musa calls it). As he says himself "I did not want to wait for Timur's savages to cut my head off". Since the direct war between Tamerlane and Beyazid erupted in 1400, that is the earliest time when Musa could have asked to leave Beyazid's court. Still, he must have been a very keen strategist, or deeply pessimistic about Beyazid's chances, in order to look for refuge in Hungary this early. Beyazid was at the height of his power, having received the title Sultan of Anatolia a couple of years prior.

Musa managed to persuade Bayezid to send him to Hungary with Sigismund's messenger as a "goodwill gesture". As I wrote earlier in this thread, there is no evidence that Beyazid and Sigismund have ever been in contact, and the closest they ever were to each other was at the battle of Nicopolis. That Beyazid would make gestures of good will after mass executing prisoners of the Nicopolis, selling others into slavery, and ransoming those who were worth most, is very unlikely.

"It was around then" - Musa says, so this must be some time between 1400 and the battle of Ankara, on 20th July 1402 - "that Sigismund's messenger came to see the sultan". Four years after Nicopolis, Sigismund sends a messenger to Beyazid? What on Earth for? There were no diplomatic relations between the Ottoman state and any Christian states, and there would be for decades on.

"But let us say king Sigismund did not show me the respect that my position is worthy of". A bit vague, because what was his position? "Instead of making me his counsellor and physician he sent me here!"

Like I wrote all those pages back, in the pre-release thread, explaining Musa in Alexandria or Anatolia, or even in Adrianople is relatively easy, but explaining Musa in Bohemia is very, very difficult. But I can't say there was much effort put in it anyway.

The "historical" part of KCD 2 is clearly just for show.
There is barely anything truly historically accurate.
Oh and that's not even getting into Musa's existence and the absolutely fake jewish quarter and fake pogrom against them.
Vavra just went for the adventure, merry boozing and whoring type of story.

 

[Roguey]

You're not the target demographic whom Katherine is designed to appeal too - namely men that enjoy sex with women.

Enjoy your vulgar single mother.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Roguey has no idea about the game as he isn't playing it.

The scene in the youtube clip shows Katherine pretending to have slept with a character. She does that in order to catch the attention of citizens of Kuttenberg, and slander that character's reputation.

 

[Axel_am]

92% on Steam 21 days after release. Guess there is more to the game than gay nigger sex.

 

[lukaszek]

i can no longer limit framerate it seems

 

[processdaemon]

92% on Steam 21 days after release. Guess there is more to the game than gay nigger sex.

The first 60-70% of the game is really fun, some of the characters and quests are great and Henry's a likeable protagonist, although a bit too set in stone for my tastes. It's not a contender for one of my favourite games of all time but unless it *really* takes a nosedive before I finish it's one of the most solid games from the last few years. It's starting to drag a bit as it goes on but I put over 80 hours into it before I started feeling that way so even if it doesn't peak again that's still pretty good bang for your buck.

 

[AwesomeButton]

i can no longer limit framerate it seems

How come you can't? 1. Turning on Vsync from the game options. 2. Forcing Vsync for this game through your videocard's Control Panel applet, i.e. driver settings. 3. Setting your display refresh rate. All of these limit the framerate.

 

[Wasteland]

i can no longer limit framerate it seems

How come you can't? 1. Turning on Vsync from the game options. 2. Forcing Vsync for this game through your videocard's Control Panel applet, i.e. driver settings. 3. Setting your display refresh rate. All of these limit the framerate.

RTSS if on Windows. Mangohud if on Linux. These are the best options in the absence of an in-game FPS limiter. Vsync's ok, frequently even advisable, but if you have VRR and want to avoid a latency penalty, then you generally want to cap your framerate at just below the monitor's max refresh rate.

There's basically no game where you don't have the ability, in principle, to limit the framerate. I almost always run with an FPS cap, usually pretty low, simply because i have a habit of leaving games on while I'm afk and I like to save power.

 

[lukaszek]

i can no longer limit framerate it seems

How come you can't? 1. Turning on Vsync from the game options. 2. Forcing Vsync for this game through your videocard's Control Panel applet, i.e. driver settings. 3. Setting your display refresh rate. All of these limit the framerate.

i know, it was allowing me to save but was silently coming back to 144. Anyway it works again in the morning... just weird

 

[AwesomeButton]

92% on Steam 21 days after release. Guess there is more to the game than gay nigger sex.

The first 60-70% of the game is really fun, some of the characters and quests are great and Henry's a likeable protagonist, although a bit too set in stone for my tastes. It's not a contender for one of my favourite games of all time but unless it *really* takes a nosedive before I finish it's one of the most solid games from the last few years. It's starting to drag a bit as it goes on but I put over 80 hours into it before I started feeling that way so even if it doesn't peak again that's still pretty good bang for your buck.

My main nitpick is the lack of editor presence in the main story. I can picture how Vavra just got his hands on a huge budget, and crammed every last thing he thought would be cool, without much consideration about what this or that subplot adds to the story. I call it a nitpick because in a landscape filled with shit like Avowid and Failguard, I realise it's quite pretentious to seriously complain about such a thing or downrate the game because of it.

As an example of "cramming every last thing he thought would be cool" I can point to the abundance of stylistical borrowings, which don't quite match, but are in the game anyway. There are Tarantino-inspired moments, which is quite ironic for me. When I was 14 I played "Grand Theft Auto" which was full of lighthearted Tarantino references, and today I'm playing a high budget cinematic RPG, and it still has Tarantino references Then there are characters which I would call "influenced" by Guy Ritchie or Ocean's 11/12/13 movies.

Towards the end the plot logic shows some cracks, with the writing forcing characters into making illogical decisions, just for shock value or to achieve a "gotcha moment" for the player. It's hard to be more specific without spoiling it.

 

[Quillon]

It's starting to drag a bit as it goes on

imo the uninspired side quests in kuttenberg is the reason it feels that way otherwise I found the main story too short, just couple of key events and its over, KCD1 main story felt much longer to me.

 

[Basshead]

Roguey has no idea about the game as he isn't playing it.

The scene in the youtube clip shows Katherine pretending to have slept with a character. She does that in order to catch the attention of citizens of Kuttenberg, and slander that character's reputation.

Why let truth get in the way of rougeys lies

 

[Roguey]

Roguey has no idea about the game as he isn't playing it.

The scene in the youtube clip shows Katherine pretending to have slept with a character. She does that in order to catch the attention of citizens of Kuttenberg, and slander that character's reputation.

Why let truth get in the way of rougeys lies

"It's okay for her to be so vulgar in public because she's a liar."

Coping/simping.

 

[lukaszek]

Roguey has no idea about the game as he isn't playing it.

The scene in the youtube clip shows Katherine pretending to have slept with a character. She does that in order to catch the attention of citizens of Kuttenberg, and slander that character's reputation.

Why let truth get in the way of rougeys lies

"It's okay for her to be so vulgar in public because she's a liar."

Coping/simping.

roguey based character visited katherine chambers following night

 

[NecroLord]

You're not the target demographic whom Katherine is designed to appeal too - namely men that enjoy sex with women.

Enjoy your vulgar single mother.

Actually

Spoiler

Katherine was raped by soldiers of Sigismund while her husband and child were killed. Zizka says they found her on the side of a road holding a dead baby.

 

[kain30]

well, I´ve just finished the game. I have liked it a lot BUT the main quest was a slog, fulll of winks to modern films and too many jokes and stupid moments. I think vavra should have been a movie director instead of a game developer... there´s too many cutscenes and too long!. Sometimes i thought that Kojima was the director of the game HAHAHAH!