KickStarter Knights of the Chalice 2 Thread - Augury of Chaos

[Mortmal]

Still gotta play Gandalf's mod, but yeah, for the price of a game you're getting three modules, and Hearkenwold is up to par with the best of the GB era.

I agree that his fixation with the horrendous 3d models is stupid.

It's Baldur's Gate 2 inspired, as I understand. Same story with AI voice overs, I persume.

The worst part is how fixated he is also in including AI backgrounds and music, neither good in the slightest.
I believe if he factored the amount of hours he spends generating and fixing ugly shit, and instead used those to work, he would be able to pay an actual artist to produce something decent, or at the very least get someone with a modicum of taste to buy and assemble assets for him.

tbh I can't blame it on him, it seems to be an entirely French thing. They're always doing weird shit like calculating if they'll save 2 cents more by working from home vs driving to the office and using the company's electricity and then blow their entire salary eating every meal in McDonald's.

It's not a French thing, it's just him. My guess is that he didn't simply replace the abominable tokens with better ones because he didn't want to bruise a friend's ego. So instead, he switched to 3D. But what’s really infuriating is that some of us paid for three adventure packs, and he’s wasting time fooling around with experiments , remaking the base game while we’ve paid and received nothing. So I’m about to say, if you can't afford it, just feel free to pirate it. I've already paid far more than the price of one copy, and I'm not getting the product delivered.

 

[luj1]

The true reason to get KotC2 is not Augury of Chaos and associated Pierresploitation.

It's Hearkenwold.

how long is it, shill me

Playthroughs seem to range from 30 to 50 hours. But it's open-ended and also takes a more oldschool approach with a focus on nonlinear exploration.

It plays like a Gold Box era CRPG

In other words it's almost therapeutic

 

[the mole]

Still gotta play Gandalf's mod, but yeah, for the price of a game you're getting three modules, and Hearkenwold is up to par with the best of the GB era.

I agree that his fixation with the horrendous 3d models is stupid.

It's Baldur's Gate 2 inspired, as I understand. Same story with AI voice overs, I persume.

The worst part is how fixated he is also in including AI backgrounds and music, neither good in the slightest.
I believe if he factored the amount of hours he spends generating and fixing ugly shit, and instead used those to work, he would be able to pay an actual artist to produce something decent, or at the very least get someone with a modicum of taste to buy and assemble assets for him.

tbh I can't blame it on him, it seems to be an entirely French thing. They're always doing weird shit like calculating if they'll save 2 cents more by working from home vs driving to the office and using the company's electricity and then blow their entire salary eating every meal in McDonald's.

so there are 3 good modules

out of the steam reviews I saw people say there was only 1 good fan module

I'm assuming you're saying that currently the base game is good and there are 2 modules that are basically full games that are also good made by fans

 

[AdolfSatan]

It's not a French thing, it's just him.

I've travelled and lived abroad, and been here for three years. Apart from some hand-picked exceptions I could make, The French are the biggest radins I've ever known bar none.

Can empathize with your frustrations about the modules, I only backed for one because I didn't trust him to deliver on the others any time soon.

 

[Mortmal]

It's not a French thing, it's just him.

I've travelled and lived abroad, and been here for three years. Apart from some hand-picked exceptions I could make, The French are the biggest radins I've ever known bar none.

Can empathize with your frustrations about the modules, I only backed for one because I didn't trust him to deliver on the others any time soon.

Well, maybe it's because we earn less compared to other developed countries, pay double for things like fuel, and are heavily taxed. With the current level of deindustrialization, someday people in Poland might be better off than us.

 

[KainenMorden]

I think it's tough for many codexers to understand that the types of games we enjoy just will never be that popular or that profitable.

lolwot
nigga, just look at codex goty. codex is not some monocled niche community. it's mainstream shithole with occasional "nigger!" posts.

Certainly the codex is over run by popamolists/fans of more casual games but also is home to many gentlemen of more distinguished taste.

 

[Gandalf]

so there are 3 good modules

No, only 2. The one I've made is more like a RPG-like than a proper cRPG. It has poor handmade backgrounds and music, and few of prosperian references. The only quality in there is maybe a couple (more than 1, I think) of combat encounters [nerfed of course, because P***** proposed to me to nerf the module and make it casual friendly, as I understand ( I admit, it was too hard in many places, but now is pretty much cakewalk if one pay attention)]. It also has a quest to collect over 100 stones just to mock fetch quest in games as well as some other stuff I already forgot about.

 

[Reinhardt]

Certainly the codex is over

das rite

 

[Bastardchops]

Still gotta play Gandalf's mod, but yeah, for the price of a game you're getting three modules, and Hearkenwold is up to par with the best of the GB era.

I agree that his fixation with the horrendous 3d models is stupid.

It's Baldur's Gate 2 inspired, as I understand. Same story with AI voice overs, I persume.

The worst part is how fixated he is also in including AI backgrounds and music, neither good in the slightest.
I believe if he factored the amount of hours he spends generating and fixing ugly shit, and instead used those to work, he would be able to pay an actual artist to produce something decent, or at the very least get someone with a modicum of taste to buy and assemble assets for him.

tbh I can't blame it on him, it seems to be an entirely French thing. They're always doing weird shit like calculating if they'll save 2 cents more by working from home vs driving to the office and using the company's electricity and then blow their entire salary eating every meal in McDonald's.

so there are 3 good modules

out of the steam reviews I saw people say there was only 1 good fan module

I'm assuming you're saying that currently the base game is good and there are 2 modules that are basically full games that are also good made by fans

Aside from Augury of Chaos there are two more modules planned, made by Pierre.

 

[jakkis]

Still gotta play Gandalf's mod, but yeah, for the price of a game you're getting three modules, and Hearkenwold is up to par with the best of the GB era.

I agree that his fixation with the horrendous 3d models is stupid.

It's Baldur's Gate 2 inspired, as I understand. Same story with AI voice overs, I persume.

The worst part is how fixated he is also in including AI backgrounds and music, neither good in the slightest.
I believe if he factored the amount of hours he spends generating and fixing ugly shit, and instead used those to work, he would be able to pay an actual artist to produce something decent, or at the very least get someone with a modicum of taste to buy and assemble assets for him.

tbh I can't blame it on him, it seems to be an entirely French thing. They're always doing weird shit like calculating if they'll save 2 cents more by working from home vs driving to the office and using the company's electricity and then blow their entire salary eating every meal in McDonald's.

so there are 3 good modules

out of the steam reviews I saw people say there was only 1 good fan module

I'm assuming you're saying that currently the base game is good and there are 2 modules that are basically full games that are also good made by fans

Never go full retard!

It's a combat-centric arrpeegee with full party creation. You gonna play that shit once and fuggeddaboutit, or replay it to death with different party compositions? A campaign with 20-30 hours of quality though out content is much much more preferable here that 100h+ of copy-paste filler trash combat.

Plus other modules.

That said, I'm not buying it at that price. Travelling with the family, those costs seem to have doubled over the past 10 years. Have had to tighten the belt already, we're down to just two streaming services at the moment!

 

[the mole]

Still gotta play Gandalf's mod, but yeah, for the price of a game you're getting three modules, and Hearkenwold is up to par with the best of the GB era.

I agree that his fixation with the horrendous 3d models is stupid.

It's Baldur's Gate 2 inspired, as I understand. Same story with AI voice overs, I persume.

The worst part is how fixated he is also in including AI backgrounds and music, neither good in the slightest.
I believe if he factored the amount of hours he spends generating and fixing ugly shit, and instead used those to work, he would be able to pay an actual artist to produce something decent, or at the very least get someone with a modicum of taste to buy and assemble assets for him.

tbh I can't blame it on him, it seems to be an entirely French thing. They're always doing weird shit like calculating if they'll save 2 cents more by working from home vs driving to the office and using the company's electricity and then blow their entire salary eating every meal in McDonald's.

so there are 3 good modules

out of the steam reviews I saw people say there was only 1 good fan module

I'm assuming you're saying that currently the base game is good and there are 2 modules that are basically full games that are also good made by fans

Aside from Augury of Chaos there are two more modules planned, made by Pierre.

included with kotc2, or separate cash injections

let's be real, nothing is free

 

[AdolfSatan]

The two new modules designed by Pierre will be sold separately. That's why Mortmal is so pissed, he's already paid for them in the KS and Piere ain't delivering.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

The two new modules designed by Pierre will be sold separately.

40€ per module?

 

[AdolfSatan]

The two new modules designed by Pierre will be sold separately.

40€ per module?

 

[Bibbimbop]

I think it's tough for many codexers to understand that the types of games we enjoy just will never be that popular or that profitable.

lolwot
nigga, just look at codex goty. codex is not some monocled niche community. it's mainstream shithole with occasional "nigger!" posts.

Fair enough.

Also, if you can't pay 40€ for a game, you are a nigger.

 

[the mole]

I think it's tough for many codexers to understand that the types of games we enjoy just will never be that popular or that profitable.

lolwot
nigga, just look at codex goty. codex is not some monocled niche community. it's mainstream shithole with occasional "nigger!" posts.

Fair enough.

Also, if you can't pay 40€ for a game, you are a nigger.

I can but I don't feel like it, shrugs, I guess I'll just go back to all the games I haven't beaten yet that I bought for 10 bucks

 

[Desiderius]

I think it's tough for many codexers to understand that the types of games we enjoy just will never be that popular or that profitable.

lolwot
nigga, just look at codex goty. codex is not some monocled niche community. it's mainstream shithole with occasional "nigger!" posts.

Fair enough.

Also, if you can't pay 40€ for a game, you are a nigger.

I can but I don't feel like it, shrugs, I guess I'll just go back to all the games I haven't beaten yet that I bought for 10 bucks

You get what you pay for. There's a reason you haven't bothered to beat them yet.

 

[the mole]

I think it's tough for many codexers to understand that the types of games we enjoy just will never be that popular or that profitable.

lolwot
nigga, just look at codex goty. codex is not some monocled niche community. it's mainstream shithole with occasional "nigger!" posts.

Fair enough.

Also, if you can't pay 40€ for a game, you are a nigger.

I can but I don't feel like it, shrugs, I guess I'll just go back to all the games I haven't beaten yet that I bought for 10 bucks

You get what you pay for. There's a reason you haven't bothered to beat them yet.

I've bought many games for full price that were shit, so it's something I never do anymore

 

[Desiderius]

I think it's tough for many codexers to understand that the types of games we enjoy just will never be that popular or that profitable.

lolwot
nigga, just look at codex goty. codex is not some monocled niche community. it's mainstream shithole with occasional "nigger!" posts.

Fair enough.

Also, if you can't pay 40€ for a game, you are a nigger.

I can but I don't feel like it, shrugs, I guess I'll just go back to all the games I haven't beaten yet that I bought for 10 bucks

You get what you pay for. There's a reason you haven't bothered to beat them yet.

I've bought many games for full price that were shit, so it's something I never do anymore

This one isn’t.

 

[the mole]

I think it's tough for many codexers to understand that the types of games we enjoy just will never be that popular or that profitable.

lolwot
nigga, just look at codex goty. codex is not some monocled niche community. it's mainstream shithole with occasional "nigger!" posts.

Fair enough.

Also, if you can't pay 40€ for a game, you are a nigger.

I can but I don't feel like it, shrugs, I guess I'll just go back to all the games I haven't beaten yet that I bought for 10 bucks

You get what you pay for. There's a reason you haven't bothered to beat them yet.

I've bought many games for full price that were shit, so it's something I never do anymore

This one isn’t.

 

[almondblight]

I've said this before, but - if the Codex really wanted to help out with things, we'd have a fundraiser for a KotC 2 module competition. Even if it only raised a few hundred bucks, it could get a number of module creators who are tinkering with stuff to actually release something. Top prize $400, three runner ups $100, next 10 $20 or something depending on how much is raised. Blades of Exile had a few of those, and it really helped kicked off the module creation for it (there were a ton of Blades of Exile scenarios released).

 

[KainenMorden]

I've said this before, but - if the Codex really wanted to help out with things, we'd have a fundraiser for a KotC 2 module competition. Even if it only raised a few hundred bucks, it could get a number of module creators who are tinkering with stuff to actually release something. Top prize $400, three runner ups $100, next 10 $20 or something depending on how much is raised. Blades of Exile had a few of those, and it really helped kicked off the module creation for it (there were a ton of Blades of Exile scenarios released).

Player base is pretty small and the module creators aren't motivated by money. NWN has a large number of modules still being released with no financial incentive. It's not a bad idea but I don't think it would help much.

It's also not a game that has young 18-20 something players that want to get into game dev and will try to make a module to possibly help them land a job.

The player base is age 30+ with limited free time and we're fortunate to have the opportunity to play their passion projects.

It's just a niche game and that's fine. There isn't some marketing strategy or community involvement that would increase the player base in a big way IMHO.

 

[KainenMorden]

The two new modules designed by Pierre will be sold separately. That's why Mortmal is so pissed, he's already paid for them in the KS and Piere ain't delivering.

I can appreciate his frustration but also, ok let's say you've already given Pierre 120 euros or whatever.

What's the big deal? You're supporting him and he's not a scam artist, he's working on the game constantly and releasing updates. Maybe some players disagree on where his focus is but oh well. I'm confident he will release more modules eventually though of course you never know what life holds. I hope Pierre eats some meat soon if he hasn't already, a man cannot live off roots alone.

I guess it doesn't bother me to spend some money to help out an indie dev like him. The alternative is, games like this will cease to exist completely.

 

[mediocrepoet]

tbh I can't blame it on him, it seems to be an entirely French thing. They're always doing weird shit like calculating if they'll save 2 cents more by working from home vs driving to the office and using the company's electricity and then blow their entire salary eating every meal in McDonald's.

It's not a French thing, it's just him. My guess is that he didn't simply replace the abominable tokens with better ones because he didn't want to bruise a friend's ego. So instead, he switched to 3D. But what’s really infuriating is that some of us paid for three adventure packs, and he’s wasting time fooling around with experiments , remaking the base game while we’ve paid and received nothing. So I’m about to say, if you can't afford it, just feel free to pirate it. I've already paid far more than the price of one copy, and I'm not getting the product delivered.

Several of us had, but Pierre is and always has been both eccentric and autistic, and you'd have to be in another world not to have noticed that before pledging.

He'll deliver on his own schedule. Being a bitch about it won't change anything. If you didn't realize that during the Kickstarter, well...

 

[the mole]

skald against the black priory is 13 dollars