Atlus Metaphor: ReFantazio Thread - Atlus JRPG by Persona Veterans

[Haplo]

IGN game of the year

Metaphor uses these times to tackle headier questions. What defines a knight’s duty, or the responsibilities of those born into wealth? Can one ever heal from the pains of racism, and is religious tolerance a foolhardy endeavor? These aren’t easy questions to address but are asked plainly throughout Metaphor’s 70-hour playtime.

While Studio Zero refrains from giving clear-cut answers to these questions, it instead acknowledges the virtues of empathy, kindness, and strength in the face of overwhelming fear and hatred that can take root in an uncertain world where leaders promise salvation in exchange for unwavering loyalty

managed to beat runner up veilguard

Damn, I'm sure glad it won. But the runner up soured the "prestige" of the competition for me.

 

[Doktor Best]

Is this as good as it looks? Pondering to get a PS5 for it, since Atlus JRPGs are less fun on a PC.

Excellent if you enjoy jrpgs. One of Atlus' best IMO. Not worth buying a crappy console, though

Hehe, landed myself a decent career after my degree, and I still want to buy something big-ish to reward myself for slugging out that degree.
If they don't fire me at this company for being too cocky, money will soon be a secondary concern of mine.

Get a steam deck with a usb hub. Its a handheld, a console for your tv and all your savegames are easily usable on your pc via cloudsaves.

 

[Cat Dude]

Is the main character a boy, a girl or a non binary?

 

[Thac0]

Is the main character a boy, a girl or a non binary?

Japanese

 

[Grunker]

Is the main character a boy, a girl or a non binary?

it’s anime, they’re androgynous, duh

 

[RunningWolf]

it’s anime, they’re androgynous, duh

Only males are androgynous, which proves that anime is for fags.

 

[Haplo]

Is the main character a boy, a girl or a non binary?

Well, all the girls have the hots for the MC, so I assume he's male.

 

[MasPingon]

Is the main character a boy, a girl or a non binary?

Well, all the girls have the hots for the MC, so I assume he's male.

I hate to tell you, but there are no girls in this game, those are dudes.

 

[Talby]

It's a Pedosona game, every character is a faggot.

 

[True Ukrainian]

Yes, but that's one of the big problems this game has in my opinion. Difficulty is not granular, it's either way over the top or not there at all. This is even worse with boss encounters when you don't have info about weaknesses. Like that Bird boss on banana Island who reflects wind. Ahahaha, gotcha. Every Airborne enemy hates wind, but this one not. Such difficulty, such tactics. There is no decision-making in this game, you just guess at weaknesses and eventually you say: Fuck this, ima spam Almighty attacks lol. And this is why most of the archetypes are useless. You put some bonus xp in them to get other archetypes or maybe a skill you need for that one fight. In the end, the game plays the same on level 1 as it plays on level 50. That is not a good system imo.

All megaten games are like this. Metaphor actually makes it less tedious because grinding an archetype is less tedious than recruiting and fusing demons. Metaphor also tries to balance things out by removing the smirk buff granted for press turns.

 

[Haplo]

Finally finished it yesterday.

The end game soured my impression a bit. Was generally repetitive and tedious. Also too easy, once you've racked the OP abilities and archetypes.
So, I'd remove 1 point from the score... except I really liked the ending sequence. Granted, was pretty long and kept me awake longer then I planned. But had a lot of feels.. seeing how the place changes under your rule... but also what challenges and threats still loom.... feels of comradery, adventure... a neat story bracket... nice exposition. That's how a game's finale scenes should be made!

So overall... 8.5? Something like that. Best turn-based jrpg since forever (or original FF VII). Best (hybrid) blobber since Elminage Gothic.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Finally finished it yesterday.

The end game soured my impression a bit. Was generally repetitive and tedious. Also too easy, once you've racked the OP abilities and archetypes.
So, I'd remove 1 point from the score... except I really liked the ending sequence. Granted, was pretty long and kept me awake longer then I planned. But had a lot of feels.. seeing how the place changes under your rule... but also what challenges and threats still loom.... feels of comradery, adventure... a neat story bracket... nice exposition. That's how a game's finale scenes should be made!

So overall... 8.5? Something like that. Best turn-based jrpg since forever (or original FF VII). Best (hybrid) blobber since Elminage Gothic.

I preferred Persona 5 to this. The dungeons in persona were better, the waifus were hotter, the presentation was more realized.

It's still a great jrpg tho, had good fun with it.

 

[Sergio]

This is the preachiest JRPG I have ever played. At least have some nuance and don't forcefeed me your black & white worldview you dumb game. I was sick of it 20 hours in. It was probably supposed to make me care more, but it did the opposite instead. Fuck this type of writing, seriously.

But I stayed for fun combat that is just challenging enough, and a rapping monk. 8/10, would recommend.

 

[notpl]

it’s anime, they’re androgynous, duh

Only males are androgynous, which proves that anime is for fags.

We anime fans are so straight that we even make men into sexy girls.

 

[ghostdog]

I like this more than P5. Very solid game. Indeed, a bit too preachy, they opt for a middle-ages kind of oppression of the masses, but the setting is basically steampunk-victorian age, so it doesn't gel much... but at least the "prose" is much better than the average jprg. The Archetype/job/class system is great. The UI/screen is VERY busy, I wish there was some mod that disabled most of the effects.

 

[REhorror]

Love this game, awaiting for the inevitable Emperor/Retold edition.

Unlike other posters, I find this game to be pretty nuanced, I need a Louis route doe, he and his team are breddy cool.

 

[cretin]

A game about diversity and racism and there's not a single nigger in sight

The japs really do everything better, it's true!

 

[Sergio]

A game about diversity and racism and there's not a single nigger in sight

The japs really do everything better, it's true!

Sorry to disappoint but there's plenty of them later on, including a party member.

 

[cretin]

A game about diversity and racism and there's not a single nigger in sight

The japs really do everything better, it's true!

Sorry to disappoint but there's plenty of them later on, including a party member.

Once again, I say unto ye, Japs do everything better

 

[Chudolfler]

A very good review I thought from 2 weeks ago. The channel is new and small, but the quality isn't. He's a Chud too, if you need to be warned about that lol.

 

[KeAShizuku]

Western diversity: negro
Japan diversity: Pacific islander loli

Go through start collect DEI bonus.

 

[cretin]

So I've got about 10 hours in this now and I think it's pretty good. I don't lack criticisms for it, but the overall game here is very solid. I'm getting into the story, the setting is a mishmash that doesn't really hit but it's played out with enough enthusiasm to paper over it's deficiencies.

The major themes are pretty shallow and not at all subtle but by the same it's easy enough to ignore. At least I'm not forced to entertain homosexuality and nog worship the way it certainly would be if this were a WRPG.

I like the art style, it's reminiscent of good anime films instead of this tasteless modern slop that permeates most JRPGs now. On the other hand some of the character designs are retarded. I've just met the brawler paripus chick and she looks fuckin stupid.

 

[RegionalHobo]

So I've got about 10 hours in this now and I think it's pretty good. I don't lack criticisms for it, but the overall game here is very solid. I'm getting into the story, the setting is a mishmash that doesn't really hit but it's played out with enough enthusiasm to paper over it's deficiencies.

The major themes are pretty shallow and not at all subtle but by the same it's easy enough to ignore. At least I'm not forced to entertain homosexuality and nog worship the way it certainly would be if this were a WRPG.

I like the art style, it's reminiscent of good anime films instead of this tasteless modern slop that permeates most JRPGs now. On the other hand some of the character designs are retarded. I've just met the brawler paripus chick and she looks fuckin stupid.

problem is you are playing the best part of the game. after a certain plot twist i ll obviously not spoil game quality nosedives

 

[cretin]

TBQH at 21 hours in its started to annoy me. I am now having a lot of click through on annoying characters rambling on, and I've been made aware that the only two cool characters are already recruited (hulkenberg and strohl) leaving the rest of the roster a bunch of annoying retards who I am not looking forward to acquiring.

The combat is good but it is also a game where it will not telegraph hard fights that it expects you to fit a puzzle like solution. Hard fights - good. Hard fights thats are impossible to win without the right configuration but you wont fucking let me quit in the middle of a battle requiring me to alt f4 and then reconfigure the party and then try to slam the F key through a bunch of dialogue and cutscenes to get back to the battle to try out a different strat - annoying as fuck.

Another thing that I have to say is this game is uglier than it has any excuse for. The textures are genuinely PS2 era at times and the pixel crawl is insane even with SMAA on. Also, why is it JRPGs are still doing this thing in 2024 where you can't visibly see equipment? Weapon models change but characters are dressed the same throughout the entire game, theres not even cosmetic outfits ala dragon quest. It's really bland. Keeping in mind, Dragons Dogma - ostensibly a jrpg - represented every individual piece of equipment on the character model back in like 2012. Modern JRPGs have no excuse for this shit, its not 1993 with strict memory budgets.

 

[GentlemanCthulhu]

Been playing this for the past 47 hours. Really weird experience. The plot and narrative in general is exceptionally poor. It's full of contrivances and holes. It's constantly tripping over itself and undermines its own themes, at least when it comes to its auxiliary themes. As for as the central theme of anxiety, well I honestly have no idea what it's actually trying to say about it, and I've read every single line of plot the game threw at me. Pacing is also atrocious and there can be literal hours of yapping in-between dungeons. Combat and character design is stellar though. The presentation in general (along with music) really carries it.