Most deranged Codex hatedoms

[gaussgunner]

Most deranged fandoms: anything involving IE games that aren't PST. Thoroughly trash games through and through designed to be bottom of the barrel RPGs with mass appeal using mechanics from what was the biggest fad at the time(RTS)
PST, despite this, manages to be a good game. Good job, Avellone. You get one(1) Rusty seal of approval.

The RTS fad, hahahaha, you're so right. That explains why those games are so overrated. I never even knew about them when they came out, probably because... *checks wikipedia* yup, they were Windows/Mac games and I was still gaming on DOS. It was all for the button-clicker noobs.

That said, I liked the Westwood RTSes, it's just that all the copycats grew tiresome. And I'll grant that it's possible to make a good RPG on an RTS-RTwP engine, I've just never played PST because the premise doesn't interest me and I know it's not worth playing for the combat.

 

[Faarbaute]

Not necessarily the most deranged hatedom, but certainly the one I find most entertaining is the anti Larian, particularly anti Baldur's Gate 3 crowd. Maybe it's a bit of schadenfreude, as I was never a big fan of Baldur's Gate myself, but I just think it's funny, even though I appreciate their arguments, most of the time.

It could also be because the friend of mine who introduced me to Baldur's Gate as a kid was a massive neckbeard fedora tipper, before that was even a thing.

 

[luj1]

RTS fad lol

 

[gaussgunner]

Not necessarily the most deranged hatedom, but certainly the one I find most entertaining is the anti Larian, particularly anti Baldur's Gate 3 crowd. Maybe it's a bit of schadenfreude, as I was never a big fan of Baldur's Gate myself, but I just think it's funny, even though I appreciate their arguments, most of the time.

Yup, there's nothing deranged about hating Larian when you've played Divine Divinity and seen how far they've fallen. And I can only imagine the rage of Baldur's Gate fans as Larian butchers their baby. If past decline is any indication of future performance, BG3 is gonna make PoE look like a work of art.

It could also be because the friend of mine who introduced me to Baldur's Gate as a kid was a massive neckbeard fedora tipper, before that was even a thing.

lol

 

[Bigg Boss]

people hating on BG2 are pretty fucking deranged

people liking bg2 are deranged
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/why-was-bg2-subpar.1935/

Dude you loved Fallout 76.


"There is no "Codex hatedom". It's you. It's the shit you try to shove down people's throats under the guise of "news" that everyone hates."

I hope your ratings reflect this truth.

Something broke with that post blame Taluntain.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

people hating on BG2 are pretty fucking deranged

people liking bg2 are deranged
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/why-was-bg2-subpar.1935/

Dude you loved Fallout 76.

ad hominem + better than bg2

sorry the game you guys like is actually trash, while the game you guys attack me for liking you've never even played!
"b-b-but I'm magical and know what a game is like without playing it!"
yeah, sure you do
at least I've played BG2 enough times to call it trash through and through

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I'll go as far to say that if you like BG2, your opinion on RPGs is completely invalid. You shouldn't even be allowed to post in the GRPG section.

 

[Bigg Boss]

people hating on BG2 are pretty fucking deranged

people liking bg2 are deranged
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/why-was-bg2-subpar.1935/

Dude you loved Fallout 76.

ad hominem + better than bg2

sorry the game you guys like is actually trash, while the game you guys attack me for liking you've never even played!
"b-b-but I'm magical and know what a game is like without playing it!"
yeah, sure you do
at least I've played BG2 enough times to call it trash through and through

I just don't see how anybody that shilled for a Bethesda game like 76 (hardcore shilling like most of your posts were there for a long time) in current year can act like such a hardcore RPG dude. Your opinions kinda suck so anytime I hear you talk shit about any decent turnbased RPG it makes me laugh. BG 2 is not the best game ever but it is better than anything Bethesda makes.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I've never played this game, but I get all my opinions from youtubers therefore I am super informed!

Please, continue.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Imagine being so afraid of what people on the codex might think that you're afraid to play certain games. What a shithole of a website.

 

[Pink Eye]

What do you like about Fallout 76?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

What do you like about Fallout 76?

I went over it in the thread -- and surprise -- many codexers who tried it out after I recommended it ended up enjoying it for what it is. People who would have otherwise pretended to know what the game was about despite never playing it, merely because the codex told them what to think. What a lovely website.

 

[Kev Inkline]

Imagine being so afraid of what people on the codex might think that you're afraid to play certain games. What a shithole of a website.

If something is almost universally hated around here at first blush, I'd feel a bit apprehensive to pay $40-$50 for it. When the same game is going for under $10, I might give it a try for sure.

 

[Roguey]

Yup, there's nothing deranged about hating Larian when you've played Divine Divinity and seen how far they've fallen.

Divinity is one of their worst games and OS 2 is one of their best so they're falling upwards.

 

[gaussgunner]

Yup, there's nothing deranged about hating Larian when you've played Divine Divinity and seen how far they've fallen.

Divinity is one of their worst games and OS 2 is one of their best so they're falling upwards.

If you think the mediocre turnbased combat makes up for the ugly 3D (which is decline from Divinity II) and general cringe, I suppose.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Yup, there's nothing deranged about hating Larian when you've played Divine Divinity and seen how far they've fallen.

Divinity is one of their worst games and OS 2 is one of their best so they're falling upwards.

DOS2 is popular and not japanese therefore it's bad on the codex

 

[Bruma Hobo]

If you think the mediocre turnbased combat makes up for the ugly 3D (which is decline from Divinity II) and general cringe, I suppose.

Now *this* is a spoiled brat. I remember how back in the late 00's we were desperate for any kind of non-pedo turn-based RPG, now on the other hand people can afford to be picky (and this is thanks in part to the success of the first Original Sin game).

But keep complaining.

 

[Fedora Master]

I keep saying: CRPG fans are as desperate and delusional as Stealth game fans. That's why they will gobble up and praise any slop that gets thrown their way, be it DOS2 or Dishonored.

 

[HoboForEternity]

pillars of eternity hatedom are fucking deranged. it has flaws sure, but it does a lot of things well, especially deadfire. the hatewagon mostly came from chris avellone / feargus drama that extend toward obsidian games in general

 

[rusty_shackleford]

pillars of eternity hatedom are fucking deranged. it has flaws sure, but it does a lot of things well, especially deadfire. the hatewagon mostly came from chris avellone / feargus drama that extend toward obsidian games in general

it's a better game than bg2

 

[Rincewind]

I don't hate any game or developer, and I'm just posting this to see what kind of reactions this statement will garner.

 

[Alienman]

In my opinion, fandoms become "toxic" when only positivity is allowed. It usually lead to every fault in the game getting excused in some way.

Hate keeps it honest and

 

[Bruma Hobo]

pillars of eternity hatedom are fucking deranged. it has flaws sure, but it does a lot of things well, especially deadfire. the hatewagon mostly came from chris avellone / feargus drama that extend toward obsidian games in general

it's a better game than bg2

Even loli-JRPGs are better than BG2, but that doesn't make them good.

 

[gaussgunner]

If you think the mediocre turnbased combat makes up for the ugly 3D (which is decline from Divinity II) and general cringe, I suppose.

Now *this* is a spoiled brat. I remember how back in the late 00's we were desperate for any kind of non-pedo turn-based RPG, now on the other hand people can afford to be picky (and this is thanks in part to the success of the first Original Sin game).

But keep complaining.

Whatever bruh. DOS was a product of Kickstarter. Developer with 10 years of making 3D ARPGs says, Sweet now we can make that turnbased RPG we always wanted but were too afraid of going broke.

How bad was it really? In the 2000s (excluding consoles) you got
- Wizardry 8
- Fallout Tactics
- Geneforge, Avernum, Nethergate
- Temple of Elemental Evil
- Knights of the Chalice

And the "turnbased rennaissance" brought you
- Shadowrun
- Banner Saga
- Grimrock
- Elminage Gothic
- Lords of Xulima
- Telepath Tactics
- NEO Scavenger
- Age of Decadence
- Divinity Original Sin
- Underrail
- Darkest Dungeon
- Grimoire

So there was a drought in the 2000s and a glut of indie devs in general in the 2010s. Whatever.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

pillars of eternity hatedom are fucking deranged. it has flaws sure, but it does a lot of things well, especially deadfire. the hatewagon mostly came from chris avellone / feargus drama that extend toward obsidian games in general

I have to disagree with this. PoE was a huge disappointment in terms of the writing in general, quests, linearity, the hubs, and even the combat mobs. It was meh. And what's worse, the "balancing" was so fucking extreme that the classes just seemed to blend together.

Pheh I say! Pheh!

The Welsh crap and colonial world could have been interesting, but after the first town (Ch1) it just went downhill quite steeply.


Edit: One thing to add. This was the last Obsidian game I purchased. The reason for this was because I was so let down by everything.
I sat back and said "this is the best they could do? After all that support for years, and their horse shit that it was always the publishers fault, this was it."

I mean honestly guys, I'm convinced New Vegas is a fluke. It's their Magnum opus. And it was under constant constraint by the publisher etc.

Plus Soyer wasn't even enthusiastic about doing PoE. This cocksucker has the opportunity to make his own game and world etc. And do it from scratch, and PoE is what we got.

Let's not forget the game was late and even ran out of funding I believe or almost did, and zFergus essentially said get it done or its your job.