TheEntitledOne
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If you really want your mods deleted just make a Fuhrer Deathcamp Babysitter mod. Cancellation = Free deletion.
Bipolar much? If you hate beamdog, don't make mods for EE.
Sure. Let's say you're 18 and make a mod about RaHoWa or something of that sort. Fast forward 20 years, you are now running for a public office, when some journo gets an anonymous tip from a former friend of yours about a certain mod. There are good reasons to want your presence to be erased from the internet, be it politics, relationship (don't want your GF to find out that furry porn mod you made years ago), association (don't want anyone to find out you used to be a massive weeb!) or any reason at all, really. Mod makers work for free, to give people an opportunity to experience a game in a new way. You advocate punishing them for this so that whatever they made can be used against them at any point in the future. How is this not scummy? I swear, half the people here act as though modders are some massive assholes that are ruining their lives or something.Could you give a reason as to why it's scummy and why you'd like to remove the content you create from a service like the Nexus?
I deleted my mod for BGEE from BD's site because I hated the Beamdog scum who would benefit from it. I have to say i'm against this.
dark0ne said:These comments have gone round in circles for the past few days now. Locking it down.
Nothing will happen.Should be interesting to see what happens.
> I hate Beamdog
> I Modded BG:EE
> I deleted my mod to teach BD a lesson
Found the Unhinged Modder.. This is why Nexus needs this rule implemented. You freaks are shitting up the community.
Don't act like ModDB has no issues.
Why do you honestly hate Nexus other then "grr grr I'm riled up!" Have you ever made a mod before? How does this impact you?
complete lie. Deus Ex New Vision has 200,000+ downloads from that site alone, 1.5M page views and is still 82nd on the site. I was a texture artist on that mod.The average mod on ModDB gets like 200 downloads - do you really wanna play this game.
Nexus never changes. Paid mods was half a decade ago and they're still defending it.I read like 20 pages of the nexus thread and come to the conclusion the offended modders are actually just jealous that they don't get money for their work.
The two can overlap IMO.. Those are the kinds that act very defensively about their own work, because to them it's not just a hobby project contributed to a thriving community of hobbyists. To them it's something to use for professional references. And if it ever becomes inconvenient because it's no longer on par with the quality of their newer work... it gets deleted.
The two can overlap IMO.. Those are the kinds that act very defensively about their own work, because to them it's not just a hobby project contributed to a thriving community of hobbyists. To them it's something to use for professional references. And if it ever becomes inconvenient because it's no longer on par with the quality of their newer work... it gets deleted.
The reason why I don't like Nexus is because its extremely difficult to figure out incompatibilities due to how the site lays out its content. ModDB allows you to create a file listing with its own comments section basically allowing you to gate your files towards compatible versions and then provide support for each file.
The two can overlap IMO.. Those are the kinds that act very defensively about their own work, because to them it's not just a hobby project contributed to a thriving community of hobbyists. To them it's something to use for professional references. And if it ever becomes inconvenient because it's no longer on par with the quality of their newer work... it gets deleted.
They can. But it's all about attitude. Skacky started out making Quake and Thief maps for fun, and was later hired by 3D Realms to work on Wrath as a level designer. He still makes Quake and Thief maps for fun, because he enjoys it and loves these old games and their communities.
But some modders explicitly make mods as a career move. You can easily notice the difference in their attitudes.
I think you guys shitting on modders are full of shit yourself.
Modders drama is a meme, but in reality a small minority is involved in petty dramas, mostly teenagers and trannies.
The best modders are extremely rarely involved in them, I've never found myself using a mod that was deleted from the internet by the author.
It's an issue that is so rare, that shouldn't be a concern for good, maintained mod collections, that would be kept up to date with mods updates and releases.
There are legitimate concerns that make modpacks disliked by modders:
1) If most users acquire their mods with modpacks, modders will receive much less interaction, feedback and bug reports, while bugs will be harder to troubleshoot.
2) People won't pay attention who did what, won't appreciate and recognise their work enough to give direct donations.
Regardless of these concerns, overwheling majority of modders would probably unenthusiastically accept collections of mods kept as separate entries in mods manager.
They would probably result in more recognition to smaller unpopular but good mods, while less to big popular ones.
The one concern is that Nexus will put collections functionality behind a paywall making it the main source of income, while modders will get in return scraps and no direct recognition to inspire direct paypal donations from users.
Plans like this, or some other unwelcome by modders changes, are way more likely to be the reson for fear of modders exodus and taking precautions to take a complete hold over the mods.
Nexus pitching mod users against modders claiming it's essential for mod collections feature is shady as fuck.
It's one thing making something for fun and sharing for free, but watching some company profit from your work locked behind an agreement you can't opt out is another.
Everyone here agrees that whatever pennies they make from donations, are not worth the effort and time and are not the main motivation for modding, so they don't owe Nexus all their work, for the reach it gives them.
In principle there is nothing unreasonable in a desire to have a right to remove the shit you worked hard on, just in case the service undergoes some unwelcome changes, or another better service will appear, or for whatever reason the fuck you want really.
Personally, if I was an author of some serious effort mod, I've put hundreds of work hours in, I'd move it to modDB now, to wait and see how this situation with Nexus develops.
pre-madonna
Oh no.1) If most users acquire their mods with modpacks, modders will receive much less [ATTENTION].