No Man's Sky

[Makabb]

No it's not. All these techniques were known for decades

So why the only one that has made something similar ever is only lucasarts with the imuse and no else?

Knowing something and making something are 2 different things.

game mechanics are less interesting than minecraft.

load of bull, minecraft has only 1 game mechanic, mine and build.
This has more with actual gameplay.

 

[agentorange]

So it's just a completely randomly generated game, so who the fuck cares - how is that interesting. If there is no thought or purpose behind all this stuff then I don't give a shit, the whole experience is the equivalent of watching a screensaver.

 

[Makabb]

So it's just a completely randomly generated game, so who the fuck cares - how is that interesting. If there is no thought or purpose behind all this stuff then I don't give a shit, the whole experience is the equivalent of watching a screensaver.

So why is any other roguelike in existence interesting?

And why do people replay games like FTL, dungeons of dredmor or binding of isaac?

 

[jcd]

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[Makabb]

No, but rogulikes are also randomly generated, which agentorange referred to.

 

[jcd]

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[Makabb]

you equate random level layout and sometimes to some degree treasures, with this? where there's almost no handcrafted content to be found, there's no gameplay, there's nothing to do, and nothing interesting to find? give me a break

le what? if there would be no crafted content the game would not exist. Ofcourse there is handcrafted content which then gets randomised by the engine.
But it's not your normal randomisation where there is a chance of armor appearing in one room or another, here whole game is generated from the content that they have made, on a technical standpoint this is on a few levels higher than your average randomisation found in roguelikes. It's not a task that can be done with the 'techinques that have been known for decades'.
Apperantly not, as if no other game like this was made.

Saying this game is not impressive from technical side, is just pure ignorace.

 

[jcd]

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[Makabb]

it's not, it's nothing even remotely new, and it's known to suck almost every time it's implemented without fail, for example check starbound

the developers are also notoriously describing very simple actions and concepts in convoluted manner using grandiose terms, which can only mean that they have so little going on for their game they have to put on this charade to make it look innovative

Starbound is not generated by the game engine like No Man's sky. Starbound is just a normal game like terraria, FTL or any other 'normal' randomised game.

 

[jcd]

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[theSavant]

The game gives us a glimpse of how our own universe was created.
Planets, animals, plants, voices... all created by some mastermind rules.
XX billion star systems and the same thing happening on every planet:

Experiencing life as some random lifeforms on a planet.
Live... die... respawn on another planet... repeat the cycle.
A neverending cycle. When you play that game, you will feel it... Eternal loneliness, pointlessness, desperation, depression.

At least in this game we make a journey to the crazy core of it all, to the center of the galaxy. Aren't you curious what the developer comes up with?

 

[Makabb]

so is no man's fraud
how is procedural generation in it any different from any other game that features it

No Man's sky is not your average procedural generation like in the past or any other games. In fact NMS is probably first game in history with what they done.

The development team developed a procedural generation system where they would first hand-create core structures and the art associated with those - such as a basic skeleton and skin for a creature - and then allow the algorithm to make randomized changes to that, as to make a wide variety of creatures, mimicking the diversity of species resulting from evolution on Earth. They made sure the elements of this generation process reflected the setting - creatures and plants inhabiting a planet that contained blue-colored minerals would be tinted blue as well. To assure that the procedural generation worked well, the development team created the in-game equivalent of automated probes to visit the various planets and take images to review, allowing for some tweaks to be made by human developers.

 

[jcd]

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[Makabb]

NIHIL NOVI MOTHERFUCKER

Been there, done that. They just brainwashed you with hip and cool phrases that appear sophisticated to the untrained eye. This whole description does not contain ANYTHING even remotely new. Can you stop with praising this crap to high heavens now?

So show me a game from a technical standpoint like No Man's Sky.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Real question is: will this be first game to deliver such ludicrous promises.
It's as if Molyneyx was character assassinated to pave way for this hype.

 

[Makabb]

Real question is: will this be first game to deliver such ludicrous promises.

There is no reason not to.There is already space engine which showed that it can be done.

 

[jcd]

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[Makabb]

NIHIL NOVI MOTHERFUCKER

Been there, done that. They just brainwashed you with hip and cool phrases that appear sophisticated to the untrained eye. This whole description does not contain ANYTHING even remotely new. Can you stop with praising this crap to high heavens now?

So show me a game from a technical standpoint like No Man's Sky.

What technical standpoint? From technical standpoint it features: mundane procedural generation, mediocre graphics, no notable game mechanics (minecraft with guns). So what are you praising here?

First ever procedural generation like this in history of vidya gaming where whole game is created by the game engine itself, calls it mundane.

Tag well earned JCD, tag well earned.

 

[Makabb]

JCD, Imagine there are robots. There are hundreds of robots which are produced by a factory and all of them are same (procedural games) but suddenly someone makes a robot that can create other robots( No Man's Sky).

Wouldn't that be impressive?

 

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[Makabb]

What are you even trying to say? This isn't the first time in history a game features procedural generation. They just got lazy and made everything random. Don't try spinning this like this is something new and unheard of, it's not.

It is, no game before was made by the game engine.

Everything in it is "procedurally generated". Weapons, items, enemies, terrain, quests, upgrades, everything. I think you'll like it. It features 53489753489579384750347502347503475 unique possible game worlds, should be right up your alley (it fucking sucks).

lol this game is not, it's jsut normal procedural generation, and it has no destruction.

 

[Zep Zepo]

His tag should be

*tard

To signify he's a 'tard of everything.

Zep--

 

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[Makabb]

Foolish mortals, you just don't understand the grand master plan. You thought aliens will come from outer space? No! They will come from inside of your pc's when the game engine of NMS will go rampant and will start to replicate itself on mass scale. The Hello games central computer will become Skynet and you all will be doomed as it gains consciousness.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

There is no reason not to.There is already space engine which showed that it can be done.

Incompetence is a very possible reason.