Putting the 'role' back in role-playing games since 2002.
Donate to Codex
Good Old Games
  • Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.

Of female characters in RPG's

Harthwain

Magister
Joined
Dec 13, 2019
Messages
5,422
The aftermath dude.
We're talking about different things then:

The other part is, I think, showing what can happen to someone who wants to war, thinking it is all about having fun and glory. [...] To me it sounds more like a warning to all those sitting at home who are eager to go to battle for glory/adventure and are confronted with the ugly reality of war/combat/battle.
 
Vatnik
Joined
Apr 10, 2018
Messages
7,707
Location
澳大利亚
Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In
Of course I'm not talking about the contemporary cesspit that goes under the name of "western culture". I'm talking about the only western culture worthy of such name, i.e., the one that was largely shaped by Christianity. Which is what I was referring to when talking about the medieval roots of western fantasy.
Ok, have you heard of Merlin?
Just read his wikipedia page and it DOES say he was sired by an incubus....
 

leino

Cipher
Joined
Oct 14, 2014
Messages
129
Location
rats' alley
He's defeated by Merry, not Eowyn. Tolkien indirectly confirmed this himself in letter #210 where he's correcting the proposed movie script.
There is no fight. Sam does not 'sink his blade into the Ringwraith's thigh', nor does his
thrust save Frodo's life. (If he had, the result would have been much the same as in III 117-20: 4 the
Wraith would have fallen down and the sword would have been destroyed.)
Eowyn did slay the fellbeast though and challenge the witchking, allowing Merry to backstab him.
I think the quote is also a bit ambiguous; doesn't fall "down" in specific imply a fall to the ground rather than "falling" as in being destroyed? The former is what actually seems to happen in story, followed by Eowyn's finishing blow on the bowed nazgul, so you could argue it took the two of them together to defeat him, neither of them a mortal Man.
 
Last edited:

Sarathiour

Cipher
Joined
Jun 7, 2020
Messages
3,276
Trying to determine exactly who dealt the fatal blow on the witchking is a bit silly, it's not some moba boss that your are trying to last-hit. We can quote again the whole passage, but basically, eowyn kill the shade, defy the witchking by revealing that she's a women and the daughter of the king, allowing merry to deal a decisive blow. She then break her sword against the helpless wraith, but at this point it's unclear it he was already dead or not.
The jackson's version completely miss that it's precisely because the witchking is cautious about the prophecy and take eowyn seriously that he exposes himself to another opponent.
 

octavius

Arcane
Patron
Joined
Aug 4, 2007
Messages
19,696
Location
Bjørgvin
To Action-Jackson "subtlety" is just a word.

BTW, I was recently reading in Tolkien's Letters about Eowyn:
Though not a 'dry nurse' in temper, she was also not really a soldier or 'amazon', but like many brave women was capable of great military gallantry at a crisis.
 

Norfleet

Moderator
Joined
Jun 3, 2005
Messages
12,250
Just read his wikipedia page and it DOES say he was sired by an incubus....
Well, look, mythologically speaking, you don't become a magic person unless you have magic ancestry. The entire notion of wizards in D&D being that anyone with sufficient INT being able to become a wizard with enough study is nerd wish fulfillment. There are no cases where a total rando becomes a magic person, unless in the process he discovers that he descends from magic ancestry.
 

KateMicucci

Arcane
Joined
Sep 2, 2017
Messages
1,676
Just read his wikipedia page and it DOES say he was sired by an incubus....
Well, look, mythologically speaking, you don't become a magic person unless you have magic ancestry. The entire notion of wizards in D&D being that anyone with sufficient INT being able to become a wizard with enough study is nerd wish fulfillment. There are no cases where a total rando becomes a magic person, unless in the process he discovers that he descends from magic ancestry.
So far as I can recall I think you're right if you're talking greek myths, but still I don't think you can blame this one on D&D.

Witches and prophets are described doing magic in The Golden Ass with no apparent magical ancestry, and even the witch's slavegirl Photis is able to do magic.

Shakespeare's Prospero learned sorcery from books and his reliance on his spell books for his power is important to the plot.

The real-life sorceror John Stacey presumably learned from books, rather than magical heritage:
John Stacey, a Fellow who studied astronomy, is accused of trying to kill Lord Beauchamp, by melting a lead image. Under torture he confesses that, along with another Fellow, Thomas Blake, and a local landowner, Thomas Burdet, he had conspired against King Edward IV. The three are charged with 'imagining' the death of the King and the Prince of Wales by sorcery, and circulating treasonous 'bills, rhymes, and ballads'. Blake is pardoned, but despite protesting their innocence Stacey and Burdet are hanged, drawn and quartered at Tyburn in May.
Timeline date
Tue, 05/01/1477 - 12:00


Queen Elizabeth I's court wizard John Dee, who owned the largest library in England, spent most of his time using an obsidian mirror to summon angels.
 

KainenMorden

Educated
Patron
Joined
Aug 19, 2022
Messages
938
Codex Year of the Donut
Umm, but you're playing as the woman.

I don't see how this is the more heterosexual thing to do. There's some crazy mental gymnastics guys that like to "roleplay" as women go through to explain themselves.

You know what I call guys that "roleplay" as women?

Confirmed homosexuals
 
Self-Ejected

Dadd

Self-Ejected
Joined
Aug 20, 2022
Messages
2,727
You're being obtuse. Playing a woman in a crpg to stare at her ass is just weird and sounds like a cover story
The sex of your character doesn't affect how most rpgs play out, so I'd rather play a character that looks better.
 

Desiderius

Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard
Patron
Joined
Jul 22, 2019
Messages
14,847
Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Wrath
Just read his wikipedia page and it DOES say he was sired by an incubus....
Well, look, mythologically speaking, you don't become a magic person unless you have magic ancestry. The entire notion of wizards in D&D being that anyone with sufficient INT being able to become a wizard with enough study is nerd wish fulfillment. There are no cases where a total rando becomes a magic person, unless in the process he discovers that he descends from magic ancestry.
Rome wasn't built in a day. The mere organism is not the individual element. The New Testament opens with a genealogy for a reason.
 

Desiderius

Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard
Patron
Joined
Jul 22, 2019
Messages
14,847
Insert Title Here Pathfinder: Wrath
Umm, but you're playing as the woman.

I don't see how this is the more heterosexual thing to do. There's some crazy mental gymnastics guys that like to "roleplay" as women go through to explain themselves.

You know what I call guys that "roleplay" as women?

Confirmed homosexuals
Staring DNE roleplaying lol. Sometimes I make my MC my wife and sometimes myself and sometimes let's see last one was Ric Flair. My wife wouldn't touch a sword with a ten-foot pole, there's no roleplaying there. She has a nice face and ass and if there's something in a game that approximates it it's pleasurable to look at it.

Full Portrait.jpg


I don't mind some storyfaggotry but if I'm playing a game with good combat and tedious storytelling (or even if I'm replaying a game with a decent story I've already explored) I look at the scenery while clicking through the text.
 

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.
Back
Top Bottom