Path of Exile is a MAJESTIC incline

[Perkel]

well decided to try poe after a long while to test out atlas passive tree and seems like they massively improved experience. For a while game was bloated and now you can just straight up remove things you don't like and focus on what you want to do instead of this weird 2-10% chance to maybe see some content you actually like to play.

Used my old standard motregul grasp 92 necro with broken passive tree but some pretty good gear for ssf character before influences were a thing. Spent some passives to boost harbringer and voila. few annul shards in like 20-30 minutes. I guess with it you can reasonably focus on something like crafting which never really was possible without trading.

 

[Grunker]

crafting which never really was possible without trading.

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[Perkel]

crafting which never really was possible without trading.

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I mean something more than adding a mod to an item or reroll it few times.

 

[Grunker]

crafting which never really was possible without trading.

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I mean something more than adding a mod to an item or reroll it few times.

???

 

[Kjaska]

"Hasn't played an ever-changing online game for years. Makes sweeping statements about the current state of the game with absolute confidence anyway." - Perkel in a nutshell.

 

[Perkel]

"Hasn't played an ever-changing online game for years. Makes sweeping statements about the current state of the game with absolute confidence anyway." - Perkel in a nutshell.

Shut up nigger.

???

I mean yeah this and expedition is kind of crafting but this is not what i was talking about. I was talking about using currency to roll specific items. Previously it was night impossible for SSF players because most of currencies are too rare. You won't be doing any crafting if you can find exalt once a day, same with orb of annulment and few other currencies that are required to do some high level crafting.

With this change for example i know annulment shads come from harbringer so i can legit farm it. Essences ? Focus on them and you can farm them. I never liked them precisely because you never get enough them to do anything worthwile. Now with this change you can legit farm them. DOT multi from temple ? Previously sure it was possible but to get such item you would need to spend literally weeks and even then you didn't have annulments to do anything. Ancient orbs farming to get specific needed unique ? Yup. Now you can farm them.

And it is not like this change doesn't touch expedition or harvest. You can legit now farm them as if you would play harvest league or expedition league.

POE for a long time had issue with content bloat that was introducing more and more randomness into mix which created disjoined mess where you can wait for hours to see content you want to continue to play because of % chances lowering with each new content added.

 

[Grunker]

First you say crafting is not possible without trading, which is categorically false

Now you say you meant specifically putting orbs onto items, which is like saying that by “sex” you only meant “masturbation” and in any case would also be a false statement due to things like fossils

Maybe you should just give this one up

 

[Perkel]

First you say crafting is not possible without trading, which is categorically false
Maybe you should just give this one up

Ok craft me some DOT temple multi weapon in reasonable time frame frame and BTW aside from that it needs other good mods. Oh btw also get me some ancient orbs without using passive tree.

Without passive tree changes you would be looking at 100-200-300 hours maybe more depending on RNG in SSF. Just to use item for 10-20 hours and it is not even probable that you will get that item in first place as the amount of full crear alva runs required is high. Those alone would take you many hours.

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Ok. Then lets agree to disagree.

You think atlas passive tree doesn't change anything to SSF crafting.
I say it does.

 

[Grunker]

You think atlas passive tree doesn't change anything to SSF crafting.

“crafting wasn’t impossible on SSF”

“SO YOU’RE SAYING ATLAS PASSIVES HAD NO IMPACT ON CRAFTING HUH”

 

[Perkel]

You think atlas passive tree doesn't change anything to SSF crafting.

“crafting wasn’t impossible on SSF”

“SO YOU’RE SAYING ATLAS PASSIVES HAD NO IMPACT ON CRAFTING HUH”

If something requires 50 000 hours to craft is it for you something you can craft or not ? Seems like you don't understand language enough to consider that people use impossible not as absolute statement but also as epithet to describe something so hard or so laborious to do that it is not practically achievable.

And the very fact i need to explain it means you are fucking retard.

 

[Kjaska]

With this change for example i know annulment shads come from harbringer so i can legit farm it. Essences ? Focus on them and you can farm them. I never liked them precisely because you never get enough them to do anything worthwile. Now with this change you can legit farm them. DOT multi from temple ? Previously sure it was possible but to get such item you would need to spend literally weeks and even then you didn't have annulments to do anything. Ancient orbs farming to get specific needed unique ? Yup. Now you can farm them.

This was already possible as early as the first Maven appearance. Over a year ago. I remember, because I had two Headhunters , a gazillion Essences and multiple of the t4 Seeds from Harvest that league in SSF. I highly doubt you ever hit anything "needed" with Ancients.

POE for a long time had issue with content bloat that was introducing more and more randomness into mix which created disjoined mess where you can wait for hours to see content you want to continue to play because of % chances lowering with each new content added.

This is straight up factually incorrect. The content doesn't use a zero-sum system for determining the chance to spawn. They all have a flat 8% (except harvest) and each roll independently of each other.

Ok craft me some DOT temple multi weapon

There is no dot multi temple mod.

 

[Reina]

Level 74, started mapping, and the ad-hoc build is still doing somewhat well, despite most of my gear being woefully outdated (some of them I carry since act V). Had a period where I died every third area and thought 'that's the end', but as it turned out, it was more of an issue with lag spikes than the build itself. Switching to lockstep from predictive movement helped immensely.
Still, I only have 3,1K HP, which feels a bit too low, yet I'm out of ideas on how to increase the number. Almost every piece of my equipment already has a +life modifier.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive...tP-968Yr0-Paj-hz-uv7I_94AA7oaC-Led2MF-32tHA==

My current passive tree. Still torn between a few choices, since at this point I am still alternating between tornado shot/lightning arrow. I'll probably settle at one when I get my first reasonable 5/6-link weapon/armor.

 

[Kjaska]

You're right next to Bravery in the Duelist area. Revenge of the Hunted is a decent cluster and is next to an aura and ele damage clusters. Intuition is next to Herbalism.

3,1k life in white maps is ok, if you also have some other sources of damage mitigation like high armour and Molten Shell and/or Spell Suppression.

Some more general criticism of your tree, if you're interested:

Spoiler

Not sure why you're taking dot AND crit nodes. Unless you're trying to get every Bow Mastery, the generic elemental damage clusters are more value. Especially if you forgo the crit in favour of Precise Technique. Crit is a great way to scale damage in the end game, but early on you just don't have the gear to make it work. IMO drop all of the Dot and Crit bow clusters and pick up Graceful Assault (replace your Silver Flask with something better) and Marked for Death cluster (and use Sniper's Mark supported by Mark on Hit.

 

[Reina]

Thanks, Kjaska!

You're right next to Bravery in the Duelist area. Revenge of the Hunted is a decent cluster and is next to an aura and ele damage clusters. Intuition is next to Herbalism.

I actually have Bravery, forgot to tick it in. RotH seems a bit too weak to warrant a pretty hefty investment. Intuition, I keep as my 'in case I run of out ideas' option, since it doesn't seem particularly powerful to me as well.

aura and ele damage clusters.

Not sure if any aura passives are worth it, since I'm using only Precision (+Herald of Ice as my mana reservation skills). As for elemental damage passive,, I avoided them, since they'll become useless if I end up sticking to Tornado Shot. I will respect to them though if Lighting Arrow ends up as my chosen skill.

Not sure why you're taking dot AND crit nodes.

I picked them mainly because I didn't know what skill I'd end up using, and since PoE can be very obfuscating when it comes to nature/source of damage, I thought it won't go to waste anyway. In any case, I am (probably) not using DoT at all, while my crit chance is decent (28% IIRC) and those crits can be felt nicely during the gameplay. Yeah, I thought about Precise Technique early in the game, but since then I crit so much, I decided to ignore it.

Graceful Assault and Marked for Death

Nah, I am not using Onslaught at all. I haven't been willing to sacrifice flask spot for it, and otherwise, I didn't find a reliable way to trigger it, so I decided to ignore this mechanic.

On the other hand, I only recently started using Sniper's Mark on my cast-when-hit link, along with Steelskin and some curse. Before, I self-casted it on particularly tough bosses, so it didn't seem particularly powerful to me - Focal Point changed that.
I'll use your suggestion when I find a decent piece of equipment where I can fit those gems.

 

[Gerrard]

Do these passives that affect monster damage and life apply to everything you open from the map device, or is it literally only regular maps?

 

[Reina]

Those new monster mods really make the game a slog to play. When I boot up PoE, I expect a large-scale massacre simulator, not a dance-dance revolution (lest you get OHK's by some dumbass mechanics)
I think I'll drop it for this league, even if my house-made char has yet to reach the wall (got to T6 maps, always yellow/blue).

 

[Kjaska]

I had a similar experience until the last round of nerfs to the rare mods. Now it's fine for the most part. I suspect that your build has a lot of damage potential left. I wouldn't count on the next league having easier rare mobs. One of GGGs apparent goals is to slow players down.

 

[Reina]

Oh, I am still very much fine damage-wise, even on 4-link. Aside from some irritating rares, I am melting everything, even most of the map bosses. But the frantic pace of every encounter, and inevitable death if I stop paying attention for half of a second have worn me out. I can't imagine what it feels to play a melee character in the current state of the game.

 

[tritosine2k]

If you can farm pandemonium + stalker sentinel logbook and flatten >40% delirious harvest in 2-3 sec then I'd agree you have melting build. Otherwise why juice.

 

[Kjaska]

It's fine on my Lightning Strike Champ. I'm sure it's fine on a Boneshatter char as well, but I haven't tested it yet personally.

 

[Peachcurl]

btw. is there any new info on a potential beta release for PoE 2? Haven't seen much on that in a while.

 

[Kjaska]

No new info on a PoE 2 beta. Chris mentioned an alpha multiple times, but also said that there is no way to join it.

My guess is that the development of PoE 2 got massively cucked by NZ's covid policies.

 

[somerandomdude]

Last league I played, I leveled a necromancer to level 98 wearing literal rags (tabula rasa). Pet builds are pretty consistent in PoE, one variety or another is usually pretty good for a budget build. Specter builds can be pretty cheap, golem mancers are typically a little stronger, but they require some more expensive stuff. I haven't played in awhile, but when I do play I stick to standard league anymore. I don't have the time to play league. And I got lots of nice stuff that's piled up over the years on standard, and I don't have to worry about leveling and gearing, and can more or less play and test stuff out at my leisure.

 

[Perkel]

No new info on a PoE 2 beta. Chris mentioned an alpha multiple times, but also said that there is no way to join it.

My guess is that the development of PoE 2 got massively cucked by NZ's covid policies.

Last year they said they had finished 2nd act and were making 3rd one out of 7.

POE is YEARS away at this rate. Obviously making content every quarter doesn't help.

 

[Peachcurl]

No new info on a PoE 2 beta. Chris mentioned an alpha multiple times, but also said that there is no way to join it.

My guess is that the development of PoE 2 got massively cucked by NZ's covid policies.

Last year they said they had finished 2nd act and were making 3rd one out of 7.

POE is YEARS away at this rate. Obviously making content every quarter doesn't help.

Why, they can just copy pasta the last few and are done with it. There's... precedent.