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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

Discussion in 'Owlcat Games' started by Ruchy, Oct 4, 2018.

  1. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    You can make it good but that's a little more advanced.
     
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  2. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    You goody-goodies make me sick.
     
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  3. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    As if there were anything more current-year bien-pissant than trying to fuck everything that moves.
     
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  4. Xamenos Magister Patron

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    No! Bad Desiderius, bad!
     
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  5. Mr. Magniloquent Arcane Patron

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    The recommendation was due to the party coherence being greater and more robust. My first play through was actually a parade of non-good edgelords. That's not to say the good aligned party members aren't without faults, but my morally ambiguous party got pretty obnoxious.

    Jaethal: She's so awesome that she's perpetually bored and lets you know both constantly.
    Harrim: A failure who wants to the world to end because he's a loser.
    Regonogar: Psychopath douchebag who wants to suck your dick ASAP.
    Jubilost: Mixed bag. Histrionic personality disorder wears thin, mellows out just in time. Tolerable.
    Nok-Nok: He's actually OK.
     
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  6. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Good is the edge.
     
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  7. Parabalus Arcane

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    Pretty much no mechanically advantage to being evil as well.
     
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  8. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Only companion who's literally immortal. Can you ask for anything better in a tank?

    Has one of the best classes in the game.

    I see this as a win.

    Of course he is.

    Also on Team Evil is fire-tailed GF Kanerah, and then you can round the team out with CN Octavia. Arcane Trickster is the class that manages to make damage cantrips awesome, after all, I'd take that over an Alchemist any day.
     
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  9. Mr. Magniloquent Arcane Patron

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    I will agree that Kanerah is awesome. She is everything Jaethal pretends to be is far more useful. I liked that character. Jaethal as a tank was an annoyance. Her undead status could come in handy, but her negative energy healing was an abberation that wasn't really worth the hassle. Regonigar was mechanically OK, but gishes take time to become worthy. For AT, weapon DPS is better than cantrip spam. A better activity is to churn through your scrolls.
     
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  10. Yosharian Magister

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    I have a sneaking suspicion that 30 DR/- and +40 Temporary Hit Points on tap each round combined with her immunities makes Jaethal the best tank in the game. I haven't tested it yet though since I'm still in the process of finishing my Merc playthrough
     
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  11. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Varnhold’s Lot CotW/Stolen Lands Encounters owns.
     
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  12. Haplo Cipher Patron

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    I agreed with everything up to that point.
    I mean sure, Jubilost IS fine and if you prefer him, absolutely no reason not to use him. Also probably the best written character.

    But for me no character came close to the usefulness of Octavia as an Arcane Trickster. Like Nano wrote, she can even make cantrips useful and that's an achievement by itself. But also if you focus on Conjuration CC spells, she will dominate any battlefield. Her rays will melt bosses. And eventually at AT capstone, she becomes an aoe damage monster too. If you go for a Sword Saint (or another robe wearer), you'll appreciate the Mage Armor she can provide for you early on.
     
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  13. Yosharian Magister

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    Conjuration is old hat, Evocation for Icy Prison and Necromancy for Wail shenanigans
     
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  14. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Both Octavia and Jub are dominant in their own way.

    Saint Octavia is the fun one.
     
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    Icy Prison is what, spell level 5? And single target? LOL. Conjuration dominates the battlefield with aoe CC effects right from the very first levels. AND ignores Spell Resistance.
    Chains of Light admittedly come a spell level later but are better then Icy Prison due to no SR check.

    As for Wail... end game only and be extra careful not to kill your own party? I'll pass.
     
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  16. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Prison is Evocation so nice supplement for a Nuker. Sometimes there is only one thing on the battlefield but it’s a dangerous thing so AoE isn’t what is needed.
     
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    A nice supplement for nuker - exactly what it is.
    As for single dangerous enemies, aoe effects tend to work just fine versus them as well. But you have many options. Including Icy Prison, but also Chains, VineTrap (divine casters).
     
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  18. Yosharian Magister

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    I dunno though, Icy Prison gets +4 DC from Elemental Focus and Water Robes... That's significant. And it still affects targets somewhat on a successful save. And Mass Icy Prison at level 9.. GG

    Wail is just for fun really
     
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  19. Haplo Cipher Patron

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    Well, all Conjuration spells can get +4 DC from Rod of Power Source. Usually available much sooner then Flaming Vengeance (lower tier, I guess) and slightly bigger DC bonus.
     
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  20. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    In CotW you’ve really got to flank to turn on flanking so sometimes single target does the trick. There’s less competition at five than six and you get to play two more whole levels with it (Womb/Drezen), and in P:K sometimes depends on what Rod you end up with.
     
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  21. Yosharian Magister

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    True, but Robe of Water and Elemental Focus can be gotten easily just as you obtain Icy Prison so it's an immediate and very large impact on the spell's effectiveness. It's a +6 bonus together with Spell Focus

    Rod of power source is a random drop, I ended up with multiple Rod of Undeaths instead sigh
     
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  22. Mr. Magniloquent Arcane Patron

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    AT are great in KM, don't get me wrong. My favorite class in KM by far. I just think inexperienced players like Broseph will make better use of an Alchemist. While they can't delete VIPs with rays, they can attack each saving throw with and apply a devastating effect like Blindness, Nausea, and Prone. Those bombs are always at the Alchemist's highest DC, ignore magic resistance, are party friendly, high in quantity, and can be applied as needed. DPS gets respectable after a certain point too. The support spells also really help extend the adventuring day. The ability to use more armor, and martial weapons (Grenaider), they're just more newb friendly. I suggested it as an alternative more than as a recommendation.
     
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  23. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Been flooded with those a lot lately. Make Harrim or Jae a Necromancer and you're good.
     
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  24. Desiderius Found your egg, Robinett, you sneaky bastard Patron

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    Just hit level nine:

    vdlc discorant.jpg

    This is where InEffective does his Vivi splash to pick up a couple Sneaks. I figure why not just stay Bard and pick up seven?
     
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    Not sure if it's already been mentioned, but undead HP scale with Charisma. She needs a nice hat.

    Edit: Funny trick I read from CTCP's Rogue guide - 1 level of Kinetic Knight with an energy blast and now you're sneak attacking against their Touch AC :lol: (it's 0 burn with a KK)
     
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