Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[ArchAngel]

spawn of rovagug is immune to energy drain

So was Harulka for some reason. I wanted to Enervate him to death and it didn't work..

 

[Shadenuat]

not immune to stat drain though

 

[Shadenuat]

Spoiler

now to kill dominated bear

the teh itemization:

Anyway what have I learned:
He s immune to drain/is permafreeaction true sight etc immune to Death magic i.e. banshee blast, immune to prone, fear obviously etc
around 34 SR so actually can be penetrated even without rod
is not immune to stat drain or stackable penalties
20 elemental resists
around +34 saving throws or so, reflex is lower around 20
most effective thing for me was Hellfire Ray - did more than 300 damage and Jaethal used Divine dagger well. Reg stacked AC penalty, then u might want to switch to +10 Axe or something

Unfair Stats:

Chaotic Evil Aberration, 1600 hp

attacks:
some melee slam for 100 dmg
aoe whole area confusion which ignores immunity to confusion (? reg's mantle did nothin), 40 DC - ignores Mind Blank as well
something similar but charm
Enfeeblement (int sets to 1) - use Heal scroll
Super Slam which is Unholy damage which one-shots you (unless save), and I think it's ranged and tracking, not sure if you're supposed to dodge this in RTwP?

the attack pattern is random so good luck.

recommended tactics: cleric of Erastil for +40 saving throws and Haploing. paladin with max cha and mark of justice definitely will help melt it really quickly probably since it wil cancel extra DR it has. magma earth and holy bombs are ok too.
imo Lantern King fight is more interesting.
now to rush through dungeon find items missed and replay the fight >< the fight is not nearly as annoying as passing perception checks on Unfair 16 times. really makes no sense to go into dungon before level 18 with linzi with observant alertness skill focus perception but then it ruins the whole concept

ugh this design gave me autism. and I am 31 yo and still play with little painted toy solders with other autists. think ive missed 1 per check forever
or maybe because I already entered place even tho didnt kill rovagug, dragon doesn't take items even though I think I have all of them. well whatever.

P.S The loot is garbage. Yea already googled about cloak. Still hoped for some +8 sword or something.

P.P.S For Harem Ending, before fight with every boss in dungeon u must find all their items/diaries, then their item spawns on them on death which u need 5 total. If you already killed them: ggwp. not sure if will wait if they change this or maybe will go for some notepad++ action.

Items u need:

Spoiler

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RivelsLullaby_Item 79fcb294a06f34b4bb68c97c14ab031d

Duo_Item1 7bae9e6a955c00247a8f3f28dca6f627

Duo_Item2 647532ce4db10de41b0fe6620d6d6177

GodEmperor_FinalItem 2f7822fc97296d6418e757fa9a35aa65

 

[Desiderius]

Spoiler

now to kill dominated bear

the teh itemization:

Anyway what have I learned:
He s immune to drain/is permafreeaction true sight etc immune to Death magic i.e. banshee blast, immune to prone, fear obviously etc
around 34 SR so actually can be penetrated even without rod
is not immune to stat drain or stackable penalties
20 elemental resists
around +34 saving throws or so, reflex is lower around 20
most effective thing for me was Hellfire Ray - did more than 300 damage and Jaethal used Divine dagger well. Reg stacked AC penalty, then u might want to switch to +10 Axe or something

Chaotic Evil Aberration, 1600 hp

attacks:
some melee slam for 100 dmg
aoe whole area confusion which ignores immunity to confusion (? reg's mantle did nothin), 40 DC
something similar but charm
Enfeeblement (int sets to 1) - use Heal scroll
Super Slam which is Unholy damage which one-shots you (unless save), and I think it's ranged and tracking, not sure if you're supposed to dodge this in RTwP?

the attack pattern is random so good luck.

recommended tactics: cleric of Erastil for +40 saving throws and Haploing. paladin with max cha and mark of justice definitely will help melt it really quickly probably since it wil cancel extra DR it has. magma earth and holy bombs are ok too.
imo Lantern King fight is more interesting.
now to rush through dungeon find items missed and replay the fight >< the fight is not nearly as annoying as passing perception checks on Unfair 16 times. really makes no sense to go into dungon before level 18 with linzi with observant alertness skill focus perception but then it ruins the whole concept

ugh this design gave me autism. and I am 31 yo and still play with little painted toy solders with other autists. think ive missed 1 per check forever well whatever.

P.S The loot is garbage. Yea already googled about cloak. Still hoped for some +8 sword or something.

The favorite terrain thingie boosts perception and ticks up two each time like favorite enemy and Inquisitors get perception free per level/2. Plus Linzi has 10 base wis I think so she a solid enough helper but not much of a perception specialist.

 

[Desiderius]

Taking down the Big Bads (like the Dragon) with nothing but Maximized Enervation/Energy Drain is a pretty sweet concept, but is often derailed by the fact their Touch ACs are high enough that your clumsy fuck of a caster won't be able to hit 100% of the time even with True Strike. Tried it against Nyrissa in the last playthrough, between missing the Touch attack and SR, it wasn't nearly as effective as I had hoped.

The artisan masterpiece gives you +4 to hit with rays, plus there are some gloves from depths that give all ranged attacks + 4. I’d recommend debilitating strike too but I’d get excommunicated.

 

[Desiderius]

For all the new toys and old toys which trivialize many things and change endgame loadouts like stackable penalties bonuses drains procs and such (I ended with divine damage shortsword for Jaethal since it cancels any resists for her sneak attacks and Obliteration + Dimension Strike + Power Attack for Reg for now),

there are still no good longswords.

Supposed to be a support class? WTF does that even mean?

means u get 1-shot randomly in half of battles if you run around with your sword and shield on Unfair anyway and it might be better to use weapon that complements party and combos with other characters, preferably reach one.

The math is a little tricky but my intuition is that brilliant inspiration

since game doesn't actually show re-rolls in combat log I don't trust neither it or Luck domain tbh

Yeah, totally agree. I reported it as a bug on Touch of Luck and of course never heard anything. I’ve reported like seven different bugs (Archeologists Luck not lingering, Endurance not boosting Athletics, etc..) and nothing fixed yet. Will say have yet to encounter anything game breaking.

I may wait until I hear something definitive on rerolls before testing this build with a full play through since the early Inspiration is a big draw. May combine with a Guardian splash to test Bodyguard and In Harm’s Way since that’s another STR build that needs some DEX. Or if Inspiration is good enough may have to swallow my pride and just go regular Cleric with no bash to get more casts.

I play hard and test builds on unfair. You’re not tanking with the bash build until endgame, if then (no image), but off-tanking is fine by midgame once Vestment hits two and Barkskin four and you start see some decent shields (I.e. focus on getting the shield artisans unlocked) in a way it isn’t with just a two-hander who really needs reach. If shield Vestment weren’t bugged it wouldn’t even be controversial.

 

[Desiderius]

So, yeah, why not?
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd....164/BD4AE90B2EBB26672A36E25E522B1B814195B87C/

One more if I had access to full power Barkskin. Not sure if it should stack with Transformation though, so meh. Should be good enough

Btw. I've realized I must have respecced him wrong some time ago - to regular Monk instead of Traditional. Well, that will have to do, as I don't feel like redoing his levels again.

Earth’s Children boots can help you cheat on Barkskin.

 

[Shadenuat]

If Vestment on Shield wasn't bugged it would be helpful but then penalty for TWF with Shields also shouldn't be bugged as now I think you get -2 for Light and -2 for Heavy, and you should get -4 for Heavy afaik + there is some retarded stacking where your left hand in the end is +10 better than right one.

And no artisan shield is a special bashing shield, arguably most useful one early is Blessed Defence but if you're a Cleric you can cast this better already when you get it (even 1st level Cleric spell will give you +3).

This is why all Shield Bashers I ran were classes with special bonuses to damage, like Paladin, Ranger or Slayer. A Ranger shield basher can, actually, one round a Monarch + lead blades etc. since you end up with like +50 to hit while TWFing.

 

[Desiderius]

If Vestment on Shield wasn't bugged it would be helpful but then penalty for TWF with Shields also shouldn't be bugged as now I think you get -2 for Light and -2 for Heavy, and you should get -4 for Heavy afaik + there is some retarded stacking where your left hand in the end is +10 better than right one.

And no artisan shield is a special bashing shield, arguably most useful one early is Blessed Defence but if you're a Cleric you can cast this better already when you get it (even 1st level Cleric spell will give you +3).

This is why all Shield Bashers I ran were classes with special bonuses to damage, like Paladin, Ranger or Slayer. A Ranger shield basher can, actually, one round a Monarch + lead blades etc. since you end up with like +50 to hit while TWFing.

I was doing high 30s thru 15 DR with bashing the +3 Heavy Shield that gives you extra speed. I like keeping my toons fast since I use charge to move a lot and speed increases it’s range. No problems hitting - shield mastery was giving +7 to hit on that shield. Was trying to upload a pic but it says that the file size is too big. Is there a way to fix that?

There is supposedly a bashing artisan shield that was on a list I trust. Something like “counts as three sizes larger for bashing.” I’ll ask for for it and try to get it to spawn.

 

[Desiderius]

If Vestment on Shield wasn't bugged it would be helpful but then penalty for TWF with Shields also shouldn't be bugged as now I think you get -2 for Light and -2 for Heavy, and you should get -4 for Heavy afaik + there is some retarded stacking where your left hand in the end is +10 better than right one.

And no artisan shield is a special bashing shield, arguably most useful one early is Blessed Defence but if you're a Cleric you can cast this better already when you get it (even 1st level Cleric spell will give you +3).

This is why all Shield Bashers I ran were classes with special bonuses to damage, like Paladin, Ranger or Slayer. A Ranger shield basher can, actually, one round a Monarch + lead blades etc. since you end up with like +50 to hit while TWFing.

Yeah, bonuses like Divine Power which is luck so stacks and gives you damage and strength and an extra full attack and scales with level. Divine Favor isn’t as strong but it adds up for a level one spell.

 

[amurath]

Yeah, you pretty much need to use Obliteration to take down the Spawn on Unfair with a melee build like Haplo's bite/trip vivi. On the other hand, a well-built sword saint has no problem soloing the Spawn on Unfair: https://old.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/comments/cikbbx/spawn_of_rovagug_unfair_solo/

 

[Shadenuat]

Full AT can probably melt him as well. Taking Spell Spec in Hellfire Ray and taking a few extra levels with sneak damage instead of progressing as Wizard should be enough to remove 1200+ hp at least. Maybe even whole 1600. I only had 2 rays in my Hellfire Ray, level 18 and no full endgame gear. Still removed more than half of its hp and fighters did the rest.

And of course if you like Paladins who are treated poorly in this game this is your place to shine. You'll just pass all saves, ignore its DR, probably hit without any debuffs and will have enough DPS to kill boss in just a few rounds.

 

[Desiderius]

Full AT can probably melt him as well. Taking Spell Spec in Hellfire Ray and taking a few extra levels with sneak damage instead of progressing as Wizard should be enough to remove 1200+ hp at least. Maybe even whole 1600. I only had 2 rays in my Hellfire Ray, level 18 and no full endgame gear. Still removed more than half of its hp and fighters did the rest.

And of course if you like Paladins who are treated poorly in this game this is your place to shine. You'll just pass all saves, ignore its DR, probably hit without any debuffs and will have enough DPS to kill boss in just a few rounds.

My Pal MC has been gold when I’ve needed her most. Toe to toe with Ithulliak knocking some sense into the sumbitch. The most low maintenance class there is. Just went Scaled Fist at 18 to shore up touch for the home stretch.

 

[Shadenuat]

Maybe someone will need this for item duping or using editor.

Xelliren items for harem ending

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RivelsLullaby_Item 79fcb294a06f34b4bb68c97c14ab031d

Duo_Item1 7bae9e6a955c00247a8f3f28dca6f627

Duo_Item2 647532ce4db10de41b0fe6620d6d6177

GodEmperor_FinalItem 2f7822fc97296d6418e757fa9a35aa65

 

[Cael]

Last night my +52 to hit (thx to Smite Evil) Pal was duking it out with a 60AC dragon. Octavia got through his 32 spell resistance thx to her Greater Spell Penetration feats and equipment to land a Chains of Light. It only stuck for a round but it was enough. After dispatching fifteen level ten slaves who were harassing my casters with a 45DC Dazzling Display of her Thug life Dueling Sword (aptly named Menace) Linzi got in there using its Brilliant Energy to land the killing blow on the Dragon. Harrim aptly gave the Dragon the finger, Valerie shook all the bad guys up with her Dirge, and Okbo couldn’t figure out his pathing as usual.

And there are no power creep on 3.5???

IMG took from an video "Neverwinter Nights 1 Dragon Force Druid Build" at 32:30

32 SR for very old dragons is not high. We are talking about dragons
And +hit, you are musticlassing and probably not using an RP build

Level 40. Yeah. I thought so. Seriously, dude, you have no idea what you are talking about, as usual.

 

[Shadenuat]

she did it fucking again

Spoiler

it's fate, Jaethal is best companion.
dragon just sorta died on magma and skellingtons. maybe if devs also added a pair of beholders to the fight, a lich, a vampire lord some assassins and 25 level wizard it would have been properly difficult.

our reward

Spoiler

rating it meh out of meh. considering what is stated as immunities like cloak or mind blank didn't work against boss himself what use can it even be? + Wild Hunt have good will.
but I guess resist crits is cool.

 

[Shadenuat]

The favorite terrain thingie boosts perception and ticks up two each time like favorite enemy and Inquisitors get perception free per level/2. Plus Linzi has 10 base wis I think so she a solid enough helper but not much of a perception specialist.

haven't tried it in main campaign but last time I ran ranger in rogue dungeon, favorite terrain didn't apply there as if they forgot to check what kind of terrain dungeon is.
linzi is jack of all trades +1, observer +4 and alertness. Inquisitor bonus is Morale. Of course later you can stack higher and Ekun is probably the best but Linzi is very good spotter as well and buffs everyone else as if they wear eyes of the eagle. And unlike Inquisitor, Bard is actually a great class.
she also likes ice cream so you get both +3 per and +5 for cooking
why can't you marry her I have no idea.

in other news, seems like I am not getting Redeemer even on 4th playthrough

 

[Desiderius]

The favorite terrain thingie boosts perception and ticks up two each time like favorite enemy and Inquisitors get perception free per level/2. Plus Linzi has 10 base wis I think so she a solid enough helper but not much of a perception specialist.

haven't tried it in main campaign but last time I ran ranger in rogue dungeon, favorite terrain didn't apply there as if they forgot to check what kind of terrain dungeon is.
linzi is jack of all trades +1, observer +4 and alertness. Inquisitor bonus is Morale. Of course later you can stack higher and Ekun is probably the best but Linzi is very good spotter as well and buffs everyone else as if they wear eyes of the eagle. And unlike Inquisitor, Bard is actually a great class.
she also likes ice cream so you get both +3 per and +5 for cooking
why can't you marry her I have no idea.

in other news, seems like I am not getting Redeemer even on 4th playthrough

I’ve tried dumping perception on her for Ring of Reckless Courage and it never felt right. Good summary.

Maybe you need to be non-good to get Redeemer? Naz is pretty nasty and the whole point of redemption is needing it.

 

[Desiderius]

Full AT can probably melt him as well. Taking Spell Spec in Hellfire Ray and taking a few extra levels with sneak damage instead of progressing as Wizard should be enough to remove 1200+ hp at least. Maybe even whole 1600. I only had 2 rays in my Hellfire Ray, level 18 and no full endgame gear. Still removed more than half of its hp and fighters did the rest.

And of course if you like Paladins who are treated poorly in this game this is your place to shine. You'll just pass all saves, ignore its DR, probably hit without any debuffs and will have enough DPS to kill boss in just a few rounds.

The Flamewarden (FW12/SS4/TW2) I built for Archangel procs an 8d10 Hellfire Ray on each (17-20 x4) crit using Prehistoric Tooth and has 65 resting AC with image and my crappy gear. Worst lead blade ever.

With 2 Pal levels would the Ray ignore DR?

 

[Desiderius]

Last night my +52 to hit (thx to Smite Evil) Pal was duking it out with a 60AC dragon. Octavia got through his 32 spell resistance thx to her Greater Spell Penetration feats and equipment to land a Chains of Light. It only stuck for a round but it was enough. After dispatching fifteen level ten slaves who were harassing my casters with a 45DC Dazzling Display of her Thug life Dueling Sword (aptly named Menace) Linzi got in there using its Brilliant Energy to land the killing blow on the Dragon. Harrim aptly gave the Dragon the finger, Valerie shook all the bad guys up with her Dirge, and Okbo couldn’t figure out his pathing as usual.

And there are no power creep on 3.5???

IMG took from an video "Neverwinter Nights 1 Dragon Force Druid Build" at 32:30

32 SR for very old dragons is not high. We are talking about dragons
And +hit, you are musticlassing and probably not using an RP build

Nope, just a lil old Hospitaler with all the Charisma in the world with help from her little more chaotic Bard and Freebooter buddies.

Harrim gives her some flanking advice pre-battle and gives the Dragon the finger of Unmaking in battle, Val Inspires her Courage, Linzi Outflanks after using her Cloak of Prayer and scaring off the slaves, Ekun issued an Inspiring Command, and my MC Smites the living shit out of that evil.

If Ekun still had Guarded Hearth it would be +56, but he went off and splashed two levels of Eldritch Archer so had to be sent to the tutor. Now Okbo has his proper levels but he’s a dog with no name. Kinda sad.

 

[Shadenuat]

With 2 Pal levels would the Ray ignore DR?

Nah I don't think it does anything to elemental resists or immunities even for touch attacks. It does add your level to damage but it's doubtful you'll get much out of it. It is a cheap way of increasing your chances to land touch spell and get some saves, which is why I mix Scion with Paladin all the time although Paladin might as well not be there.

 

[Lambach]

There might be a bug still with Kingdom Management, or I don't remember correctly how things went with my last playthrough.

I assigned an Advisor to the project of upgrading a Village to a Town, but the project itself finished as I was battling through Vordakai's Tomb, so I didn't pick a Village to upgrade. Right after taking Vordakai down, I gained Varnhold and now I don't even have an option to upgrade a Village, meaning I'm stuck with not having a City until I annex another 2-3 regions and get another Town.

In my last playthrough, I swear I actually had 3 Towns (Capital + upgraded Village + Varnhold) before being coronated, but now I'm stuck at 2 (Capital + Varnhold).

Am I going crazy or is this a bug?

 

[Cyberarmy]

Am I going crazy or is this a bug?

You need to have at least 6 building in your towns for upgrade, one of your towns lacking structures probably.

 

[entr0py]

she did it fucking again

Spoiler

it's fate, Jaethal is best companion.
dragon just sorta died on magma and skellingtons. maybe if devs also added a pair of beholders to the fight, a lich, a vampire lord some assassins and 25 level wizard it would have been properly difficult.

our reward

Spoiler

rating it meh out of meh. considering what is stated as immunities like cloak or mind blank didn't work against boss himself what use can it even be? + Wild Hunt have good will.
but I guess resist crits is cool.

How did you get to fight both Xelliren and the Spawn? You have to have all the hidden items to spawn the fight correctly? When I killed the Spawn of Rovagug it was just him, and when I went back to the dragon he said its cool that he is dead but thats still not enough, thanks for nothing.

 

[Lambach]

You need to have at least 6 building in your towns for upgrade, one of your towns lacking structures probably.

All of 'em have 10... Except for Capital (20) and Varnhold (18).