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Well, wait till you get to the Pitax Tavern. And Middle of Nowhere location. Prepare to be amazed.
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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat
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Well, wait till you get to the Pitax Tavern. And Middle of Nowhere location. Prepare to be amazed.
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It certainly is NOT the same. The Flamewarden ability wastes its timer between combats. Meanwhile Barb Rage (and Bard songs) are only active during actual combat rounds. You can even delay triggering it while you buff/mark enemies/do other stuff. So in practice those 30++ Rage rounds will work much better for you, then 8 uses of a 1 minute ability.
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Glad its working out for you. Freebooter is a great class, if not necessarily main character material for me.
Personally not a fan of Glaives, though. Too few crits. Methinks you may need to get a hold of the Serpent Prince Fauchard.
Max level I got to btw is 19 in 6 ppl party (pitax checks and siroket passed). But I missed at minimum Valerie quest line since I just killed paladins cause fuck them. Was about 2/3 to 20 during final fight. That's why I am missing ~15 damage from Wail of Banshee as I am missing 1 level from AT and 1 from not being level 20. As necro you actually want to stay pure and not engage into sneak since sneak is +1d6 but level is +10 for both Finger and Wail. Maximum will be around 410-415 due to random rolls on sneak.
This is enough to one-shot Unfair Wild Hunt.
The DC is also pretty ridicilous - in fact i'd say it's higher than Evocation (or close if you use rod and Fiery Body which provides +1 to fire spells). That is because cloak, rod +2 etc. stack it close to 40. And necro is a lot easier to stack because you get rod of fear and cloak of sold souls fairly early. I wasn't even evil to use Profane staff and due to Frightening Aspect WH would only pass against necromancy on 19 or 20 or so.
well actually i guess it's same since you can take elemental focus fire. But fire gets cut by resists way too often. Finger of Death, on the other hand, works perfectly fine on almost anything but rare instance of death magic immunity (like Vildaravns), one-shotting fey, will o wisps, all that annoying garbage immune to elements or having high reflex, etc. and you don't even need much preparation or rushing in to cast your stormbolts through rod - a simple empower and invis works just fine.
and of course, necromancy banhammers 2 worst schools while keeping best ones so I did have my Stormbolts, Hellfire ray, and applied them when needed. I'd say for arcane casters, evil necromancer/at is at fine place and provides fun playthrough till the end.
This is enough to one-shot Unfair Wild Hunt.
The DC is also pretty ridicilous - in fact i'd say it's higher than Evocation (or close if you use rod and Fiery Body which provides +1 to fire spells). That is because cloak, rod +2 etc. stack it close to 40. And necro is a lot easier to stack because you get rod of fear and cloak of sold souls fairly early. I wasn't even evil to use Profane staff and due to Frightening Aspect WH would only pass against necromancy on 19 or 20 or so.
well actually i guess it's same since you can take elemental focus fire. But fire gets cut by resists way too often. Finger of Death, on the other hand, works perfectly fine on almost anything but rare instance of death magic immunity (like Vildaravns), one-shotting fey, will o wisps, all that annoying garbage immune to elements or having high reflex, etc. and you don't even need much preparation or rushing in to cast your stormbolts through rod - a simple empower and invis works just fine.
and of course, necromancy banhammers 2 worst schools while keeping best ones so I did have my Stormbolts, Hellfire ray, and applied them when needed. I'd say for arcane casters, evil necromancer/at is at fine place and provides fun playthrough till the end.
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Lambach
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Yup, the XP rewards for skill checks were batshit insane at later parts in the release version, but instead of nerfing those and increasing rewards for monsters and quests, they introduced more uber high skill checks. You'll be able to get even more XP than that in total in Pitax tavern if you beat all Diplomacy/Intimidate checks.
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That's because you didn't use the "Only skill user gets experience from skills" - at least in Pitax tavern and Middle of Nowhere.
I used this option throughout the game and was level 20 in full 6-man party before Pitax Palace. In HatEoT the rest of the party level-matches the main character anyway when they rejoin.
Obviously, cause I do not use degenerate things. that was the playthrough rule, I didn't even pick fast bombs until very end of the game or deadly earth etc.
btw while kinetics are broken as fug at least in TB mode they only do 2-3 times less spike damage than AT because damage doesn't tick so quickly - you only get 1 tick per turn and it ticks on every kinetic new turn.
of course they are still broken but RTwP is what makes them truly broken. their damage should be literally cut in half in real time.
btw while kinetics are broken as fug at least in TB mode they only do 2-3 times less spike damage than AT because damage doesn't tick so quickly - you only get 1 tick per turn and it ticks on every kinetic new turn.
of course they are still broken but RTwP is what makes them truly broken. their damage should be literally cut in half in real time.
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Thank you for the praise.
Yeah, Sword Saints are the best tanks in the game and, at the same time, also heavy damage-dealers and boss (single target) killers (need some luck with crits for it to actually be 1HKO, though).
At the same time, other classes bring other great stuff to the table. Casters can Crowd Control and also, if built properly, one-shot crowds, like Shadenaut has shown.
Vital Strike is cool and provides some cool vow moments when the stars align and you crit at the right time, but its certainly not the best Standard action a character can make.
This is particularly apparent in the Turn Based mod, where Standard actions really matter (and full attacks matter less - unless ranged).
Many spells can often be more potent. Against a nice group, Great Cleave can be very nice. Kineticist Blade Whirlwind is made of pure win.
Lastly barbarian Pounce Charge can often be a more damaging option.
Plus there's the whole support and party play angle other classes bring to the table (like the Freebooter or Bard).
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Is there any mod/editor to make the LG monk robe accessible to evil characters?
And bosses.
I mean, with Hellfire ray we're looking at what, 45*6x1.5+sneak and quickened with just level 6 rod that's 1000 damage/turn without extra dice damage from evoker or robe.
Sykar
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Iirc you can stack it to like 13? 5 higher than the average barbarian. Is that really worth it?
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Well, its 10 more at level 20, actually. Plus 3 DR Rage Powers for a total of 16. And I believe armor DR also stacks, so something like 20 is possible, I think.
If you can also get 50% Fortification (for example from 4 Vivi with 2x Preserve Organs) and 18 DR, it could be decently durable.
Would I want to rely on it? Well, probably not. But its not very bad, I guess.
If you can also get 50% Fortification (for example from 4 Vivi with 2x Preserve Organs) and 18 DR, it could be decently durable.
Would I want to rely on it? Well, probably not. But its not very bad, I guess.
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Yeah, of course, they can snipe bosses too. Sometimes that Quicken would be better served for True Strike, though.
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That DR would keep you in battle in combination with decent armor class about as long as standard high AC characters. It does not change much vs 120 damage crits from undead giants but works vs everything else. Also it works well in combination with high life a barbarian can achieve.
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Just wait until you get to the port.
She’s only lvl 11 there Hap. MC is good for have to have classes since it gives you more flexibility to slot companions in and out. Reg is along for that pic because his Technic cave is nearby, for instance.
She doesn’t want an exotic because she already has martial proficiency and wants to use all the bane weapons instead. Her default is glaive because she has great cleave and combat reflexes.
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It beats a standard attack, and by enough when leaded and enlarged that it’s worth it. She has great cleave too. And dreadful carnage. At level eleven.
Rangers can get it done.
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If you stack it right ends up cancelling a good bit of the double damage from unfair, and when it doesn’t you can burn some other resources. This game is about making regular fights smooth since there are so many.
Meh. I like having better companions for the rest of the game. I’m done gaming experience by level three.
skaraher
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On my paladin playthrough i reached level 20 just after killing the forefather, so just before final vignette. Did all armag and pitax checks and tenebrous depths, skipped a lot of random encounters but not sure they would have made a difference as XP is exponential.
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They were usually ~1 to 1,5 level behind until Pitax. Hardly a major difference.
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The poison monsters
Yeah, I followed the discussion and your build seems to working fine for you even though it is not my cup of tea, I personally would feel somewhat underwhelming to give the best 1-handed weapon to divine caster with lower BAB but I'm happy you enjoy it mate
(btw how do you guys post screenshots it doesnt seem to work for me, either by embedding or copying....)
Two reasons:
(1) Martial weapon proficiency classes can use martial weapons. The second most scarce resource in this game is feats (the first is levels, which is why vivi splash is hot garbage - stats are cheap), so I save exotics for non-martials who need them, which leads into the second point...
(3) Every toon needs to carry their weight in regular (not per rest) damage dealing. My builds use team synergy to minimize rest, both to keep up food buffs and to maximize kingdom performance over the course of the game.
7 attacks at +50 to hit is plenty of BAB.
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It’s enough to be annoying. Every level in this game is gold - it’s what makes it a great game. I’m about team stuff, not soloing with five nose-pickers.
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In general I don’t disagree - Flamewarden ability is borked, but rage isn’t so hot either. Bard songs have lingering. I’m done with rage and steadfast stance. Way too short for what you get.
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And willingly miss out on team-wide bonuses from Reckless Stance stackable with Bard Song? Rage is even easier to manage than Bards - it is switched off when fight is over and with Heart of Ira could be left on auto-cast without any need for micro-ing it. With most fights being 1-2 turns long at levels 10+ it will last for whole floors in the dungeons.
AC penalty could be big no for some, but I've never cared about AC even on Unfair.
AC penalty could be big no for some, but I've never cared about AC even on Unfair.
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Sounds like something I’ll need to try. I’ve tried every other build on Amiri but Barb.
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