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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

Yosharian

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You are skipping over a ton of spells and buffs on the Sorc side of things such as being able to polymorph your pet into a dragon. Also the fact that having useful spell like sirrocco or baleful polymorph on sorc side lets you prepare other useful things on the druid side.

The theurge one is superior. You get better buffs for your pet, radically better personal buffs and twice the nukes/cc
Mm I think only Alchemists can polymorph/transformation pets.

What buffs do you skip? Feyspeaker can dabble into Illusions, and mostly what Arcane contributes to pet is Mage Armor & Haste (although there's stuff like Heroism I guess). I guess if you refuse to use any other Arcane caster, or solo, you might want to take it, but usually you have other characters for this (Alchemist, for example, can cast Shield on pet and also Haste, and buff pet with illusion spells).

That's kinda the thing with the Druid; he doesn't have a lot of useful things "on the other side". Like, Baleful Poli, Vinetrap + pet buff are best picks for him on lvl 5, so is control spells on other levels. Druid spell selection is fairly basic, which is why you want to get the best stuff as high level as possible quickly.
Yeah I wasn't impressed with the lower level spells at all. Legendary Proportions, Seamantle and Frightful Aspect are really nice.
 

Desiderius

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The mobs don't matter in a tanking test, ok buddy

Yes. Obv. When you have a detailed combat log they don't.

Alright. What would you like me to tank so you can pretend to not understand that either.
 
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Shadenuat

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:lol:

would be 2d mod I be in then.

P.S. No not troll; make it something truly PnP level 13 years old stupid, like half dragon half vampire, 2000 old, but looks like anime girl.
 

Pink Eye

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I'm very into cock and ball torture
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Efe

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you sir have an absolutely shit of a taste in music.
i never expected someone that could enjoy kingmaker to be listening to rap, hiphop or whatever that was...
 

ArchAngel

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A properly built Mystic Theurge is very strong, you can get a ton of extra spells and diversity and only lose a few high level spells. I can't remember the details of a solo build i had specced out and played a bit but I think was something like Sylvan Sorc/feyspekaer druid
I tried that char.
I mean, if you just want to cast Sirocco and have a pet, single class Druid does it with more DC and earlier. And then how many degenerate siroccos you really need? Considering Druid also has stuff like Obsidian flow etc.

You are skipping over a ton of spells and buffs on the Sorc side of things such as being able to polymorph your pet into a dragon. Also the fact that having useful spell like sirrocco or baleful polymorph on sorc side lets you prepare other useful things on the druid side.

The theurge one is superior. You get better buffs for your pet, radically better personal buffs and twice the nukes/cc
It might be debated about his usefulness at lvl 20 compared to straight druid or pet sorcerer. But during the game all it is superior at is being late in caster level and useful spells. Good luck passing SR checks and having good spells when you can most use them.. This build can only be useful in solo play and if you use XP sharing off so your solo character overlevels all content. And I played one such druid with a pet. In the end I buffed my pet and let him murder everything and just healed him. Got boring fast as my character was just a buff bot for a fucking animal (btw pets are broken in this game, way more powerful than they should be and any build depending on them is as broken as Deadly Earth builds and the guy boasting about using them should be taken behind the shed and shot).
 

Desiderius

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Okay, AA, do you think Ariana Grande has a keen appreciation for art? Could she Fascinate a dungeon full of Trolls?

Val starts out a thug and eventually ends up a thug who's learned to be nice while following orders and looking up to her Monarch. Doesn't mean she can't seduce, frighten, or befuddle mobs. And Beauty famously Inspires Courage, Greatness, and Heroics, quite apart from character.
 

Desiderius

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