Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[NJClaw]

Yeah, sure, the spider swarm is made up of diminutive creatures, so it should be immune to weapon damage. I thought you were talking about swarms in general.

 

[Shadenuat]

In general I just think that hard counter enemy should be beaten by a hard counter, there is no reason to ramp up its base stats as well.

 

[Desiderius]

Give link to this "big debate" in favor of weapons. Casters have horrible bab and ranged touch spells target touch AC.

Lvl 11 AT:

Fish in a barrel. Read the comment you're responding to for God's sake.

I'll have some nice pure caster with a bow shots here in a week or two. It's not even a close debate.

 

[DalekFlay]

Spider Swarm encounter in Fangberry cave, Enhanced edition, playing for the first time:

- Amiri throws Alchemist Fire: miss
- N'Ashtar casts Acid Splash: miss
- Linzi throws Alchemist Fire: miss
- Harrim throws Alchemist Fire: miss

Such a magnificent encounter design.

I had Linzi throw them all and I'm pretty sure 100% of them hit.

 

[Haplo]

Give link to this "big debate" in favor of weapons. Casters have horrible bab and ranged touch spells target touch AC.

Fish in a barrel. Read the comment you're responding to for God's sake.

I'll have some nice pure caster with a bow shots here in a week or two. It's not even a close debate.

Oh joy. A typical AT will hit his 2nd weapon attack at like level 12. By that time you'll be close to the Surprise spells capstone. I suppose you can burn some FEATS to get moar attacks (at lowered AB, though... plus the Multishot one can't even add sneak dice).

A terrible investment IMO.

Btw. nice to see you again, Desiderius.

 

[Shadenuat]

Death from Afar is such a cheaty item. +4 char levels of stackabe ab lmao.

 

[Seari]

Give link to this "big debate" in favor of weapons. Casters have horrible bab and ranged touch spells target touch AC.

Lvl 11 AT:

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Fish in a barrel. Read the comment you're responding to for God's sake.

I'll have some nice pure caster with a bow shots here in a week or two. It's not even a close debate.

You sure like posting gimpy builds that get uber buffs to be able to hit a fish in a barrel. Like making a 9 STR character melee.

 

[Shadenuat]

It is a fine way to play as any. If anything power through party composition should be rewarded more than vivi dips.

 

[Efe]

i thought you were making octavia pure caster this time?

 

[Tytus]

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...s-a-minor-offense.78755/page-704#post-6567283

If anyone here is interested.

 

[Desiderius]

Btw. nice to see you again, Desiderius.

You too Hap. This:

is so cool.

i thought you were making octavia pure caster this time?

I am. The second dude at Steam I argued with came around to my point on using weapons over cantrips (basically you want iteratives when you've got 10d6 attached to them all and to hit is like water in this game if you know where to look) but insisted that you could still do it as pure AT with only one level of Rogue, so that's what I'm currently testing. Not expecting to start using weapons until I hit 6 BAB for 4 attacks (haste + rapid + main + iterative) at lvl, what, 13? Might try it at Rapid + Haste, we'll see. Snowball wand is a good one for Ch. 1.

Pic against the Roc was Rogue4/Wizard3/AT4 I think.

 

[Desiderius]

It is a fine way to play as any. If anything power through party composition should be rewarded more than vivi dips.

It is x10. I'm not a power gamer. I stumbled onto something more powerful than what the munchkins are doing. Stacking group buffs are OP. Who knew?

 

[Desiderius]

Death from Afar is such a cheaty item. +4 char levels of stackabe ab lmao.

There's 70-80ish AB out there to be had if you really want to work at it. The alternatives in that slot from artisans are pretty nuts too so the opportunity cost is high as well.

 

[Desiderius]

You sure like posting gimpy builds that get uber buffs to be able to hit a fish in a barrel. Like making a 9 STR character melee.

Archon's Aura and Frightful Aspect aren't gimpy, they're borderline broken. Only Tristian and Harrim have those (and now Feyspeaker Val will have Aspect + Smilodon form which will be fun).

You round off Tristian's 9 to 10 and you're -3 AB/-3 damage vs Amiri's 16 base Strength which isn't that much when you've got +46 AB and doing 50-500 damage (high end once the Vital Strikes kick in).

 

[Nerevar]

Legitimately enjoying the interaction between Jaethal and Jubilost. Usually Jaethal can roast the other henchmen without mercy but when she tries to flame Jubilost it just doesn't work out because he's too well spoken and intelligent.

They really redeem the lackluster cast of henchmen.

When do dex classes catch up to TSS fighters in terms of tanking? Next play through I might do something like monk plus kensai or duelist.

 

[Pink Eye]

>When do dex classes catch up to TSS fighters in terms of tanking?
Depends on your build optimization. What is your DEX build for tanking?

 

[Shadenuat]

When do dex classes catch up to TSS fighters in terms of tanking?

on level 1.

 

[Mexi]

Legitimately enjoying the interaction between Jaethal and Jubilost. Usually Jaethal can roast the other henchmen without mercy but when she tries to flame Jubilost it just doesn't work out because he's too well spoken and intelligent.

They really redeem the lackluster cast of henchmen.

When do dex classes catch up to TSS fighters in terms of tanking? Next play through I might do something like monk plus kensai or duelist.

The banter between camping is usually stupid shit. Makes me intrigued to hear, though. Jaethal is like a budget Morrigan. I find her boring, and I don't really use her.

Anyways, last banter I remember was Octavia, Regongar, and that whip. Octavia is a fucking gross thot.

 

[Nerevar]

The banter between camping is usually stupid shit. Makes me intrigued to hear, though. Jaethal is like a budget Morrigan. I find her boring, and I don't really use her.

Anyways, last banter I remember was Octavia, Regongar, and that whip. Octavia is a fucking gross thot.

Yeah Octavia and Regongar are garbage written to appeal to the SJW faggot soyboy crowd "whores and cuckolds can be real people too!" even though their personalities don't match up with their alignments or anything else about them. Literally living contradictions.

I never really drew a comparison between Jaethal and Morrigan maybe because Morrigan has more dimension to her character, discovering she's actually a nice person and has feelings ECT. whereas Jaethal is just "total fucking edgopath" the whole time.

I like Jaethal because she realizes that the rest of the henchmen are pretty garbage and just tries to mind fuck them and disrespect them but Jubilost (I missed him on my first playthrough) is too much of a big brain for that to work.

 

[Delterius]

Literally living contradictions.

sounds like they are like real human beings

 

[LannTheStupid]

Yeah Octavia and Regongar are garbage written to appeal to the SJW faggot soyboy crowd "whores and cuckolds can be real people too!"

Damn, I'm out of my soy milk and tofu!

 

[Nerevar]

sounds like they are like real human beings

There is a difference between having believable character flaws and being a second life character mary sue that manages to function normally no matter how much retarded shit they tack on to the character.

There are better written characters in harry potter fanfiction.

 

[Desiderius]

The banter between camping.

I'm going on two thousand hours and have yet to hear the same banter twice. It's unreal how many there are.

 

[Mexi]

The banter between camping.

I'm going on two thousand hours and have yet to hear the same banter twice. It's unreal how many there are.

Kind of weird. I cleared the map and took several breaks in Act 1 where you finish the fort and have to leave for the Aldori manor. I had to restart because I found one cave that was difficult as fuck to clear, the Boggard Champion's cave. Anyways, I restarted and heard the same banter over and over. Maybe it is linked with acts or something? Either way, I found the Dragon Age: Origins banter to be better. It actually had some funny moments. The banter in Pathfinder is just boring shit; although, I only ever use Ocatavia, Regongar, Linzi, Amiri, and Valerie. The thing is I'm not expecting improvements with boring ass Harrim, Ekundayo, or Tristan.

 

[Nerevar]

Me and the squad getting ready to head to Varnshold.

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Also on my 2nd playthrough I'd really like to curbstomp this treacherous snake scumbag. BRB killing thousands of people even though you're supposed to be a Good aligned cleric and have WIS to be able to make wise decisions on things.

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PS: I'm not actually the tank I just swapped places with Val for the photo.