Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

guys are there any good long swords in this game? cant seem to find any

Yes. Too many.
>cant seem to find any
Try exploring side areas on the world map. Game tends to reward the player with good loot through exploration.

No this is backwards. You get good loot via developing your Artisans and Ranking up your Kingdom. Artisan tiers go by Kingdom rank. The one who does Longswords is in the Kamelands. She makes stuff like this:

There's a Keen +1 in the Troll Dungeon that is good enough to last you for awhile. Unless you're a Sword Saint there's no real reason to restrict yourself to one weapon though.

 

[Desiderius]

We don't use the T word around these parts.

Speak for yourself. Everyone can use a little Good Touch now and again.

But keep telling yourself its crucial to have 20 STR on your Fighter.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Anyone can be a good fighter with a reach weapon. Pink Eye had Harrim as the main damage dealer in his Unfair monk shenanigans.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Anyone can be a good fighter with a reach weapon. Pink Eye had Harrim as the main damage dealer in his Unfair monk shenanigans.

Harrim with a reach weapon is just a humie without a reach weapon.

 

[Desiderius]

I don't get the Harrim with Reach thing. You're wasting half his build. He belongs at the front.

 

[Parabalus]

If you choose Vordakai, do you just miss out on all the imported Varnhold's Lot items?

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

I used Harrim as a tank on my first play though. He was acceptable in the role. If you have him in the back line, he won't get to use Touch of Chaos. It's a good setup for a "save or lose" spell on a VIP. As a personality, not worth it. Tristian was surprisingly far more tolerable and useful. Touch of Good saves you from a lot of grief, and gentle repose is nice for an OOPS. Having him actually be decent at channeling really helped with attrition and extending the adventuring day too. I still wonder if I should have made him a mystic theurge though. I did not have much use for the higher tier clerical spells.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Please suggest some good balance of difficulty settings. Normal is too easy, especially now in turn based mode. I have all damage set to normal values, reduced critical damage on party is on, and no bonuses to enemy ability scores. What should I bump.

I'm not even trying to optimize, multiclass or anything. My main char is a pure rogue - no munchkinisms.

 

[Parabalus]

Please suggest some good balance of difficulty settings. Normal is too easy, especially now in turn based mode. I have all damage set to normal values, reduced critical damage on party is on, and no bonuses to enemy ability scores. What should I bump.

I'm not even trying to optimize, multiclass or anything. My main char is a pure rogue - no munchkinisms.

Why not just bump straight to Challenging?

Maybe without the speed and retrain stuff.

 

[AwesomeButton]

That's the obvious thing to do, but I thought there may be a consensus on a mix of settings. In case some settings from Challenging are difficult in a wrong way or go too far.

 

[Xamenos]

Please suggest some good balance of difficulty settings. Normal is too easy, especially now in turn based mode. I have all damage set to normal values, reduced critical damage on party is on, and no bonuses to enemy ability scores. What should I bump.

I'm not even trying to optimize, multiclass or anything. My main char is a pure rogue - no munchkinisms.

Challenging with enemy stat adjustment set to none is the closest you can get to Pathfinder core rules. I would recommend just playing on Challenging though.

 

[Desiderius]

Please suggest some good balance of difficulty settings. Normal is too easy, especially now in turn based mode. I have all damage set to normal values, reduced critical damage on party is on, and no bonuses to enemy ability scores. What should I bump.

I'm not even trying to optimize, multiclass or anything. My main char is a pure rogue - no munchkinisms.

Minmax munchkinism in this game ends up making 95% of the people who try it actively worse. If you just play the game straightforwardly as designed and as if everything that should have mattered on previous games (like skill checks and bard songs and careful tactics and managing your Kingdom wisely and the like) actually do matter you’ll find yourself kicking it up to Hard before you know it because you’re doing so well.

On the other hand if you try to take shortcuts you’ll end up butthurt on the Kotex.

 

[Parabalus]

Turn-based really makes the game much easier. Probably by 2 difficulty levels.

 

[Sykar]

Please suggest some good balance of difficulty settings. Normal is too easy, especially now in turn based mode. I have all damage set to normal values, reduced critical damage on party is on, and no bonuses to enemy ability scores. What should I bump.

I'm not even trying to optimize, multiclass or anything. My main char is a pure rogue - no munchkinisms.

Minmax munchkinism in this game ends up making 95% of the people who try it actively worse. If you just play the game straightforward as designed and as if everything that should have mattered on previous games (like skill checks and bard songs and careful tactics and managing your Kingdom wisely and the like) actually do matter you’ll find yourself kicking it up to Hard before you know it because you’re doing so well.

On the other hand if you try to take shortcuts you’ll end up butthurt on the Kotex.

I actually like it that it is more difficult to effectively multiclass in PF.

 

[Nano]

Challenging with enemy stat adjustment set to none is the closest you can get to Pathfinder core rules.

Uh, I'm not a Pathfinder expert, but I thought the closest the game gets to core rules is having everything set to Normal, except for Enemy Difficulty which needs to be set to Weak.

 

[Xamenos]

Challenging with enemy stat adjustment set to none is the closest you can get to Pathfinder core rules.

Uh, I'm not a Pathfinder expert, but I thought the closest the game gets to core rules is having everything set to Normal, except for Enemy Difficulty which needs to be set to Weak.

Off the top of my head, normal has weaker criticals and less damage to the party.

 

[Nano]

Off the top of my head, normal has weaker criticals and less damage to the party.

Yeah, setting criticals to Full and enemy damage to x1.0 is part of what I meant when I said normal, meaning nothing is nerfed except for Enemy Difficulty.

 

[Xamenos]

Off the top of my head, normal has weaker criticals and less damage to the party.

Yeah, setting criticals to Full and enemy damage to x1.0 is part of what I meant when I said normal, meaning nothing is nerfed except for Enemy Difficulty.

That is what challenging does, afaik.

 

[Yosharian]

Please suggest some good balance of difficulty settings. Normal is too easy, especially now in turn based mode. I have all damage set to normal values, reduced critical damage on party is on, and no bonuses to enemy ability scores. What should I bump.

I'm not even trying to optimize, multiclass or anything. My main char is a pure rogue - no munchkinisms.

Personally I'm using Challenging, except with Enemy Stat Adjustments set to Normal Enemies and Enemy Difficulty set to Insane. I'm using this mod to make the Enemy Difficulty setting scale with party level:

https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/193?tab=description

So far I'm finding it quite reasonable, enemies pose a threat but aren't too extreme. The only fight I've been really challenged by so far was Farnirras The Pensive (I was level 11, got him eventually with Icy Prison).

 

[Sykar]

Anyone looking for a new challenge here is an interesting mod that gives old enemies some new abilites, feats and/or spells while also introducing some new enemies. It also does some changes to the AI:
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/216?tab=description

I have not tested it yet but maybe someone might be intruiged.

 

[NJClaw]

Anyone looking for a new challenge here is an interesting mod that gives old enemies some new abilites, feats and/or spells while also introducing some new enemies. It also does some changes to the AI:
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/216?tab=description

I have not tested it yet but maybe someone might be intruiged.

Ah shit, time to play Kingmaker again I guess

 

[AwesomeButton]

Anyone looking for a new challenge here is an interesting mod that gives old enemies some new abilites, feats and/or spells while also introducing some new enemies. It also does some changes to the AI:
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderkingmaker/mods/216?tab=description

I have not tested it yet but maybe someone might be intruiged.

This is made with turn based in mind, I'll install it.

 

[Xamenos]

It also sets enemies so "somewhat stronger" which IIRC gives them +2 AC and attack bonus. "Normal enemies" must be set manually; weirdly enough no predefined difficulty setting does so.

Yes, that is why my original post said

Challenging with enemy stat adjustment set to none is the closest you can get to Pathfinder core rules.

 

[Yosharian]

It's important to draw a distinction between Enemy Stat Adjustments, which purports to alter all DCs in the game and the abilities of enemies (and according to the author of the mod I'm using, does relatively little) and Enemy Difficulty, which gives all enemies ability score boosts as well as improving their AB and AC. Enemy Difficulty is the one that the mod alters by the way, in case you use it. There's some details in the posts section of the mod page.

 

[Xamenos]

It's important to draw a distinction between Enemy Stat Adjustments, which purports to alter all DCs in the game and the abilities of enemies (and according to the author of the mod I'm using, does relatively little) and Enemy Difficulty, which gives all enemies ability score boosts as well as improving their AB and AC. Enemy Difficulty is the one that the mod alters by the way, in case you use it. There's some details in the posts section of the mod page.

I've had this explained to me the last time the topic came up, but I can never remember the difference between the two options or even that there are two options. Is this what age feels like?