Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

Barbs are made to Charge (and eventually Pounce). That extra speed she gets increases her Charge range so she can reach Tart in time. It’s nice design.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Barbs are made to Charge (and eventually Pounce).

Can Amiri Rage and Charge in the same round? Haven't tested yet (and she is Freebooter now anyway).

 

[Desiderius]

Freebooter Amiri still gets enough Rage when she needs it, and she gets that speed at lvl one. Eventually (usually at lvl 12) you want to pick up that second Barb level for Uncanny Dodge and a Rage Power.

Booter 10/Barb 10 gives whole team like +8 AB with Inspire Ferocity and can +3/+3 Bane and Pounce in same turn.

 

[Sjukob]

I'm currently running school savant arcanist, we'll see what happens once I get foretell.

Meh

Spoiler

Why the hell isn't foretell activation a swift action?

 

[Sykar]

I haven't played KM in over a year, should I use Call of the Wild? Because though that mods adds tons of good features it also add lots of third party feats and stuff that's just straight game-breaking.

You can disable his "balance fix" and other features in the mod settings.xml in the game mods folder. Otherwise from what I understand the feat and classes are adapted from PnP, with reasonable implementation adaptation/constraint.

CotW added a lot of stuff which certainly not available for the enemies and so yeah, they will make the games easier. But if you have finished KM before, CotW is breath of fresh air due to sheer amount of toy to play with. The latest version even added Drake Companion and Drake Druid and Shaman archtype. Pretty cool.

My recommendation is to disable traits and the companion classes from the mod.

 

[Haplo]

Lmao Farnirras gets owned by Icy Prison.

Or VineTrap. Or Chains of Light.

When you initially learn these spells, the problem is to actually deal enough damage to kill him at these levels (~11 level).

 

[Yosharian]

Lmao Farnirras gets owned by Icy Prison.

Or VineTrap. Or Chains of Light.

When you initially learn these spells, the problem is to actually deal enough damage to kill him at these levels (~11 level).

Really?? You'll have to go into more detail because once I got him encased in Icy Prison he went down pretty fast to my physical damage dealers. Level 11. He lasted like 2-3 rounds tops.

And that's with Enemy Difficulty set to Insane.

 

[Desiderius]

I'm currently running school savant arcanist, we'll see what happens once I get foretell.

Meh

Spoiler

Why the hell isn't foretell activation a swift action?

Lol because it's already busted in half as it is. You want your I win button gold -plated.

 

[Haplo]

Lmao Farnirras gets owned by Icy Prison.

Or VineTrap. Or Chains of Light.

When you initially learn these spells, the problem is to actually deal enough damage to kill him at these levels (~11 level).

Really?? You'll have to go into more detail because once I got him encased in Icy Prison he went down pretty fast to my physical damage dealers. Level 11. He lasted like 2-3 rounds tops.

And that's with Enemy Difficulty set to Insane.

Interesting. I remember struggling to hit/deal significant damage to him (on Hard). Most damage spells I tried weren't very effective either. Needed to bring TWO clerics casting Blade Barrier on him to deal significant damage (before he breaks free and Wail OHKOs whole party).

 

[Yosharian]

Lmao Farnirras gets owned by Icy Prison.

Or VineTrap. Or Chains of Light.

When you initially learn these spells, the problem is to actually deal enough damage to kill him at these levels (~11 level).

Really?? You'll have to go into more detail because once I got him encased in Icy Prison he went down pretty fast to my physical damage dealers. Level 11. He lasted like 2-3 rounds tops.

And that's with Enemy Difficulty set to Insane.

Interesting. I remember struggling to hit/deal significant damage to him (on Hard). Most damage spells I tried weren't very effective either. Needed to bring TWO clerics casting Blade Barrier on him to deal significant damage (before he breaks free and Wail OHKOs whole party).

It could have something to do with two of my primary damage dealers (MC and archer inquisitor) both having Smite Evil, which of course shits on any damage reduction he might have. I didn't have time to check if he had any DR because as soon as I got him locked down with Icy Prison (which took a while because he kept winning initiative sometimes and then other times he kept rolling 18+ on his Reflex save) he pretty much melted. I seem to remember my Inquisitor doing most of the damage. Bane + Manyshot ftw.

 

[Yosharian]

In other news, I was brainstorming ideas to make Regongar less shit, and came upon an interesting bug. If you take a bloodline with Eldritch Scion and then select a Sorcerer archetype such as Sylvan, you end up with two bloodlines. And they both progress as you level up Sorc.

Could be some interesting shenanigans there.

 

[Sjukob]

How is Regongar bad? Magus in general is a god tier melee class. You can alter his bloodline or something if you don't like it, turn him into sword saint or eldritch scion (bloodrager), which is eldritch scion with bloodrager bloodlines.

I just struggle to think what is the problem with Reg aside from his shitty racial, because magus is only really rivaled by vivisectionist in terms of power.

Of course, it's another thing if you don't want him to be a magus, because you don't feel like playing a magus.

 

[Desiderius]

Vivis suck.

Reg runs circles around Vivis.

 

[Desiderius]

It could have something to do with two of my primary damage dealers (MC and archer inquisitor) both having Smite Evil, which of course shits on any damage reduction he might have. I didn't have time to check if he had any DR because as soon as I got him locked down with Icy Prison (which took a while because he kept winning initiative sometimes and then other times he kept rolling 18+ on his Reflex save) he pretty much melted. I seem to remember my Inquisitor doing most of the damage. Bane + Manyshot ftw.

Huur, durr why don't you NOOBS just use your Holy Reload button?

Savescummers are scum.

 

[Xamenos]

How is Regongar bad?

I bet he's just playing RTwP without pausing, without casting spells in combat, and possibly without buffing as well.

Also,

as soon as I got him locked down with Icy Prison (which took a while because he kept winning initiative sometimes and then other times he kept rolling 18+ on his Reflex save) he pretty much melted.

How many times did you reload that fight before all dice came up in your favor?

edit: Dammit, Desiderius won initiative. I'd better reload.

 

[Desiderius]

Yosh? No Yosh is a good player I think he's just stuck theorycrafting most of the time because of work or something.

 

[Parabalus]

Playing Magus in RTWP is really shitty though, enough of a reason not to use him.

 

[Desiderius]

It really isn't - you just have to understand how Standard and Full Actions work.

 

[Parabalus]

If you autocast touch the character won't move into melee properly on its own, that's enough to be annoying.

 

[Desiderius]

If you autocast touch the character won't move into melee properly on its own, that's enough to be annoying.

Duh, Spellstrike requires a Full Attack and you can't move and Full Attack in the same turn. Are you familiar with the Charge button?

 

[Doktor Best]

So i have returned to the game after taking a break from it and some of my skills prerequisites are highlighted red with an x. For example precise strikes needs dex 13 and a base attack bonus of 1 (my character qualifies for both points). Does that means that those abilities are inactive due to some bug?

 

[Desiderius]

So i have returned to the game after taking a break from it and some of my skills prerequisites are highlighted red with an x. For example precise strikes needs dex 13 and a base attack bonus of 1 (my character qualifies for both points). Does that means that those abilities are inactive due to some bug?

What class?

 

[Doktor Best]

So i have returned to the game after taking a break from it and some of my skills prerequisites are highlighted red with an x. For example precise strikes needs dex 13 and a base attack bonus of 1 (my character qualifies for both points). Does that means that those abilities are inactive due to some bug?

What class?

Deliverer.

I just unequipped my belt and now it says improved two weapon fighting is deactivated, so i guess my skills are active. Its still odd the prerequisites show as not met when they are.

 

[Desiderius]

Deliverer

Jesus. A situational d6 or two even at a level where it's a drop in the bucket and its like a moth to flame.

Prereqs can be fulfilled by equipment but not buffs so that may be affecting it.

 

[Doktor Best]

Deliverer

Jesus. A situational d6 or two even at a level where it's a drop in the bucket and its like a moth to flame.

Prereqs can be fulfilled by equipment but not buffs so that may be affecting it.

All the prereqs beside Improved Two Weapon Fighting are met naturally.

I wanted to respec to typical sword and shield warrior anyways, since i changed group composition and now i lack a tank. I hit a wall in Tenebrous Depths (Wild Hunt Archer group) so ill go back and use that respec NPC.