Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

Go fuck yourself. I was talking about before I knew what I was doing and my head was still messed up by bad InEffective advice. Trying to prevent newer players from going down that rabbit hole.

Even then wasn't trying to solo it the pathing is just weird in that one room. And obv Tristian was lucky to survive.

 

[Desiderius]

You can take out wall archers before that fight.

That's true. Those specific archers are begging to cast some CC/nukes there before moving further.

Pretty sure if you're packing Perception you can just take them out from behind much earlier.

 

[NJClaw]

I can understand where Parabalus is coming from. Obviously it's not the optimal strategy, but sometimes it's simpler to just send your invincible character forward while everyone else wait behind doing nothing. You're basically cheating yourself out of a fun encounter, but at least it works. Sometimes I still do this when I play with my brain turned off and I don't want to think about anything, or when I'm facing certain encounters (the Astradaemon, the nightmare, the golems in Pitax...) while severely underleveled.

 

[Haplo]

Well, rushing enemies solo works particularly well when you're a 19 level SS with Perfect Reflexes. Just sayin.

 

[Yosharian]

I can understand where Parabalus is coming from. Obviously it's not the optimal strategy, but sometimes it's simpler to just send your invincible character forward while everyone else wait behind doing nothing. You're basically cheating yourself out of a fun encounter, but at least it works. Sometimes I still do this when I play with my brain turned off and I don't want to think about anything, or when I'm facing certain encounters (the Astradaemon, the nightmare, the golems in Pitax...) while severely underleveled.

Which Astradaemon? Not the one before Vordakai surely

 

[Yosharian]

Well, rushing enemies solo works particularly well when you're a 19 level SS with Perfect Reflexes. Just sayin.

Yes, rushing in general really destroys challenge in a lot of encounters.

 

[Parabalus]

I can understand where Parabalus is coming from. Obviously it's not the optimal strategy, but sometimes it's simpler to just send your invincible character forward while everyone else wait behind doing nothing. You're basically cheating yourself out of a fun encounter, but at least it works. Sometimes I still do this when I play with my brain turned off and I don't want to think about anything, or when I'm facing certain encounters (the Astradaemon, the nightmare, the golems in Pitax...) while severely underleveled.

Which Astradaemon? Not the one before Vordakai surely

Probably the altar room with a few astradaemons and thantodemons.

 

[Pink Eye]

Well, rushing enemies solo works particularly well when you're a 19 level SS with Perfect Reflexes. Just sayin.

That's funny! You misspelled monks! It's okay. I forgive you with my awkward clunky unarmed animations.

 

[Pink Eye]

Come my brothers. Let me demonstrate to you. The power of awkward clunky unarmed animation monks in Kingmaker. Where we're going. We don't need pants, or weapons - only our awkward fist animations.

 

[Haplo]

Also Haplo you could do more than post your one SS build.

Nearly forgot about this one:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...urn-based-combat.125267/page-752#post-6900924

Guess it counts as 3rd

Even if its a little less munchkin.

 

[Seari]

Every build should have the classes listed at the top ie. Monk 1/SS X.

 

[NJClaw]

Also Haplo you could do more than post your one SS build.

Nearly forgot about this one:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...urn-based-combat.125267/page-752#post-6900924

Guess it counts as 3rd

Even if its a little less munchkin.

I guess I can try to share my OP builds. I'll start with my favorite one:

Paladin 20.
Fuck feats, who cares about them.
Click the Divine Bond button when you enter a big area.
Click the Smite Evil button whenever you feel like it.
Cast Bestow Grace when you see scary enemies.
Cast Archon's Aura when you see too many enemies.

Done.

 

[Desiderius]

Also Haplo you could do more than post your one SS build.

Nearly forgot about this one:
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...urn-based-combat.125267/page-752#post-6900924

Guess it counts as 3rd

Even if its a little less munchkin.

I guess I can try to share my OP builds. I'll start with my favorite one:

Paladin 20.
Fuck feats, who cares about them.
Click the Divine Bond button when you enter a big area.
Click the Smite Evil button whenever you feel like it.
Cast Bestow Grace when you see scary enemies.
Cast Archon's Aura when you see too many enemies.

Done.

Archon’s must be up at all times. Preferably in multiples. Playing in field of suck good times.

 

[Desiderius]

I can understand where Parabalus is coming from. Obviously it's not the optimal strategy, but sometimes it's simpler to just send your invincible character forward while everyone else wait behind doing nothing. You're basically cheating yourself out of a fun encounter, but at least it works. Sometimes I still do this when I play with my brain turned off and I don't want to think about anything, or when I'm facing certain encounters (the Astradaemon, the nightmare, the golems in Pitax...) while severely underleveled.

I find it preferable not to be underleveled/invincible. Often the quest for the latter leaves one the former by gimping your class development with superfluous splashes.

Bring the whole gang and wreck house in a couple rounds. End up with a much more resilient team that is effectively invulnerable thru massive redundancy.

For example in Grenadier MC playthrough, double Displacer Beast Val was two tanks herself who could only be hit on 20, plus Displacement, plus Image on Val, plus Linzi with jacked up Dispel, Greater to get rid of True Seeing. Amiri delaying a turn to avoid aggro with Freebooter’s Bane then Charge but getting Shield from MC so not that easy to hit herself, likewise Tristian with Serpent Prince both two sizes larger, and Jaethal with 50 Perception and five attax for 70 damage at range.

This was all posted real time as it was happening. That playthrough was almost to the Pitax Palace. Was missing a Rez on MC probably should have rolled Chiurgeon. Important thing is Touch/SR bypassing debuffs.

 

[Yosharian]

Lmaooo so I just discovered that the various rod items that grant bonuses to spell DCs... stack with themselves. And it's pitifully easy to obtain multiple copies by just ordering Irlene to make rods and nothing else.

Never change Owlcat

 

[Nano]

Evocation-focused bards are fun.

 

[Erebus]

Having Linzi focus on Evocation is sort of funny. But for a bard MC, it is much classier to follow the example of Lúthien/Orpheus, ie to focus on Enchantment and to suck when it comes to inflicting damage.

 

[Nano]

But for a bard MC, it is much classier to follow the example of Lúthien/Orpheus, ie to focus on Enchantment

Yeah, that's why I'm speccing her into Evocation in the first place.

 

[Yosharian]

Having Linzi focus on Evocation is sort of funny. But for a bard MC, it is much classier to follow the example of Lúthien/Orpheus, ie to focus on Enchantment and to suck when it comes to inflicting damage.

If only one could obtain feats specialising in both Enchantment and Evocation

 

[Desiderius]

Having Linzi focus on Evocation is sort of funny. But for a bard MC, it is much classier to follow the example of Lúthien/Orpheus, ie to focus on Enchantment and to suck when it comes to inflicting damage.

The Evo Bard spells aren't for inflicting damage lol. Think Sirens.

In P:K you kind of want both, but the place where the Evo spells really own you run into more of a Eurydice situation.

 

[The_Mask]

Lindzi is fun to be given all the persuasion feats. Imagine you're just an ugly fuck carrying a cute seal all the time.

NPC: "I DISAGREE WITH YOU, SIR!"

MC: "Ok."

*** produces Lindzi ***

NPC: "Awwwwww..."

MC: "Can I haz nao?"

NPC: "Sure."

 

[Testownia]

I have a question about the resolution to "Troll Troubles" -

Spoiler

can you get both Hargulka and Tartuk as vassals?

 

[Sweeper]

I have a question about the resolution to "Troll Troubles" -

Spoiler

can you get both Hargulka and Tartuk as vassals?

You can get them as vassals?

 

[Xamenos]

I have a question about the resolution to "Troll Troubles" -

Spoiler

can you get both Hargulka and Tartuk as vassals?

Spoiler

No. You can only convince one of them after the other dies.

 

[Desiderius]

I have a question about the resolution to "Troll Troubles" -

Spoiler

can you get both Hargulka and Tartuk as vassals?

Spoiler

No. You can only convince one of them after the other dies.

Spoiler

Pretty sure you can get them both if you're Chaotic. Or at least Harg as vassal and Tart as (late) ally.