Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Angthoron]

for folk that use toybox, im trying to respawn the second random woljif encounter in act 3 with the ritual and the traps with no luck so far. the quest somehow failed after i got the first random encounter, but never got the second despite travelling multiple times between lost chapel-green gates/wintersun.

There's probably multiple triggers for it, filter all "woljif" instances in everything.

Edit: Oh yeah and look for stuff with counters, like Loyalty or Attitude or whatever. You might need to have these counters aligned with the other triggers before the event fires off.

IF i spawn him in drezen and auto complete his quest, will my pc explode?

I suggest making a manual save first, then just go for it.


The lengths I went for to fix all the broken triggers for the secret ending could've broken the game quite easily, and yet it all worked out just fine. That, and getting Trevor into the team because who the hell thought that the right path to save him was to stack victim counters was the right idea?!


You can probably toggle some triggers back off once everything works, too.

 

[Angthoron]

for folk that use toybox, im trying to respawn the second random woljif encounter in act 3 with the ritual and the traps with no luck so far. the quest somehow failed after i got the first random encounter, but never got the second despite travelling multiple times between lost chapel-green gates/wintersun.

There's probably multiple triggers for it, filter all "woljif" instances in everything.

Edit: Oh yeah and look for stuff with counters, like Loyalty or Attitude or whatever. You might need to have these counters aligned with the other triggers before the event fires off.

IF i spawn him in drezen and auto complete his quest, will my pc explode?

Oh yeah, as an alternative if spawning him in Drezen won't work is to try adding him into your party on the overworld map, then entering Drezen, then trying to fire up an event. IIRC that works in some cases.

 

[Desiderius]

Mephisto fight:



Oh yeah, first a shot of the Expose Vulnerability Mythic Ability. Thought it might create another damage packet, but no dice. A slightly better Accomplished Sneak Attack Feat. Badly outclassed. It does pick up Mark of Justice damage so not awful if you're not abusing extra damage packets.



Mephisto does recognize you for rejecting Nocti's Profane Gift. Any idea if this has an effect? Any way to avoid fight without becoming a Devil?



Mehisto has Ascendent Element Fire so laughs at HK Fire Immunity. Reg has a Ring of Evasion but doesn't get a save (look at other characters who Evaded)? Is this due to Immunity that then gets overrided? Mephisto sees my lucky intiative roll and raises it. Looks like this Gaze does nothing. Wipe.

If I were doing Unfair Ironman I might just have to take Devil at this point unless three's some other way to get out of the fight. Enduring, Greater would certainly help but not sure it would be enough. As it is second Tinman death so far.



Second try for some reason he casts suckass Sirocco instead of Fire Snake. Notice all the Lann misses (should have waited for Mark of Justice), this will come up later.

-16 AC from Divine Weapon Bond Brilliant Energy. Mounted Seelah can not do this. Knockback Relic Ring knocked him back, can't tell if he's Prone.



Sos has to burn Standard Action activating Goggles, so only one Dispel but it gets some good ones. Nenio discovers she has no Hellfire Rays memorized. Polar is no save so decent damage.



Finally get the Aeon Bane Dispels on 4th attack and we're in. Bane of Spirit Relic Ring changing all damage to Force bypasses DR 20/- I think.



Cloak DC is bugged but he critically misses it anyway. Cloak is absurd anyway and the one part that sux comes through.



All those misses earlier for Lann pay off with Ranging Shots Mythic. Really need to start turning on Deadly Aim for Lann.



Seelah finishes him off and the million EXP gets team to lvl 20. This is the first time I've seen Knockback ring trigger an AoO. Distracting Shots, Deadeye malus, and the -2 from Big Game Gloves all from Lann. Aru can usually fill this role.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

What's the best mythic for a demonslayer archer build? Azata, Trickster, or Angel?

I used Charisma as a dumpstat, which makes me worried that I won't get much out of Azata's special abilities, which all seem to require Charisma.

 

[sosmoflux]

Is this game good?

 

[Desiderius]

What's the best mythic for a demonslayer archer build? Azata, Trickster, or Angel?

I used Charisma as a dumpstat, which makes me worried that I won't get much out of Azata's special abilities, which all seem to require Charisma.

Aeon

 

[Desiderius]

Welp, Sosiel's Guarded Hearth (modded Capstone lets you pick a Domain at 20 for Cleric) finally showed up:



Not bad for showing up Fatigued.

Also belatedly picked up Last Stand for everybody at Mythic 9. Didn't really need it until that Mephistopheles fight.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

What's the best mythic for a demonslayer archer build? Azata, Trickster, or Angel?

I used Charisma as a dumpstat, which makes me worried that I won't get much out of Azata's special abilities, which all seem to require Charisma.

Aeon

That's not an option.

 

[Haplo]

What's the best mythic for a demonslayer archer build? Azata, Trickster, or Angel?

I used Charisma as a dumpstat, which makes me worried that I won't get much out of Azata's special abilities, which all seem to require Charisma.

Aeon

That's not an option.

That's a shame, as its a the best archer Mythic Path by far.

Definately not Azata (which could work decently for an Eldritch Archer).
Trickster for the crits, I guess. Or Angel for party support, defenses and Sun Marked +Sword of Heavens bonus damage.

 

[Desiderius]

I mean always wanted to get there on a caster Ranger going off with Sickening Entanglement so I guess Azata would be your chance.

 

[razvedchiki]

What's the best mythic for a demonslayer archer build? Azata, Trickster, or Angel?

I used Charisma as a dumpstat, which makes me worried that I won't get much out of Azata's special abilities, which all seem to require Charisma.

i used azata with a similar build, because drizzt is chaotic azata has some nature undertones.
otherwise aeon is really strong, it got additional spells/abilities through 2 years of patching.

my spawning woljif technique failed, i dont use him in the party but i forgot to buy a +2 spell pen he sells.

 

[Desiderius]

What's the best mythic for a demonslayer archer build? Azata, Trickster, or Angel?

I used Charisma as a dumpstat, which makes me worried that I won't get much out of Azata's special abilities, which all seem to require Charisma.

i used azata with a similar build, because drizzt is chaotic azata has some nature undertones.
otherwise aeon is really strong, it got additional spells/abilities through 2 years of patching.

my spawning woljif technique failed, i dont use him in the party but i forgot to buy a +2 spell pen he sells.

He has new inventory each act, so a good idea to keep him around if possible.

 

[Desiderius]

Welp, Sosiel's Guarded Hearth (modded Capstone lets you pick a Domain at 20 for Cleric) finally showed up:

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Not bad for showing up Fatigued.

Also belatedly picked up Last Stand for everybody at Mythic 9. Didn't really need it until that Mephistopheles fight.

Bonuses breakdown:

DEX +12:



Size +1: Reduce Person
Insight +4 : Improved Quarry
Insight +4 : Aeon Relic Cloak
Sacred +10 : Touch of Good from lvl 20 Sosiel
Luck +3 : Divine Favor Aeon spell
Enhancement +5 : Magic Weapon, Greater from Sosiel
Enhancement +2 : Aeon Bane ability
Morale +5 : Heroic Invocation with Encouraging Favorite Meta (mod) from Ember
Competence +12 : Community Domain capstone from Sosiel 20




Merciless Shot +1 : Ring from Lann quest Ch 3
Promise of Power +2 : Bane of Spirit Relic ring (equipped by Lann) crafted ch 3
Other +1 : probably from Ronneck's Sacrifice Relic doubling Haste bonuses
Haste +1 : always on from Aeon Cloak
Coordinated Shot +2 : modded Teamwork Feat + Vanguard Tactician
Mark of Justice +9 : Seelah CHR bonus



Hat of the Bitter End +2 : Item from Ship DLC, additional +2 from each kill not sure why it doesn't have multiple instances
Enforcing Gaze Attack +5 : half Mythic lvl + 1
Enforced Vigor +2 : Lann Mythic ability triggered by White Dragon Armor/Stone Call

Missing:

Order of the Godclaw stacking Morale +3 from Reg (not here due to Ember quest)
Divine Power Aeon spell (additional +3 Luck over Favor)
True Strike (additional +16 over Improved Quarry)
Fatigued (additional +1 DEX bonus)

There you go, Grunker

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

On Unfair I notice enemies focusing lower AC characters hard.

I play on core with the extra enemies, slightly harder enemies, and additional enemy abilities activated. Almost all enemies focus on my squishy arcane trickster MC at the onset of combat--especially archers. They also like to go after Ember. I've taken to starting combat from stealth because of it. Sometimes I game the AI by getting their characters to run past melee for AoO, or draw their archers nearer so that I can hit the whole enemy part with a single AoE spell.

 

[Desiderius]

Can’t focus what they can’t see. Invis adds +20 to Stealth but doesn’t do much without underlying Stealth skill. If you can spare the ranks its worth getting (and boosting) on characters you don’t want attacked. Mind Blank, Communal stops Divination and Nenio has Invisibility, Mass as well. Also try to apply Invis, Greater on non-tanks for hard fights (Nenio has it as a school ability).

This is probably why PD was the only thing I noticed going after squishies. I think it has like 80 Perception. Of course the best way to prevent things from focusing your squishies is to kill/disable them before they can act by stacking Initiative. But letting Seelah be the first (and only) thing they see has also worked.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

Trickster has some cool stuff, so it will be fine. I read elsewhere that Azata was good for archers, but just from looking at the feats/abilities, that seemed counter-intuitive for a martial archer.

I've been doing an Unfair run. Finishing up Drezen, which has been epic. I'm liking Wrath way more than Kingmaker so far, although, I'm somewhat disappointed in the companion diversity. I have a Sensei Merc and I (stupidly, in retrospect) built an Oracle Merc who ended up turning out to be more or less the exact same as Daeren. I want to buy a Alchemist, as I miss playing with them.

Also, many companions can be built into OK tanks, but there's no pure, Valerie-style, tank in Wrath (that I've seen yet). I made Seelah into a horse tank, but she's kind of mediocre at damage and tanking. If I could start over, I'd probably do a Sensei, a traditional style horse-back tank, and an alchemist as Mercs. But such is playing Unfair. No do-overs.

 

[Desiderius]

Trickster has some cool stuff, so it will be fine. I read elsewhere that Azata was good for archers, but just from looking at the feats/abilities, that seemed counter-intuitive for a martial archer.

I've been doing an Unfair run. Finishing up Drezen, which has been epic. I'm liking Wrath way more than Kingmaker so far, although, I'm somewhat disappointed in the companion diversity. I have a Sensei Merc and I (stupidly, in retrospect) built an Oracle Merc who ended up turning out to be more or less the exact same as Daeren. I want to buy a Alchemist, as I miss playing with them.

Also, many companions can be built into OK tanks, but there's no pure, Valerie-style, tank in Wrath (that I've seen yet). I made Seelah into a horse tank, but she's kind of mediocre at damage and tanking. If I could start over, I'd probably do a Sensei, a traditional style horse-back tank, and an alchemist as Mercs. But such is playing Unfair. No do-overs.

(1) Mercs suck.

(2) It's a new game. The classes we (for good reason) considered indispensable in P:K turn out to get outclassed by the new stuff available in Wrath. I argued with people for awhile on this but ended up being mostly wrong. Inspire Courage effects get outclassed pretty fast by a massive Guarded Hearth (also Competence). Enjoy learning new things.

(3) If you like playing with a tank Seelah can get there. Give her a TSS level (or just get prof with a Feat) to use +3 Tower available as soon as you get out of Kenabres. She has Dodge so can get Crane with a Monk splash (and wear robes). Let fake Yaniel die in Drezen for nice +4 Full Adamantine then Legendary Proportions adds another +6 AC Size. UMD for Illusion Magic Scrolls and Seamantle as necessary. Divine Weapon Bond makes up for the maluses. All the companions bring unique features to the table if you focus on developing them.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

I don't care, I want an alchemist. Also, my Sensei merc has been indispensible. Mass Restoration, Barkskin, and True Strike are great early/mid game.

 

[Desiderius]

I don't care, I want an alchemist. Also, my Sensei merc has been indispensible. Mass Restoration, Barkskin, and True Strike are great early/mid game.

That isn't what indispensable means. Cam has Barkskins, Ember/Daeran/Sos have Death Ward (or Resto after the fact), and True Strike is one attack. Mass True Strike is nice if you have CMs or proc on hit or whatever, but Sensei doesn't get Mass version until later anyway. You're giving up ability to Hex etc to get that.

 

[Lambach]

Mass True Strike is nice if you have CMs or proc on hit or whatever, but Sensei doesn't get Mass version until later anyway. You're giving up ability to Hex etc to get that.

I'd take Mass True Strike against Playful Darkness over giving him a -4 AC Penalty, lulz.

Offensive Hexes just aren't that good on higher difficulties after early game. They're not terrible, if used correctly, but you should never plan your strategy around them.

 

[Yosharian]

Metal Curse says hi

 

[Lambach]

Metal Curse says hi

Was that one introduced in a recent patch? I don't remember it at all and I'm pretty sure I would've been taking it on Camellia all the time if I had the option.

 

[Yosharian]

Metal Curse says hi

Was that one introduced in a recent patch? I don't remember it at all and I'm pretty sure I would've been taking it on Camellia all the time if I had the option.

Unfortunately because Camellia has a shit archetype that ruins the class (yeah I changed my mind fast on that one having played the class a bit more), it's quite hard to get. You have to spend your second spirit choice on Stone in order to get it. Which nobody wants to do, because Stone's other abilities are pure shite.

 

[Lambach]

You have to spend your second spirit choice on Stone in order to get it. Which nobody wants to do, because Stone's other abilities are pure shite.

If I understand the description correctly, it seems worth it, tho, because it looks totally busted at later levels.

Get one Full Attack off with a Hasted lvl 16 Regill and that's a -48 AC penalty for 3 Rounds afterwards. Fucking devastating against powerful single targets, assuming that's how it works.

 

[Desiderius]

Metal Curse doesn't work at all, or hasn't at any point that we've tested it. Hexes (Hampering Hex from Cam for instance, or Evil Eye from Ember) scale up to -6 at lvl 16. And yes shaving off 6 AC no save, no SR is something that's worth doing in situations where Mass True Strike would also be good.

True Strike is fine if you've got a big Vital Strike to land or whatever, but if you want it there are all kinds of ways to get it already and it isn't necessary with Guarded Hearth/Brilliant Energy/Mark of Justice/etc already available. With Cam/Ember you're also getting a full caster while with Sensei you're getting a Monk without Flurry and a modest Competence bonus that gets outclassed by Hearth when you need it.

I've got Regill full Martial Intimidator with three Domains and +3 stacking AoE AB/Dam/AC instead of Hexes.

Once again, Lambach, you have no idea WTF you're talking about.