Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[Zayne]

Do I lose anything of value (exp, items, fun) if I skip tavern defense and attack Gray garrison?

Being able to skip tavern defense is supposed to be your reward for swiftness in the first chapter.
You're getting some gear and exp when you order attack without doing tavern defense, so it breaks you even in that department.

 

[volklore]

You get less xp for skipping the defense simply because a lot of extra stuff spawns on the market square including the nabasu miniboss (where the necromancer was) after the tavern defense. You simply won't get this new state of the market square if you skip.

 

[volklore]

Looking to build a mobility 2 trickster rogue focsed on on-hit debuffs (gonna use TTT but probably avoid impossible speed since I find it a bit too strong)
The idea being running around and proccing debuffs on everything that can AOO, and generally being a pesky annoyance of a chaotic evil trickster. Before it is mentioned, I know I can go saint and do dmg instead, I just want to mostly focus on debuffs and go for a rogue build (damage will be decent still).

Thing I am pretty sure the build needs :
-4 rogue (finesse training, debilitating injury) or 10/12 rogue (advance talents : dispelling attack, double debilitation)
-1 Barb/bloodrager for the movespeed
-Mutagen : need to stack dex for more AB, AOOs and better mobility checks. Probably want higher duration on it because 10 minutes is too low. In the case of TTT, i feel mutation warrior is much better for it because combat trick cannot be picked more than once and therefore there is not much use of discoveries from vivisectionist.

Will be using Estocs for Crippling kiss (keen, stacking -2 debuff to everything on crits) and the clemency of shadow ring (+1 AOO aura and AOO crits cause stagger), on top of the rogue injury, sicken (from crusader's edge or brutal beating) and of course a ranged character equipped with back rank assistance.
The necessary feats for this aren't that many.

What I want to have at level 11, M4 : Skill focus mobility, combat reflexes, proficiency, focus and improved critical : Estoc. As far as mythic : ever ready, skill focus mythic, leading strikes. This leaves a lot of room for other things, like early game insurance for harder difficulties

So for now I am stuck at this version :
Rogue 4 (thug or base rogue) > Mutation warrior 3 > barb/BR 1 > rogue 10 > ???
Is there any on-hit goodies I don't know about? How high are enemy CMD on hard/unfair ?

 

[Haplo]

You get less xp for skipping the defense simply because a lot of extra stuff spawns on the market square including the nabasu miniboss (where the necromancer was) after the tavern defense. You simply won't get this new state of the market square if you skip.

Yeah, but its not really a big loss. You're saving your valuable personaly time and avoid a tedious section of the game.

 

[Haplo]

Is there any on-hit goodies I don't know about? How high are enemy CMD on hard/unfair ?

Well, Thug could also scare them with Cornugon. But actually you probably don't need it as a Trickster, even moreso as a Mobility Trickster.

As for Unfair CMDs... well, Deskari was something like 120-130?
And over 90 late game for mooks?

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

After slogging through Wintersun while under-leveled, now everything is a breeze comparatively. Beyond other areas simply being easier, my squishy caster party is now 2 levels greater and able to dish out more & better spells. I still haven't triggered Mythic 4, which I am very impatient for on my Trickster. I'm concerned that I won't get it until Act3 is basically over. While my main motivation is to get Completely Normal Spell, I'd like to get some work out of unlimited wands before they're entirely obsolete (I'm using TTT). I can scarcely find any wands, and few are worth a damn. The best I've got are a cure serious wounds, haste, and mirror image. I'd really like to find a heal, displacement/greater invis, and maybe an enervation wand. I wouldn't say no to a Controlled Fireball wand either. Oh well. I think playing Midnight Isles DLC for a long time before the campaign spoiled me. I got hooked on quick progression.

 

[Average Manatee]

Uhh, what?

Shouldn't pets die when they are killed (or well, downed...). He can still move and make attacks as normal

EDIT: It then died when combat ended. Actually dead dead, not just downed.

 

[volklore]

Aren't you supposed to get the M4 quest basically a few days after act3 starts ?
Basically skip time and do crusade shit, maybe green gates and easy locations and then you should get your mythic quest and get to M4.

 

[Haplo]

Aren't you supposed to get the M4 quest basically a few days after act3 starts ?
Basically skip time and do crusade shit, maybe green gates and easy locations and then you should get your mythic quest and get to M4.

Depends on path. But yeah, generally you can keep busy with Crusade stuff until enough time passes.

 

[volklore]

Is there any on-hit goodies I don't know about? How high are enemy CMD on hard/unfair ?

Well, Thug could also scare them with Cornugon. But actually you probably don't need it as a Trickster, even moreso as a Mobility Trickster.

As for Unfair CMDs... well, Deskari was something like 120-130?
And over 90 late game for mooks?

yeesh, gonna have to domain that shit :D

 

[mediocrepoet]

Uhh, what?

Shouldn't pets die when they are killed (or well, downed...). He can still move and make attacks as normal

EDIT: It then died when combat ended. Actually dead dead, not just downed.

Boars get that diehard or tenacity buff or whatever. It lets you keep fighting after 0. You needed to heal it before that wore off.

 

[Average Manatee]

Huh, not listed in abilities/feats. But I guess that's what it must do.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Huh, not listed in abilities/feats. But I guess that's what it must do.

It's called ferocity for the boar. There's a feat called (I think) diehard and similar effects like the half orc racial.

Anyway, it's one of the things you get after the level up shift.

https://pathfinderwrathoftherighteous.wiki.fextralife.com/Animal+Companion+-+Boar

 

[Average Manatee]

Yeah, I realized what it was as soon as you mentioned it. I was just looking at the feats/abilities for something like that and wasn't finding it. The game apparently notifies you that the pet has that ability in the pet selection screen.

Incidentally, Boar seems to be the overall best pet now that it trips like Dog? Boar advantage is that it has +3 base AC, and for me having gore attacks rather than bite attacks means that my Skald can give them a bite attack (along with 2 claw from beast totem). Meaning all the way from level 3 you've got 1 bite, 1 gore, 2 claw attacks. Pretty nifty. Does have very slightly worse base stats to compensate but w/e.

 

[Lady Error]

So does it still have the spyware in the current version? It's on sale for $12 on GOG.

 

[LannTheStupid]

So does it still have the spyware in the current version? It's on sale for $12 on GOG.

The only danger from spyware is when your own government spies on you. This game was made by Russians, so unless you are in Russia, it is harmless.

 

[Lady Error]

They need to feel it in their bottom line that people do not like spyware shit.

 

[LannTheStupid]

They need to feel it in their bottom line that people do not like spyware shit.

Play Baldur's Gate 1, then. Roll back your windows to Windows 95. And, by the way, ditch your smartphone.

I mean, there is no spyware in Wrath, but if you are dumb enough to ask, here are the ways you can protect yourself.

 

[Lady Error]

Read the reviews on GOG, mediocrepoet. You actually had no clue that this comes with spyware being installed?

I won't even reply to the cuck who thinks that spyware is a part of "progress".

 

[mediocrepoet]

Read the reviews on GOG, mediocrepoet. You actually had no clue that this comes with spyware being installed?

I won't even reply to the cuck who thinks that spyware is a part of "progress".

Depends what you mean by spyware I suppose. From what I read of it, it sounds like people are upset about their bug reporting / diagnostic stuff. Is that what you had in mind, or is there something more specific you're talking about?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Lady Error further to my post, like, surely you recognize the difference between software that transmits bug and crash reports, system specs, and information of that nature while the game is running as opposed to things that continue to transmit information while the game isn't running and runs a keylogger or packet skimmer, etc.

Just firewall it, disable your NIC, or run it on a completely offline machine if you're so worried.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Just firewall it, disable your NIC, or run it on a completely offline machine if you're so worried.

I praise your effort and patience to try "I can fix you" on an intellectually challenged person.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Just firewall it, disable your NIC, or run it on a completely offline machine if you're so worried.

I praise your effort and patience to try "I can fix you" on an intellectually challenged person.

Quit trying to butter me up, everyone knows you're the right hand of Putin. As soon as my data is analyzed from the Wrath trojan horse, you're going to stuff me in a sack and grind me into Soylent Green to feed the Russian army in Ukraine.

 

[Lady Error]

From what I read of it, it sounds like people are upset about their bug reporting / diagnostic stuff. Is that what you had in mind, or is there something more specific you're talking about?

"The TL;DR is that the game requires you to allow Owlcat Games the ability to download third-party software onto your computer. This external software is permitted to scrape your machine for data, including hardware specs and other installed apps. The data is supposedly anonymized, but is geolocated. The scraped information is then permitted to be used for marketing purposes with any of Owlcat's marketing partners.

I believe this is called "spyware" and unfortunately, it seems as though Owlcat snuck this in. From what I can gather, a small update occurred shortly before the Inevitable Update which added this text to the EULA; it was not present before. For a game which had already been on the market several months, this is very shady behavior. Most current (and new, for that matter) users are just going to click through the EULA without reading it.

So, unfortunately, Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous is (in my opinion) retroactively made spyware by one of the most recent updates, and I strongly recommend folks avoid it until Owlcat removes the text and offending code from their EULA and game. (For what it's worth, Kingmaker doesn't seem to have the same problem.)"

From the top review on GOG: https://af.gog.com/en/game/pathfinder_wrath_of_the_righteous?as=1649904300

 

[Chippy]

Owlcat want to find out how many Codexers are secretly furries.