Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Stoned Ape]

So can you circumvent the fucking Tavern Defense or not? I did both Tower and Library and it still happens.

It's definetely doable! Leave the Library for last to abuse the teleport and skip the potential random encounter

Unfortunately by doing this you miss out on the mini-boss in the Marketplace

More scrolls and pots then. But I did find more gold after the battle. Something like 1300?

You do get a tad more gold, but then again the Scrolls of Heroism / Haste more than make up for it, plus you get the glory

You do miss out on quite a fun battle, though... depends what you're after, I guess!

 

[purupuru]

Also Nenio's quest dungeon is great. I'm always sucker for ancient Egypt themed dungeons and this have lots of puzzles too!
Only downside is I had to take Nenio with me...

Nenio has actually grown on me as I played more. I stopped seeing her as an boring autistic person but rather as an exceedingly smart pet.
One time she got confused and tried to bite Daeran, absolutely adorable.

 

[Desiderius]

Here is another question which again touches on the confusing UI design:
Regill comes equipped with a Gnome Hooked Hammer.

If you de-equip it and inspect it in the invtory, that is tagged as "Two-handed".

If you equip it, and hover over to get the tooltip out, then on the left-hand slot it says "Two-handed", and on the right-hand slot it says "One-Handed". BTW, Greater Pedantry check - one is with both words capitalized, the other with just the first word capitalized.

Regill has the feat "Weapon Finesse" which is described thus: "With a light weapon, elven curve blade, estoc, or rapier made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls."

Even though the Gnome Hooked Hammer is not a "light weapon", hovering over Regill's attack bonus shows that he is getting the Dexterity, not Strength modifier. I guess this isn't a bug and there is a rules reason for it, but it's never explained as far as I was able to find.

I further don't understand why Regill's attack bonus calculates a "-2 [Two-Weapon Fighting]", although the Gnome Crooked Hammer is a single two-handed weapon. It's not like he breaks it in two parts and fights with two weapons.

I guess this has to do with Regill's size and the fact he is wielding a two-handed weapon while being of small size.

This is what Spidergirl's UI looks like when wielding a two-handed weapon:

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This is what Regill's UI looks like when wielding a two-handed weapon:

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It’s good to make guesses even wrong ones.

He has Fighter’s Finesse Feat that lets him Finesse anything he has Weapon Training for. All double weapons use two weapon fighting for the off-hand attacks. Nothing to do with his size.

I think you get the extra THF value on the main attax tho for STR-bonus and PA.

 

[Salvo]

Here is another question which again touches on the confusing UI design:
Regill comes equipped with a Gnome Hooked Hammer.

If you de-equip it and inspect it in the invtory, that is tagged as "Two-handed".

If you equip it, and hover over to get the tooltip out, then on the left-hand slot it says "Two-handed", and on the right-hand slot it says "One-Handed". BTW, Greater Pedantry check - one is with both words capitalized, the other with just the first word capitalized.

Regill has the feat "Weapon Finesse" which is described thus: "With a light weapon, elven curve blade, estoc, or rapier made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls."

Even though the Gnome Hooked Hammer is not a "light weapon", hovering over Regill's attack bonus shows that he is getting the Dexterity, not Strength modifier. I guess this isn't a bug and there is a rules reason for it, but it's never explained as far as I was able to find.

I further don't understand why Regill's attack bonus calculates a "-2 [Two-Weapon Fighting]", although the Gnome Crooked Hammer is a single two-handed weapon. It's not like he breaks it in two parts and fights with two weapons.

I guess this has to do with Regill's size and the fact he is wielding a two-handed weapon while being of small size.

This is what Spidergirl's UI looks like when wielding a two-handed weapon:

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This is what Regill's UI looks like when wielding a two-handed weapon:

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Because the Hooked Hammer isn't a two-handed weapon. It's a double weapon.

 

[Haplo]

Here is another question which again touches on the confusing UI design:
Regill comes equipped with a Gnome Hooked Hammer.

If you de-equip it and inspect it in the invtory, that is tagged as "Two-handed".

If you equip it, and hover over to get the tooltip out, then on the left-hand slot it says "Two-handed", and on the right-hand slot it says "One-Handed". BTW, Greater Pedantry check - one is with both words capitalized, the other with just the first word capitalized.

Regill has the feat "Weapon Finesse" which is described thus: "With a light weapon, elven curve blade, estoc, or rapier made for a creature of your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier instead of your Strength modifier on attack rolls."

Even though the Gnome Hooked Hammer is not a "light weapon", hovering over Regill's attack bonus shows that he is getting the Dexterity, not Strength modifier. I guess this isn't a bug and there is a rules reason for it, but it's never explained as far as I was able to find.

I further don't understand why Regill's attack bonus calculates a "-2 [Two-Weapon Fighting]", although the Gnome Crooked Hammer is a single two-handed weapon. It's not like he breaks it in two parts and fights with two weapons.

I guess this has to do with Regill's size and the fact he is wielding a two-handed weapon while being of small size.

This is what Spidergirl's UI looks like when wielding a two-handed weapon:

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This is what Regill's UI looks like when wielding a two-handed weapon:

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Looks to me like its a double weapon - and you're getting 2 main hand attack and 1 offhand attack with it.
With potential for more attacks with Improved/Greater Two Weapon Fighting.

 

[AwesomeButton]

It’s good to make guesses even wrong ones.

He has Fighter’s Finesse Feat that lets him Finesse anything he has Weapon Training for. All double weapons use two weapon fighting for the off-hand attacks.

I think you get the extra THF value on the main attax tho for STR-bonus and PA.

I see. A reference to "Fighter's Finesse" from "Weapon Finesse" in the UI would have been nice.

Both main and off-hand attacks get the bonus from Dexterity that's why the main hand is +12/+7 and the off-hand is +12. But the damage is different - 1d6+5 Bludgeoning on the main hand, and 1d4+4 piercing on the off-hand. It's as if the hammer has a spike at the end of the shaft and he uses it for a stabbing attack.

What I don't get is why does he have an off-hand attack with a two-handed weapon, whereas Wenduag doesn't.

 

[Haplo]

Because a Greatsword isn't classified as a "double" weapon?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Looks to me like its a double weapon - and you're getting 2 main hand attack and 1 offhand attack with it.
With potential for more attacks with Improved/Greater Two Weapon Fighting.

Because the Hooked Hammer isn't a two-handed weapon. It's a double weapon.

The tooltip says "Two-handed" when inspecting its main hand slot, and "One-Handed" when inspecting the off-hand slot.

I looked up what "double weapon" means.
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipmenT/weapons/#wpn-quality-double

Double: You can use a double weapon to fight as if fighting with two weapons, but if you do, you incur all the normal attack penalties associated with fighting with two weapons, just as if you were using a one-handed weapon and a light weapon. You can choose to wield one end of a double weapon two-handed, but it cannot be used as a double weapon when wielded in this way—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment/weapons/weapon-descriptions/hammer-gnome-hooked

Cost 20 gp Weight 6 lbs.
Damage 1d6/1d4 (small), 1d8/1d6 (medium) Critical x3/x4 Type bludgeoning or piercing
Category two-handed Proficiency exotic
Weapon Group double
Special double, trip

A gnome hooked hammer is a double weapon—an ingenious tool with a hammer head at one end of its haft and a long, curved pick at the other.

The hammer’s blunt head is a bludgeoning weapon that deals 1d6 points of damage (crit ×3). Its hook is a piercing weapon that deals 1d4 points of damage (crit ×4). You can use either head as the primary weapon.

Gnomes treat hooked hammers as martial weapons.

So, ultimately, a UI-caused confusion. Heh, I was right about the pick at the end.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Because a Greatsword isn't classified as a "double" weapon?

Where in the game is the Gnome Hooked Hammer classified as a double weapon? I'm sincerely asking, because if it's been mentioned somewhere, I've missed it.

 

[Thac0]

I have rolled up a hunter now, after choosing this amazing portrait.

I did not want to make him dex, because Kingmaker had amazing spears and longspears, and I want a dedicated spear user. So he is currently full strength with heavy armor.
I could not make him a druid, because I want Azata. I did not make him a ranger, because my Kingmaker baron was a ranger.
I am a bit nervous because of medium BAB progression. I play on core, and I hope all the goodies that a straight hunter gets will make up for it.

Somewhat thinking about rerolling as a Primal Druid, since the dinosaur flair is perfectly for what I am building here. Also the large size bonusses go really well with longspears I think. Also full casting is nicer than half casting.
I am nervous about the alignment restriction however. Is it possible to be a neutral good Azata in this game? I would dislike having to settle for angel.

 

[Daidre]

Because a Greatsword isn't classified as a "double" weapon?

Where in the game is the Gnome Hooked Hammer classified as a double weapon? I'm sincerely asking, because if it's been mentioned somewhere, I've missed it.

I've tried to make a picture to rebuke that claim but you are right)
I really can't find explanations for the double weapons anywhere in the game.

 

[Reinhardt]

So looks like Ember is really loli Jesus. Maybe next i will play as party of crusaders whose mission is to protect her while she walks into Abyss. No companions besides Ember. Just 5 crusaders. Some english longbowman, some priest, hedge knight, sergeant and yuge russian orthodox druzhinnik.

Btw what class should i dip into to get bear pet for my 2h fighter with greataxe Ivan Piotr?

 

[AwesomeButton]

So looks like Ember is really loli Jesus. Maybe next i will play as party of crusaders whose mission is to protect her while she walks into Abyss. No companions besides Ember. Just 5 crusaders. Some english longbowman, some priest, hedge knight, sergeant and yuge russian orthodox druzhinnik.

Btw what class should i dip into to get bear pet for my 2h fighter with greataxe Ivan Piotr?

Should switch him to Bardiche while you still can.

 

[Reinhardt]

So looks like Ember is really loli Jesus. Maybe next i will play as party of crusaders whose mission is to protect her while she walks into Abyss. No companions besides Ember. Just 5 crusaders. Some english longbowman, some priest, hedge knight, sergeant and yuge russian orthodox druzhinnik.

Btw what class should i dip into to get bear pet for my 2h fighter with greataxe Ivan Piotr?

Should switch him to Bardiche while you still can.

Maybe. I'm just planning now. Greataxe is the remnant from time i planned him to be slav/varyag mix, but after chosing proper klyukva name bardiche is better, yes.

 

[Zeriel]

Because a Greatsword isn't classified as a "double" weapon?

Where in the game is the Gnome Hooked Hammer classified as a double weapon? I'm sincerely asking, because if it's been mentioned somewhere, I've missed it.

I've tried to make a picture to rebuke that claim but you are right)
I really can't find explanations for the double weapons anywhere in the game.

You basically have to know the Pathfinder rules. Feels like this is one of those things where in the past it would have been in the manual. But yeah, it should be explained somewhere.

 

[Haplo]

So looks like Ember is really loli Jesus. Maybe next i will play as party of crusaders whose mission is to protect her while she walks into Abyss. No companions besides Ember. Just 5 crusaders. Some english longbowman, some priest, hedge knight, sergeant and yuge russian orthodox druzhinnik.

Btw what class should i dip into to get bear pet for my 2h fighter with greataxe Ivan Piotr?

Mad Dog.
If you're serious about Animal Companion, you shouldn't "dip", though. Or "dip" other classes with AC progression (druid, hunter, ranger, cleric with animal domain, Sacred Huntsmaster, Cavalier)

 

[AwesomeButton]

Because a Greatsword isn't classified as a "double" weapon?

Where in the game is the Gnome Hooked Hammer classified as a double weapon? I'm sincerely asking, because if it's been mentioned somewhere, I've missed it.

I've tried to make a picture to rebuke that claim but you are right)
I really can't find explanations for the double weapons anywhere in the game.

You basically have to know the Pathfinder rules. Feels like this is one of those things where in the past it would have been in the manual. But yeah, it should be explained somewhere.

Or at least they shouldn't write false information in tooltips.

 

[Reinhardt]

If you're serious about Animal Companion

I just want bear. Will name him Grishka.

 

[Daidre]

So looks like Ember is really loli Jesus. Maybe next i will play as party of crusaders whose mission is to protect her while she walks into Abyss. No companions besides Ember. Just 5 crusaders. Some english longbowman, some priest, hedge knight, sergeant and yuge russian orthodox druzhinnik.

Btw what class should I dip into to get bear pet for my 2h fighter with greataxe Ivan Piotr?

I can take any class with a full pool of the animal companions on first level (Druid, Sacred Huntmaster Inquisitor, Beastmaster Cavalier etc) but pet will be forever stack on low level if you don't progress the class you got it from. Boon Companion feat could be taken once and gives +4 for such calculation, but it still only covers 4 levels in petless classes.

 

[sebas]

Guys, play now or wait for patches for bug fixes? I am sure it's in a better state than PK was, but is it good enough? Cheers!

 

[Zeriel]

Guys, play now or wait for patches for bug fixes? I am sure it's in a better state than PK was, but is it good enough? Cheers!

I've heard of some bad bugs in the later/last chapters. Haven't seen anything gamebreaking for me yet, only things I've personally experienced is achievement bugs.

Every mythic path has its own mechanics/quest lines/crusader stuff though so it's luck of the draw probably. Lich is supposedly badly bugged in some way, and respeccing too. But you're not guaranteed to run into any of it, as mentioned.

 

[Obsequious Approbation]

That feeling when you return from hell itself, but then you realize

Spoiler

your useless queen bungled your crusade in your absence.
Galfrey, you bitch, give me back my legions!
And my treasury, too. Goodness, I am a very lawful lad, a perfect Aeon, but I swear upon Allah's name that I will smite that woman from existence.

 

[Deadass]

Guys, play now or wait for patches for bug fixes? I am sure it's in a better state than PK was, but is it good enough? Cheers!

the game is good but wait 1 year for the definitive enhanced edition

 

[smaug]

NJClaw or anyone else are mounts still buggy as hell?

 

[Cyberarmy]

Guys, play now or wait for patches for bug fixes? I am sure it's in a better state than PK was, but is it good enough? Cheers!

There are bugs and mostly small and irritating but they pile up. I'm close to end but I haven't encountered anything gamebreaking. Mounted combat is a bit wonky but nothing unmanagable.
They say Lich mytich path has some issues.

Also Owlcat is infamous for breaking things that work with each patch