Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[smaug]

Lots of descriptions with {Draft} as well.

How do you speed up movement on map? It’s too slow, I move like I’m in forest terrain

Try pressing space.

Are you referring to something? Space doesn’t do anything?

 

[Dishonoredbr]

What did you guys do to

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Nurah? I placed her in jail. Do I place her there forever?

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Killed her. Any traitor needs to be killed. Woljif is probably next.

 

[Saark]

Christ Drezen goes on ... and on ... and on ... and on. Quite good fun though, especially the little things like stumbling into a pub and finding a nice belt on a tough unique demon. And finding that bitter creepypasta letter to the queen left by some poor sod who died for the cause.

One of the things I like about the Siege of Drezen, is how they actually use "elevation" and different layers of the siege quite well, with your little party playing special ops and opening gates (unless you brute force your way through it and have to deal with several gauntlet like fights while breaking down the gates).
It also teaches you the layout of the city before it becomes your capital, something which is oftentimes a big of an issue when gaining access to a new big hub. Just unfortunate that they barely use all the small buildings, that's something I think BG2 did really well. Small hidden crevices in the city leading to secret societies or mini quests/events.

 

[cw8]

Don't get why Daeran is considered Neutral Evil. All the conversations with him feels more Chaotic Neutral to me.

 

[Anthedon]

Warning about a potentially game-breaking bug (version 1.0.3c): In the Abyss

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when Yozz teleports you to the brothel and the arena you will instanly die when returning to the palace.

 

[Percy]

I keep catching Wendaug out being traitorous but just can't go through with revealing it due to how strong she is.

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if you do, she says she was planning on betraying later and uses a ring to teleport away

You can confront her after she is instructing her army and you have to fight her troops or after you find dryas stash

 

[Cryomancer]

Despite being played kingmaker for over 800 hours, I have more desire to re play kingmaker than to do a second run in PF:WoTR. Is not that PF:WoTR is a bad game, is just that getting a nobility title and building a kingdom in a place very close to the feyworld and dealing with ancient curses and other similar mysteries, is IMO more interesting than "go kill demons and save the world".

Only I?

 

[Parabalus]

I keep catching Wendaug out being traitorous but just can't go through with revealing it due to how strong she is.

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if you do, she says she was planning on betraying later and uses a ring to teleport away

You can confront her after she is instructing her army and you have to fight her troops or after you find dryas stash

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If she betrays you, you beat her up and you're best buds again.

Pretty sure if you find all the hints she'll be impressed and won't betray you.

 

[Desiderius]

Path is great both story and mechanics-wise

What are you playin as, if I may ask? Sorry if you already said it but I only make small forays itt to avoid soilers.

PC was martial, respecced a few times around variations of Mutation Warrior / Two-handed Warrior / Rowdy / Thug. Started as a Genderme but mounts were too janky.

Perception 2 gives insane feats for the whole team, but they can't be selected with any bonus feats, so they will burn a lot of them.

If you write scrolls with Metamagic, does that stick when casting them?

Yes, and in general scroll scribing in this game is like tactical nukes manufacturing. I won Wintersun village boss fight basically by casting one DC 35 slow from scroll.

Pretty sure the DC is bugged and too high.

Have to test it, but if everything works right it means you could get 24h Haste from Trickster with UMD 2.

Meh, all win more. Nothing other classes can’t do just as well if not better.

The Trickery Dispel is far and away the most meaningful ability along with the Arcanas. Perception 3 may well be worth it. Nature 1 gives each character a random cooking bonus from P:K.

Perception 3 is garbage, you get all the good Rank 1 Tricks.

Desiderius, since you rated my post were I explicitly referred to "a plain fighter" as fake news, I ask again, could you please elaborate on what you mean? I don't consider the later OP martial classes to be plain fighters if that's what you had in mind. Do you play the game as a single class fighter or barbarian?

Plain Fighter is insane. Wend with Dual Throwing Axes and Fighter’s Tactics + Seize the Moment + Greater Snap + Ever Ready is as good as it gets. And yes the Armor Training on that is better than Mutation.

Isn't her AB kinda low though? That was my experience.

Selective can be nice with Grease also.

Selective is great with Web, I used it through all act 2 with great effect. I also tried givin Camellia the favoured metamagic Extend Mythic, since I'm more or less giving her all the buffs and heals, pretty satisfied with the results for now.

Cam gets meta from the Secret Hex. Using Cam for heals is some last level shit. Channeling is so much more efficient but if you must use spells you’ve got three spontaneous options (and Lann makes a good Sacred Huntmaster for four).

She’s a killer. Let her eat butts for goodness.

 

[Parabalus]

Despite being played kingmaker for over 800 hours, I have more desire to re play kingmaker than to do a second run in PF:WoTR. Is not that PF:WoTR is a bad game, is just that getting a nobility title and building a kingdom in a place very close to the feyworld and dealing with ancient curses and other similar mysteries, is IMO more interesting than "go kill demons and save the world".

Only I?

Go for saving mommy or yourself instead. Or your entire party.

 

[smaug]

Despite being played kingmaker for over 800 hours, I have more desire to re play kingmaker than to do a second run in PF:WoTR. Is not that PF:WoTR is a bad game, is just that getting a nobility title and building a kingdom in a place very close to the feyworld and dealing with ancient curses and other similar mysteries, is IMO more interesting than "go kill demons and save the world".

Only I?

Kingmaker has more of a classical adventure feel to it. Drezen Siege felt like an endgame.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

I keep catching Wendaug out being traitorous but just can't go through with revealing it due to how strong she is.

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if you do, she says she was planning on betraying later and uses a ring to teleport away

You can confront her after she is instructing her army and you have to fight her troops or after you find dryas stash

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If she betrays you, you beat her up and you're best buds again.

Pretty sure if you find all the hints she'll be impressed and won't betray you.

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This only happens if you don't get her instead of Lan, right... right?

 

[Reinhardt]

What did you guys do to

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Nurah? I placed her in jail. Do I place her there forever?

Gutted on the spot as proper LG character should do.

 

[DeepOcean]

Boy, a mod that would be even better than the skip the Irenicus dungeon would be skip the Shield Maze and Grey Garrison, man, all the fights between the demon dude killing oversized chicken to getting into Defender's Heart are trash tutorial fights, making alts and going through that slog is annoying. It would be nice going from the intro into Defender's Heart with already level 3.

When developers will stop making over long linear intro sections in cRPGs?

 

[Desiderius]

Does Selective work on Persistent effects?

 

[Reinhardt]

I keep catching Wendaug out being traitorous but just can't go through with revealing it due to how strong she is.

Yes, she's strong, you are weak. Weak should obey the strong.

 

[Desiderius]

Boy, a mod that would be even better than the Irenicus dungeon would be skip the Shield Maze and Grey Garrison, man, all the fights between the demon dude killing oversized chicken to getting into Defender's Heart are trash tutorial fights, making alts and going through that slog is annoying. It would be nice going from the intro into Defender's Heart with already level 3.

When developers will stop making over long linear intro sections in cRPGs?

If they were trash you wouldn’t be bothering to complain. Truth is they can be pretty challenging on high difficulty.

Nice try, Satan.

 

[gurugeorge]

Boy, a mod that would be even better than the Irenicus dungeon would be skip the Shield Maze and Grey Garrison, man, all the fights between the demon dude killing oversized chicken to getting into Defender's Heart are trash tutorial fights, making alts and going through that slog is annoying. It would be nice going from the intro into Defender's Heart with already level 3.

When developers will stop making over long linear intro sections in cRPGs?

On Nexus there's a wendy/lann pair of saves that start you off the end of the shield maze, and there's a bunch of saves (Crusaders's saves or something) that start at various places later (e.g. at Lost Chapel).

I wouldn't use them until we're more sure about the respec problem though. (Does anyone know if it's related to Owlcat's own internal respec system or does it affect the Respecialization mod on Nexus too?)

 

[AwesomeButton]

Said someone who keeps 3 different generals in crusade mode pretending it's HoMM.

I keep 2 generals, one being a wizard with 3 stacks limit, which sucks and the other one being also a wizard who for some reason has 4 stacks limit. If I had known the limit doesn't grow with general's level, I wouldn't have developed the 3-limit wizard to level 4. But as it stands, I need a second general just in order to store the stacks which I can't be used by my active general's army.

 

[Desiderius]

Don't get why Daeran is considered Neutral Evil. All the conversations with him feels more Chaotic Neutral to me.

So you can use all the Evil items and Summon Devas.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Does anyone know if there is an achievement for not one crusader dying on the hill up to the Chapel in Chapter 2?

Why do you bother so much ? If you did the elemental on core mode in the tutorial youa re already in the 4.5% elite players...

I just got curious while getting through that part. It seemed like something perverse enough for there to be an achievement for it.

 

[Desiderius]

Said someone who keeps 3 different generals in crusade mode pretending it's HoMM.

I keep 2 generals, one being a wizard with 3 stacks limit, which sucks and the other one being also a wizard who for some reason has 4 stacks limit. If I had known the limit doesn't grow with general's level, I wouldn't have developed the 3-limit wizard to level 4. But as it stands, I need a second general just in order to store the stacks which I can't be used by my active general's army.

Manuever Mastery expands size, as it says right there on the ability.

Abandoning mass literacy was a mistke.

You can use two generals (I prefer three) to change up your approach for different foes. Choosing two of the same you know whatever.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Oh, desiderius ignoring me.

 

[Reinhardt]

change up your approach for different foes

Still pretending you need to change approach. Adorable.
No, seriously, crusade system is completely shallow, it's nor even rock paper scissor tier. Pew-pew simply beats EVERYTHING.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I... am speechless. This dude made a 9! hour 20 minute long video guide about classes and stuff:

“I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”

― Mark Twain

It's really a dumb genre these hours long videos, the guy gets tired soon, and no one can blame him, and the quality of the content degrades as you go further in the video.