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Warning about a potentially game-breaking bug (version 1.0.3c): In the Abyss

when Yozz teleports you to the brothel and the arena you will instanly die when returning to the palace.
 

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I keep catching Wendaug out being traitorous but just can't go through with revealing it due to how strong she is.

if you do, she says she was planning on betraying later and uses a ring to teleport away

You can confront her after she is instructing her army and you have to fight her troops or after you find dryas stash
 

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Despite being played kingmaker for over 800 hours, I have more desire to re play kingmaker than to do a second run in PF:WoTR. Is not that PF:WoTR is a bad game, is just that getting a nobility title and building a kingdom in a place very close to the feyworld and dealing with ancient curses and other similar mysteries, is IMO more interesting than "go kill demons and save the world".

Only I?
 

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I keep catching Wendaug out being traitorous but just can't go through with revealing it due to how strong she is.

if you do, she says she was planning on betraying later and uses a ring to teleport away

You can confront her after she is instructing her army and you have to fight her troops or after you find dryas stash

If she betrays you, you beat her up and you're best buds again.

Pretty sure if you find all the hints she'll be impressed and won't betray you.
 

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Path is great both story and mechanics-wise

What are you playin as, if I may ask? Sorry if you already said it but I only make small forays itt to avoid soilers.

PC was martial, respecced a few times around variations of Mutation Warrior / Two-handed Warrior / Rowdy / Thug. Started as a Genderme but mounts were too janky.

Perception 2 gives insane feats for the whole team, but they can't be selected with any bonus feats, so they will burn a lot of them.

If you write scrolls with Metamagic, does that stick when casting them?
Yes, and in general scroll scribing in this game is like tactical nukes manufacturing. I won Wintersun village boss fight basically by casting one DC 35 slow from scroll.

Pretty sure the DC is bugged and too high.

Have to test it, but if everything works right it means you could get 24h Haste from Trickster with UMD 2.

Meh, all win more. Nothing other classes can’t do just as well if not better.

The Trickery Dispel is far and away the most meaningful ability along with the Arcanas. Perception 3 may well be worth it. Nature 1 gives each character a random cooking bonus from P:K.

Perception 3 is garbage, you get all the good Rank 1 Tricks.

Desiderius, since you rated my post were I explicitly referred to "a plain fighter" as fake news, I ask again, could you please elaborate on what you mean? I don't consider the later OP martial classes to be plain fighters if that's what you had in mind. Do you play the game as a single class fighter or barbarian?

Plain Fighter is insane. Wend with Dual Throwing Axes and Fighter’s Tactics + Seize the Moment + Greater Snap + Ever Ready is as good as it gets. And yes the Armor Training on that is better than Mutation.

Isn't her AB kinda low though? That was my experience.
Selective can be nice with Grease also.

Selective is great with Web, I used it through all act 2 with great effect. I also tried givin Camellia the favoured metamagic Extend Mythic, since I'm more or less giving her all the buffs and heals, pretty satisfied with the results for now.

Cam gets meta from the Secret Hex. Using Cam for heals is some last level shit. Channeling is so much more efficient but if you must use spells you’ve got three spontaneous options (and Lann makes a good Sacred Huntmaster for four).

She’s a killer. Let her eat butts for goodness.
 

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Despite being played kingmaker for over 800 hours, I have more desire to re play kingmaker than to do a second run in PF:WoTR. Is not that PF:WoTR is a bad game, is just that getting a nobility title and building a kingdom in a place very close to the feyworld and dealing with ancient curses and other similar mysteries, is IMO more interesting than "go kill demons and save the world".

Only I?

Go for saving mommy or yourself instead. Or your entire party.
 

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Despite being played kingmaker for over 800 hours, I have more desire to re play kingmaker than to do a second run in PF:WoTR. Is not that PF:WoTR is a bad game, is just that getting a nobility title and building a kingdom in a place very close to the feyworld and dealing with ancient curses and other similar mysteries, is IMO more interesting than "go kill demons and save the world".

Only I?
Kingmaker has more of a classical adventure feel to it. Drezen Siege felt like an endgame.
 

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I keep catching Wendaug out being traitorous but just can't go through with revealing it due to how strong she is.

if you do, she says she was planning on betraying later and uses a ring to teleport away

You can confront her after she is instructing her army and you have to fight her troops or after you find dryas stash

If she betrays you, you beat her up and you're best buds again.

Pretty sure if you find all the hints she'll be impressed and won't betray you.

This only happens if you don't get her instead of Lan, right... right? :M
 

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Boy, a mod that would be even better than the skip the Irenicus dungeon would be skip the Shield Maze and Grey Garrison, man, all the fights between the demon dude killing oversized chicken to getting into Defender's Heart are trash tutorial fights, making alts and going through that slog is annoying. It would be nice going from the intro into Defender's Heart with already level 3.

When developers will stop making over long linear intro sections in cRPGs?
 
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Desiderius

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Boy, a mod that would be even better than the Irenicus dungeon would be skip the Shield Maze and Grey Garrison, man, all the fights between the demon dude killing oversized chicken to getting into Defender's Heart are trash tutorial fights, making alts and going through that slog is annoying. It would be nice going from the intro into Defender's Heart with already level 3.

When developers will stop making over long linear intro sections in cRPGs?

If they were trash you wouldn’t be bothering to complain. Truth is they can be pretty challenging on high difficulty.

Nice try, Satan.
 

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Boy, a mod that would be even better than the Irenicus dungeon would be skip the Shield Maze and Grey Garrison, man, all the fights between the demon dude killing oversized chicken to getting into Defender's Heart are trash tutorial fights, making alts and going through that slog is annoying. It would be nice going from the intro into Defender's Heart with already level 3.

When developers will stop making over long linear intro sections in cRPGs?

On Nexus there's a wendy/lann pair of saves that start you off the end of the shield maze, and there's a bunch of saves (Crusaders's saves or something) that start at various places later (e.g. at Lost Chapel).

I wouldn't use them until we're more sure about the respec problem though. (Does anyone know if it's related to Owlcat's own internal respec system or does it affect the Respecialization mod on Nexus too?)
 

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Said someone who keeps 3 different generals in crusade mode pretending it's HoMM.
I keep 2 generals, one being a wizard with 3 stacks limit, which sucks and the other one being also a wizard who for some reason has 4 stacks limit. If I had known the limit doesn't grow with general's level, I wouldn't have developed the 3-limit wizard to level 4. But as it stands, I need a second general just in order to store the stacks which I can't be used by my active general's army.
 

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Don't get why Daeran is considered Neutral Evil. All the conversations with him feels more Chaotic Neutral to me.

So you can use all the Evil items and Summon Devas.
 

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Does anyone know if there is an achievement for not one crusader dying on the hill up to the Chapel in Chapter 2?

Why do you bother so much ? If you did the elemental on core mode in the tutorial youa re already in the 4.5% elite players...
I just got curious while getting through that part. It seemed like something perverse enough for there to be an achievement for it.
 

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Said someone who keeps 3 different generals in crusade mode pretending it's HoMM.
I keep 2 generals, one being a wizard with 3 stacks limit, which sucks and the other one being also a wizard who for some reason has 4 stacks limit. If I had known the limit doesn't grow with general's level, I wouldn't have developed the 3-limit wizard to level 4. But as it stands, I need a second general just in order to store the stacks which I can't be used by my active general's army.

Manuever Mastery expands size, as it says right there on the ability.

Abandoning mass literacy was a mistke.

You can use two generals (I prefer three) to change up your approach for different foes. Choosing two of the same you know whatever.
 

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I... am speechless. This dude made a 9! hour 20 minute long video guide about classes and stuff:

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“I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”

― Mark Twain

It's really a dumb genre these hours long videos, the guy gets tired soon, and no one can blame him, and the quality of the content degrades as you go further in the video.
 

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btw just as a PSA, with PFK I discovered how to "farm off" a character to another character-named "tab" (or "folder" or whatever it's called) in the load menu, so you can create/respec new characters out of saves you already have, and they have their own-named "tab" there (or "folder" or whatever you might want to call it). I haven't yet tried this with this game but I presume it's the same process:-

1) Make a manual safety save (original character save) of your main,
2) make another manual save (new character save),
3) open up that new character save, respec your main (using the respec mod ofc), make whatever changes, including a new name, alignment, etc.,
4) now save over the new character save. But that will fuck up the "folder" name (the game "folder" will have the new name), so to get around that just
5) open up the original character save, and save over it, the "folder" will now return to its previous name, and the new character save will now be last but one in the list. Then
6) start a New Game with the same name as your new main, same lvl 1 features. This creates a new "folder" with the new name upon the first autosave. Then
7) manually save the new game after character creation (as soon as the dialogues have finished). Now here's the neat trick, you
8) open up the .zks of that first manual save of the new game with WinRAR, and open up the "Header.json" file inside it
9) look for the "GameID," copy it,
10) paste it into the "Header.json" of the new character save, save it back into the .zks archive (WinRAR does this nicely, dialogue asks if you want to save the change within the archive, no muss no fuss).
11) Voila! Next time you fire up the game, you'll see the new character save has notionally "moved" from the original main's "folder" to the newly-named main's new game "folder," and everything will behave as normal (new quicksaves and autosaves will now appear in that new game "folder).

P.S. The only thing you had to watch out for in PFK was kingdom alignment, which could be different from the new character you created, but that was easily fixed by changing kingdom alignment in PFK's Bag of Tricks. I don't know if this game has the equivalent of kingdom alignment, but it might be something to be careful of until and unless Toy Box implements something for it (i.e. keep alignment of new char the same - which should be no problem if you have a "spread" of chars with different alignments already - I mean most of us probably have several post-Shield Maze characters with various alignments already, for example, if not post-Gray Garrison - you can farm a new char off from an old one with the same alignment you have in mind for the new char).
 
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Cam gets meta from the Secret Hex. Using Cam for heals is some last level shit.

I'm using her as a crit frontliner, not for heals, that's just secondary. What I meant is the DC from her spell is low in my config and I have far better casters so I prepare different spells on her. She can easily crit for 70+ damage on act 2.
 

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Not nine hour build guide:

Level 1:

(1) Choose a class and race and background that you like. You can't fuck this up. The people who designed the ruleset are smarter than you. Or me.
(2) Pick Shake it Off for your first Feat. If you have two take Improved Initiative. You don't know enough yet to take something specific and these two will keep you from dying more than anything else.
(3) Play with companions and don't monkey around with experience sharing. Using things as they are designed to be used is a good life skill. Saves much wheel re-inventing effort to source some of that shit out.

Level Two:

(1) Level yourself and you companions up in the class they started in. This isn't 3.5. PF has several abilities that scale by class level including most of the best ones. This is intentional.
(2) Ask yourself what gave you trouble over the previous level.
(3) Read the new abilities/spells/feats available at your new level.
(4) compare 2 and 3 for good fits
(5) make note of the new things you can do/choose that satisfy 4
(6) choose/use those spells/abilities
(7) if 4 is blank and you have a choice to make open up unavailable feats and see if there's anything there you can use. If so choose the prereq if any.

Level Three:

(1) Repeat level two
 

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Cam gets meta from the Secret Hex. Using Cam for heals is some last level shit.

I'm using her as a crit frontliner, not for heals, that's just secondary. What I meant is the DC from her spell is low in my config and I have far better casters so I prepare different spells on her. She can easily crit for 70+ damage on act 2.

If you're memorizing Heals you're wasting valuable slots. And I mean really valuable. Divine Power is your Bread and Butter.
 

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