Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[smaug]

How do I add items back into the game by code number? Sosiel had

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Stauntan’s Glaive and it disappeared completely from inventory in 3 different saves at different times

what the actual fuck

Did you perhaps start the kingdom management relic project that involved Soulshear? Because that makes the glaive dissappear until it's done.

Fucking hell, I did. I tried to skip 5 days and the game has now soft locked.

 

[Reinhardt]

And here comes the trademark Owlcat decisionmaking... Which council should I prioritize? I loathe having to ask but I remember the pita the first time I reached KM's endgame

I think there is literally 1(one) important decision in all crusade system - when council asks which archers you want chose marksmen.

 

[gurugeorge]

It's a bit unfortunate that "Lawful" was chosen as the term for that alignment. It's easy to drift into vaguely thinking it's just about upholding man-made laws for the sake of it (which would be a weird thing to do), where really it's about maintenance of order and structure - cosmic order, social order (of which man-made laws are an important example), etc. Hence Neutral is theoretically an alignment that acknowledges the importance of both the maintenance of order and structure (things turn to jelly with no skeleton) and the ingression of novelty (things get boring if they're too ordered), but cares more about maintaining a balance between them than about either one exclusively - and that's what gives Neutral its own dignity, as opposed to being just a kind of undecided fence-sitting.

So Lawful is fanatical about order, Chaos is fanatical about novelty, Neutral sees value/cost in both and is unwilling to be a partisan for either.

"Orderful" or "Logos-respecting" might be better, albeit clunkier ways of putting "Lawful."

It's interesting that Order/Chaos is an absolute axis (it pertains to everything that exists), whereas Good/Evil is relative (what's good for the anaerobic bacterium, etc.). The easiest parsing of Good/Evil for humans is basically Altruistic/Selfish (as we are social animals), but you could also read that as propaganda from the ruling class (to encourage cannon fodder). I suppose basically the good old, "If you're willing to sacrifice innocents for your selfish ends then that's evil" is a good enough distinction for most things. But it gets complicated if you push that to an absolute criterion because everyone has a threshold at which they'd be willing to sacrifice innocents on account of some personal decision (e.g. a Lawful Good angel might decide it has to be done "for the greater Good"). (Here there's a distinction between "selfish=for my individual benefit" and "selfish=the choice I have made"- as opposed to following others' orders, or a rule.)

 

[Desiderius]

And here comes the trademark Owlcat decisionmaking... Which council should I prioritize? I loathe having to ask but I remember the pita the first time I reached KM's endgame

Don't think it really matters in the long run. Personally, I found the military one to be the most important as it unlocks unit upgrades. One thing I'd make sure of first is to have all the companions back in the party so you don't miss out on choices.

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More specifically get back Wolfie, hire Greybor and get Aru. Seelah, Sosiel, Lann (and Wendaug, I suppose if you went with her), Daeran and Regill are the other guys that sit on the various councils.

There is nothing to prioritize. Your sucking at a previous game has nothing to do with this one. Here you can suck at Military and Leadership at the same time. The one has nothing to do with the other.

 

[Desiderius]

Good and Evil are no more relative than Order and Chaos or the Being and Non-being (Nihil) which precedes both.

Relativism is post facto rationalization for one of the three negations.

 

[Fedora Master]

Fairly sure Style Strike doesn't work, at least not for sohei. Never once even SEEN a trip attempt in the combat log.

 

[Matalarata]

There is nothing to prioritize. Your sucking at a previous game has nothing to do with this one. Here you can suck at Military and Leadership at the same time. The one has nothing to do with the other.

Man, did you even play KM or just watch a youtuber? 'Coz I finished it during the first month and let me tell you, nothing of what you choose during kingdom management made sense. They pretty much admitted that there was basically no way to properly play it at release. Forgive me if I'm skeptical about the oh, so tight mechanics of this one.


Suck my chocolate salty balls.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Good and Evil are no more relative than Order and Chaos or the Being and Non-being (Nihil) which precedes both.

Relativism is post facto rationalization.

wow he actually posted something not retarded

 

[Fedora Master]

There is nothing to prioritize. Your sucking at a previous game has nothing to do with this one. Here you can suck at Military and Leadership at the same time. The one has nothing to do with the other.

Man, did you even play KM or just watch a youtuber? 'Coz I finished it during the first month and let me tell you, nothing of what you choose during kingdom management made sense. They pretty much admitted that there was basically no way to properly play it at release. Forgive me if I'm skeptical about the oh, so tight mechanics of this one.


Suck my chocolate salty balls.

Oh, what you did mattered A LOT because doing things in the wrong order could easily kill your game with a no-win scenario. :^)

 

[Desiderius]

There is nothing to prioritize. Your sucking at a previous game has nothing to do with this one. Here you can suck at Military and Leadership at the same time. The one has nothing to do with the other.

Man, did you even play KM or just watch a youtuber? 'Coz I finished it during the first month and let me tell you, nothing of what you choose during kingdom management made sense. They pretty much admitted that there was basically no way to properly play it at release. Forgive me if I'm skeptical about the oh, so tight mechanics of this one.


Suck my chocolate salty balls.

So in other words you sucked. Well getting better is most of the fun. After you master this one you can look forward to discovering all the things you missed in the first.

The late game KM did blow because if you played halfway decently before then there wasn’t one.

 

[Matalarata]

Oh, what you did mattered A LOT because doing things in the wrong order could easily kill your game with a no-win scenario. :^)

Except even when you did that the game sometimes just refused to load specific encounters or events. I know because I played act 5 twice and had to revert three times to the same act 4 save. But hey, probably it's my fault, I must have selected the wrong feats at level up!

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So in other words you sucked. Well getting better is most of the fun. After you master this one you can look forward to discovering all the things you missed in the first.

K' You wanted a retadred? You get a retadred. It's not a bug, it's feature meant to provide length and an additional chapter. You play chapter 4, chapter 5 and then chapter 5 again.

 

[Desiderius]

Yeah I played five months in so you may even be right.

 

[Nahel]

The act 4 boss is a joke on core.
And Sirocco is still broken as fuck

 

[Cryomancer]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/comments/por79g/real_103c_patchnotes/

 

[Matalarata]

And Sirocco is still broken as fuck

Duh. Hard to unbroke what is born broken as fuck:

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/sirocco/

In all my years GMing I used this spell vs my players twice and I killed four.

 

[The_Mask]

Sirocco is still broken as fuck

That's great. As intended. You invested 11 levels of Druid, Magus or Wiz/Sorc, you deserve to mow down armies. Fair.

 

[Saark]

So Lawful is fanatical about order, Chaos is fanatical about novelty, Neutral sees value/cost in both and is unwilling to be a partisan for either.

It's something a lot of people are confused about when they hit Act 4, and suddenly their lawful choices are between promoting fights in the coloseum, slavery and a bunch of other stuff that seems totally acceptable to demons, but would be abhorrent in human culture. Lawful has always been a term that most people were very confused about whenever we had a total newcomer join our tabletop group. A rogue following his own "honor among thieves" code is as lawful evil, as a devil from the bottom reaches of hell.

 

[Desiderius]

If your UI disappears pressing I for inventory will bring it back.

 

[Matalarata]

Oh God I'm already thinking selective Sirocco.

 

[Desiderius]

If Exhaustion and Prone were beating it was it really a threat in the first place?

 

[Desiderius]

I’ve seen people solo with it but never really appealed to me.

Selective is only for immediate effects.

 

[Matalarata]

If Exhaustion and Prone were beating it was it really a threat in the first place?

See, this post explains the difference between you and me. A threat is fun , I need to think. Selective sirocco allows me to clean the screen from chaff and concentrate on the threat. Normal sirocco is the gay option for those that either reload or are at the second playthrough and already know what to expect and so cast it ahead of time, or they pre-buff their front liner to be immune.

Selective is only for immediate effects.

Dude. No. Just, no. Go play another game.

 

[Nahel]

That's great. As intended. You invested 11 levels of Druid, Magus or Wiz/Sorc, you deserve to mow down armies. Fair.

Except its not mine. And a fucking cutscene force my party on it.
After dispelling all my buff.

Great design especially after killing another boss.

That is the problem with fanboys. Unable to admit any flaws.

Same shit with the crystalline shit spamming dc 40 aoe stun

 

[Fedora Master]

(Tyranny turns enemies friendly. Problem of course is that you cant force attack friendlies.)

 

[rusty_shackleford]

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(Tyranny turns enemies friendly. Problem of course is that you cant force attack friendlies.)

lmao this dude is playing as a furry