Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[NJClaw]

I think he can be a bro if you play evil character, maybe being in a forced duo with Octavia stained him for me. Wonder if there is someone here who likes Octavia though.

I enjoyed Octavia as a character (less than Harrim, Linzi and Nok-Nok, but still), but I like Aerie from BG2 so I guess my opinion goes straight into the trash

 

[Lawntoilet]

I guess I maybe just find Reg's jaded, hateful and hedonistic attitude more realistic than Octavia's hippie idealism, coming from a former slave. She is just like a "live laugh love" tier basic bitch.

Both are doing it as coping mechanism. That's the point of their quest. If you choose revenge Octavia will essentially become basic white bitch. Basically becoming closer to what Reg is doing. On the opposite if you choose being good, Reg got some color back and have more control over his impulse. Moving closer to what Octavia is.

But really in the end its personal taste. I find characterization like Octavia to be endearing. Its hard to be positive when life dealt super shitty hands to you. And yet in real life I've met people whose positive outlook on life allows them to push through and finding a relatively better life when I worked in CSR department. And I've seen how those people actually help people around them even before they "stabilize" economically. On the other hand you have shitheads like Reg who will be stuck where they are at forever.

Yeah I get that it is a coping mechanism for both of them.
I don't agree that Octavia taking revenge makes her more of a basic bitch, to be clear I mean it in the slang sense of Oprah-watching Instagram sociology-major type girls, not that she is actually bitchy.
I have met people like that too and they are inspiring and admirable, I don't get that vibe from Octavia though maybe because she just never shuts up about it. I find her super abrasive and not endearing at all. Sure maybe her attitude is somewhat healthier than Reg's but I found him to be more likable.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Anyway, my top-5 are Jaethal, Regongar, Octavia (the evil variant), and traditional Nok-Nok / Jubilist.

Also, Nok-Nok / Jubilost sounds like a good ship, though probably not fully consensual.

 

[FranticDistortion]

I guess I maybe just find Reg's jaded, hateful and hedonistic attitude more realistic than Octavia's hippie idealism, coming from a former slave. She is just like a "live laugh love" tier basic bitch.

Both are doing it as coping mechanism. That's the point of their quest. If you choose revenge Octavia will essentially become basic white bitch. Basically becoming closer to what Reg is doing. On the opposite if you choose being good, Reg got some color back and have more control over his impulse. Moving closer to what Octavia is.

But really in the end its personal taste. I find characterization like Octavia to be endearing. Its hard to be positive when life dealt super shitty hands to you. And yet in real life I've met people whose positive outlook on life allows them to push through and finding a relatively better life when I worked in CSR department. And I've seen how those people actually help people around them even before they "stabilize" economically. On the other hand you have shitheads like Reg who will be stuck where they are at forever.

I adore extremely positive and dorky characters if they are written well and can back up their philosophies with action like Whisper (new King's Quest one), Solaire or Braum, but I can't stand Octavia, she feels too fake for a character with such backstory. Maybe better writer could have pulled it off, but the one they had failed.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I adore extremely positive and dorky characters if they are written well and can back up their philosophies with action like Whisper (new King's Quest one), Solaire or Braum, but I can't stand Octavia, she feels too fake for a character with such backstory. Maybe better writer could have pulled it off, but the one they had failed.

Look I am probably sounds like a broken record here. But that's the point of her and Reg character. Or probably I am reading too much into their characterization.

Imagine both of them to be more Chaotic Neutral. Then both are taking a facade of Good/Evil respectively because they think thats the logical way to cope on their shitty situation.

That's why on their revenge quest, depending on your choice, they will do alignment shift. Or in case of the other guy, truly reinforces his/her belief regarding Good/Evil.

 

[Ontopoly]

Half of the dex is the kind of guy who secretly wants jaethal to step on their balls.

There's no secret about it. I want jaethal to step on my balls

 

[Pink Eye]

No no no! I think NOT. There will be NO ball stepping in this thread.

 

[Gregz]

No no no! I think NOT. There will be NO ball stepping in this thread.

Nope, Owlcat will save that for the actual gameplay.

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/posts/2761121

Born of Darkness: Dhampirs

A dhampir is a creature born of darkness, a half-human, half-vampire, and thus heir to two birthrights. Hunted and ostracized from infancy, dhampirs are the embodiment of the phrase “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.” From early childhood, they hone their survival skills, learning to outwit and even kill those who seek to harm them. Extremely determined in nature and with a lifespan similar to that of elves, dhampirs can choose to become deadly enemies or valuable companions.

Pathfinder Player Companion: Blood of the Night, page 24

Ordinary life in mortal society holds little interest for dhampirs; they tend to become slayers, thieves, or vampire hunters. As half-vampires, dhampirs share many common traits with the undead, from their resistances to energy drain, disease, and mind-warping effects, to their affinity for negative energy and aversion to normal healing. This alone can change the course of fights with undead or other wicked creatures. Their shared traits with vampires make dhampirs perfectly suited to hunting down the accursed beings responsible for their tainted existence. For this reason, dhampirs are often prized for their talent at fighting the undead, and vampires often fear dhampir slayers above all others.

At the Worldwound, an inquisition is raging in Kenabres, seeking to find and stamp out evil, and the borders of the planar tear itself are continuing to expand, to the fear and dismay of neighboring nations. The region is full of danger and promise for dhampirs, offering them the chance to slash their way through undead raised by demon lords or powerful necromancers, or to earn money by legal or not-so-legal means, uncovering the secrets of darkness or sometimes even serving those who forever lurk in the shadows. For those driven by a hunger for glory or revenge, the Worldwound presents an opportunity too good to miss.

As vampire offspring, dhampirs vary in their heritage. Some are born from less pure or mixed heritages, but those who are not may belong to one of the following lineages: jiang-shi, moroi, nosferatu, or vetala.

Jiang-shi-born (ru-shi) are often quite gifted students, and though their stiff movements may suggest otherwise, they can be as deadly in combat as any other dhampirs. Moroi-born (svetocher) are children of the haughty and brutal moroi. They exhibit deadly strength and are incredibly good at talking their way out of almost any situation. Nosferatu-born (ancient-born) are the peculiar offspring of misshapen nosferatu. Some of them seek isolation, some revenge, and some deadly adventure; their innate strength allows them to pursue any path of their choosing. Vetala-born (ajibachana) dhampirs typically have skin the color of faded brass, allowing them to blend into society more easily than others of their kind. Their awareness of their own mortal limitations drives them to quickly absorb new knowledge and master any skill required.

Advanced Race Guide, page 100

What kind of story will you weave? Will you struggle against your tainted bloodline, or embrace it wholeheartedly? Will your companions stay with you till the end? And what will this end be? The decision is yours, crusader.

To arms!

Owlcats

 

[Pink Eye]

Very cool. Vampire hunters turned demon slayers!

 

[Pink Eye]

Dhampir Heritages:
Ancestry Jiang-shi
Ability Modifiers +2 Str, +2 Iny, –2 Dex
Alternate Skill Modifiers Acrobatics, Knowledge (engineering)
Alternate Spell-Like Ability Ru-shis gain erase as a spell-like ability.
Alternate Weakness Ru-shis take a –1 penalty on saves against sonic effects and spells.

Ancestry Nosferatu
Ability Modifiers +2 Str, +2 Wis, –2 Con
Alternate Skill Modifiers Climb, Survival
Alternate Spell-Like Ability Ancient-born gain doom as a spell-like ability.
Alternate Weakness Ancient-born take a –1 penalty on saving throws against effects that damage, drain, or reduce physical ability scores.

Ancestry Moroi
Ability Modifiers +2 Str, +2 Cha, –2 Con
Alternate Skill Modifiers Diplomacy, Knowledge (nobility)
Alternate Spell-Like Ability Svetochers gain obscuring mist as a spell-like ability.
Alternate Weakness Svetochers take a –1 penalty on saves against effects that deal positive energy damage.

Ancestry Vetala
Ability Modifiers +2 Dex, +2 Int, –2 Wis
Alternate Skill Modifiers Escape Artist, Use Magic Device
Alternate Spell-Like Ability Ajibachanas gain comprehend languages as a spell-like ability.
Alternate Weakness Ajibachanas take a –1 penalty to their caster level whenever they are in an area affected by consecrate, hallow, or a similar spell that makes an area holy.

Source: https://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/featured-races/arg-dhampir/#Variant_Dhampir_Heritages

Apologizes, I made a mistake when copying this, its fixed now!

 

[Xamenos]

Look I am probably sounds like a broken record here. But that's the point of her and Reg character. Or probably I am reading too much into their characterization.

Imagine both of them to be more Chaotic Neutral. Then both are taking a facade of Good/Evil respectively because they think thats the logical way to cope on their shitty situation.

That's why on their revenge quest, depending on your choice, they will do alignment shift. Or in case of the other guy, truly reinforces his/her belief regarding Good/Evil.

I agree. Octavia isn't really Good, and Regongar isn't exactly Evil I think it would be more accurate to their character if both their sheets had CN written at first, and then they'd potentially shift their alignment depending on the resolution of their quest. But then Owlcat would've been drowned in complaints by idiots who think that everything about a personality is determined by alignment, and who couldn't understand people with the same alignment could behave so differently.

 

[User0001]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/posts/2761121

Dhampirs are dope

 

[LabRat]

I'm miss these 80s/90s anime style.

 

[frajaq]

tfw Hiatus x Hiatus will never be finished...

 

[User0001]

little somethin' to get y'all in the mood

 

[Pink Eye]

Kickstarter statistics from kicktraq:

Spoiler

 

[Sarkile]

Well, it definitely seems like we hit the slow burn portion of the Kickstarter.

 

[Ontopoly]

Well, it definitely seems like we hit the slow burn portion of the Kickstarter.

The Spaniards and the turn based crowd didn't pull through.

 

[ga♥]

It seems like Turd based+furries combo didn't work out as expected, it's like their core audience not only don't like those things, but actively despise them.

You see, I was going to back it. But then furries got announced and I said, oh well, maybe let's wait the codex fundraiser... but then they said they would implement a TB mode and 0 chance I am backing.

I will wait the game to come out and then I will see "what" comes out.

 

[eric__s]

Jesus Christ those vampire people are horrible. I know very little about Pathfinder lore, but to me, it seems like it's "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks."

 

[vortex]

Does Pathfinder Ravenloft exist ?

 

[ga♥]

Jesus Christ those vampire people are horrible. I know very little about Pathfinder lore, but to me, it seems like it's "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks."

It's like they are trying to gather to edgy teens, old grandpas living off their pensions, and NEET furries and their disability buxx.

I expect a general difficulty nerf too. Hard will be story mode and Unfair, normal.

 

[Dodo1610]

What are you guys expecting? Owlcat Games collected 1.2Mio in 2 weeks that is an insane sum for a studio that didn't even exist 4 years ago.

 

[ga♥]

This would have easily went to 2 milions by the end of the KS.

Now? Doubt it.