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KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop
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ricolikesrice
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not sure. i think the victory dance animations DLC, the hat pack, the battle-royale mode and the premium weapon pack will surely find their way on steam but i think the MASTERCHIEF armor skins are xbox exclusive and the Fortnite skins exclusive to epic launcher.
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Times like this, I miss TB. Say what you will about him and there certainly was a lot to say, but he was the most pro-consumer guy in the business. He would be tearing them a new asshole when developers do this after having Figs/Kickstarters/Early Access. If they hadn't had a Fig it would be whatever, but this is a real kick in the balls to backers.
Might as well make it Xbox One exclusive and ask backers "Don't you guys have Xboxes?" at this point. All or nothing.
Might as well make it Xbox One exclusive and ask backers "Don't you guys have Xboxes?" at this point. All or nothing.
Cross
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They can't. They wouldn't announce this if they hadn't already signed a contract with Epic, meaning there would be a fine for contract breach.
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Puteo
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I can't wait for the first epic-exclusive dev to leak the amount of money that Epic is paying them for this.
I think it has to be a lot. Sure, devs are often stupid but there's been far too many switching to Epic for it just to be a paltry amount.
I think it has to be a lot. Sure, devs are often stupid but there's been far too many switching to Epic for it just to be a paltry amount.
You know, I should feel some satisfaction... after all, I already long refunded since they broke their Linux promises. Shared suffering makes it better, right?
Not really, I'm actually even angrier now.
What an incredible dick move towards everyone. True stab in the back.
This is about fake and completely unnecessary exclusivity forced down your throat.
If a game had always been announced from the get-go to be on Epic first/only, the backlash wouldn't nearly as bad. But this is a invested Fig crowd-funded game, where people PAID to kickstart it in exchange for Steam and GOG keys.
Likewise, you'd kinda expect an Epic game to be there, and it wouldn't be much of a deal.
Honestly, I get Epic. Exclusivity is likely the ONLY way to break Steam's quasi-monopoly. Still. Not like THAT with games that were already promised for Steam, FFS...
Not really, I'm actually even angrier now.
What an incredible dick move towards everyone. True stab in the back.
I don't think people hate Epic per se.
This is about fake and completely unnecessary exclusivity forced down your throat.
If a game had always been announced from the get-go to be on Epic first/only, the backlash wouldn't nearly as bad. But this is a invested Fig crowd-funded game, where people PAID to kickstart it in exchange for Steam and GOG keys.
Likewise, you'd kinda expect an Epic game to be there, and it wouldn't be much of a deal.
Honestly, I get Epic. Exclusivity is likely the ONLY way to break Steam's quasi-monopoly. Still. Not like THAT with games that were already promised for Steam, FFS...
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Space Nugget
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LOL
GOG OR GTFO
pm_675
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Wait, I forgot that this game wasn't kickstarted but crowfunded on Fig. Forty percent of the foundig come from investors not backers.
Now, isn't fraud to offer a investment oportunity based on sales on Gog and Steam and then abandon that for a untested new plataform? After Epic pays you somenthing that you don't need to share with the investors?
Class action suit when?
Now, isn't fraud to offer a investment oportunity based on sales on Gog and Steam and then abandon that for a untested new plataform? After Epic pays you somenthing that you don't need to share with the investors?
Class action suit when?
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luj1
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wow fuck them, especially for 1) and 4)
lightbane
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I'm disappointed more than enraged at this point. It's fascinating in a perverse way how they broke each of their promises one by one, culminating with the standard triple A's current behaviour: Epic Store exclusivity. At least they accept refunds, for what's worth.
Why do people hate the epic store at the moment? Apart from the "trading the accidental monopoly of Steam for an intentional and forced one by Chinese controlled Epic."?
Look like a thin men from nuXCOM.
Tovias
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Well, that's disappointing. At least I didn't put money on the kickstarter and was merely interested. Gonna wait whatever it takes them to put it on steam, probably with the CONTRIBUTOR+GOTYA+ANNIVERSARY+LEGENDARY edition or whatever and get the proper game on a sale.
Trans-Financial-Man
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Let's go into all details.
- Backed by chinese company Tencent, who themselves are backed by those wonderful libertarians in the Chinese government.
- Forced exclusivity deals that benefit only the publisher.
- Added tax is paid by the consumer meaning more expensive games
- No User Reviews
- A "curated" marketplace where only approved games get in. You reckon any game that associates with the tolerant and well meaning people on this forum are going to be let in by the Tranny Brigade? Or the Chinese Government?
- It's more fucking DRM we don't need.
- Epic's security is always getting hacked. Constant leak of CC details.
- They want a closed market the Chinese can control.
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baud People want to see PC games on all storefronts. Valve never moneyhatted companies to be on Steam (AFAIK). Epic are paying developers/publishers for exclusivity on PC, the most open platform for games.
There shouldn’t beconsole storefront wars on PC. Especially not exlusivity deals. Other than that, I have nothing against Epic Store.
There shouldn’t be
Didn't something similar happen with the System Shock remake?
People getscammed talked into backing the project, enough money is raised to produce a demo to be showcased around for real investors, a new deal gets made for a different product and backers get screwed.
Refunded or not, it's kind of irrelevant, you're still using people as unwilling money lenders.
People get
Refunded or not, it's kind of irrelevant, you're still using people as unwilling money lenders.
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I watched one of those night dive streams and they mentioned that SS Remake would be shown at GDC at the Epic Games booth. Another potential EGS exclusive?
Kitchen Utensil
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Who cares, game will be shit anyways.
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ripperoni in pepperoni
Well I guess at least we'll get the answers to some very exciting questions.
Is the Epic exclusivity deal enough to keep them afloat if PP doesn't sell?
Does the Fortnite crowd pay any attention to turn-based games at all?
Is Ebin Store a viable marketplace for a very niche AA title?
Just gotta wait a year or two to find out!
Well I guess at least we'll get the answers to some very exciting questions.
Is the Epic exclusivity deal enough to keep them afloat if PP doesn't sell?
Does the Fortnite crowd pay any attention to turn-based games at all?
Is Ebin Store a viable marketplace for a very niche AA title?
Just gotta wait a year or two to find out!
PanteraNera
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Oh boy.
Seems like they do not miss any opportunity to upset their Backer's/Fan's.
I actually do not think that this game will be shit, BB3 showed that (at least to me) that it has a lot of potential and that gameplay wise it is a lot closer to X-Com and more complex than FiraxisCOM ever was (and probably will be). Which is a real shame, because if they keep on going on this rate, they will generate so many backlash that there is no one left that will play the game once its finished (or are to biased to enjoy it).
Also now they going to port the game from Unity to Unreal 4?
Seems like they do not miss any opportunity to upset their Backer's/Fan's.
I actually do not think that this game will be shit, BB3 showed that (at least to me) that it has a lot of potential and that gameplay wise it is a lot closer to X-Com and more complex than FiraxisCOM ever was (and probably will be). Which is a real shame, because if they keep on going on this rate, they will generate so many backlash that there is no one left that will play the game once its finished (or are to biased to enjoy it).
Also now they going to port the game from Unity to Unreal 4?
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