Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[Sensuki]

:cheersmate:

 

[J_C]

Leave the game alone! No more balance changes FFS! Use your time on making your new games better you fucking autists!

 

[Atchodas]

Sabres were deemed too fun apparently

Spoiler

 

[AwesomeButton]

Actually, I'm in favor of this. I would always choose sabres for 1H armed characters because of they practically had a 2H weapon's damage. Not that I would start another playthrough just for that, but it's a good change.

 

[Pope Amole II]

Ugh, it's a really bad move. TBH, the weapon balance is a big blunder on obsidian's part - incredibly quickly after release of the game, the fans have made a full DPS chart (something that the game designers should've actually done, but I'm afraid they hadn't bothered to). And it has shown all the glaring problems of the system as the damage output disparity was (and is) really, really big. And that's with all the factors being taken into account. Yet nothing was really done to balance the game.

The biggest travesty is that, by creating said DPS table, the players have already done most of the work - putting all things into equilibrium is, like, an hour of work. Two at worst. Maybe more if you'd want to tinker with special items, but it's not like they were made with the notion of "this type of weapon is medicore by itself, so we'll balance it by making this unique more powerful than the norm". It's all to easy. But no.

This sabre change is horrible in many ways. It's an incredibly severe nerf - the sabre now becomes worse than the mace and, in general, medium weapons become worthless. Nothing was done to redeem them - swords, battleaxes, spears, maces, they're all horrible. Only now sabre joins them in atrociousness. And nothing was done about other turbo-powered stuff (aka stilettos and estocs).

Another thing is that uniquely large damage of sable allowed a special reward for bonus stacking, thus enabling some builds. Now that

 

[Ninjerk]

Obsidian took him out

 

[Jimmious]

I don't get why does someone optimize their build so much in a game like PoE.
I'm (sloooowly) going through a PotD/Expert run. I basically split weapon specializations around just to have diversity. The game is not that hard even in the hardest settings possible.
You just really need to use everything you have, be it scrolls, potions, food...everything.
Tbh it's actually quite a lot of fun, especially without the ability checks visible in dialogs. Different experience for sure

 

[Ninjerk]

I don't get why does someone optimize their build so much in a game like PoE.
I'm (sloooowly) going through a PotD/Expert run. I basically split weapon specializations around just to have diversity. The game is not that hard even in the hardest settings possible.
You just really need to use everything you have, be it scrolls, potions, food...everything.
Tbh it's actually quite a lot of fun, especially without the ability checks visible in dialogs. Different experience for sure

Do it with one character.

 

[Jimmious]

I don't get why does someone optimize their build so much in a game like PoE.
I'm (sloooowly) going through a PotD/Expert run. I basically split weapon specializations around just to have diversity. The game is not that hard even in the hardest settings possible.
You just really need to use everything you have, be it scrolls, potions, food...everything.
Tbh it's actually quite a lot of fun, especially without the ability checks visible in dialogs. Different experience for sure

Do it with one character.

But..why?
Although yeah, ofcourse with one character and in PotD you'll use any cheese you can.
Still I'm not a masochist so, no problem for me

 

[Ninjerk]

I don't get why does someone optimize their build so much in a game like PoE.
I'm (sloooowly) going through a PotD/Expert run. I basically split weapon specializations around just to have diversity. The game is not that hard even in the hardest settings possible.
You just really need to use everything you have, be it scrolls, potions, food...everything.
Tbh it's actually quite a lot of fun, especially without the ability checks visible in dialogs. Different experience for sure

Do it with one character.

But..why?
Although yeah, ofcourse with one character and in PotD you'll use any cheese you can.
Still I'm not a masochist so, no problem for me

It will strain you in a creative manner to build a better character.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I don't get why does someone optimize their build so much in a game like PoE.

For some people it's a game in itself. Better than playing for the story, for me at least.

 

[Infantry]

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/88805-304-update-on-our-next-patch/?p=1846461

Spoiler

 

[Jezal_k23]

On the performance side of things, is it totally impossible to avoid FPS drops to ~45ish with more than, I dunno, I think like 10 characters on the screen? GPU usage by the game are low also.

 

[Bubbles]

That's Unity for you. Some White March areas dropped my framerate from 80 to 20 even when there was nothing noteworthy happening on-screen.

Torment uses the same tech and is also a notorious performance hog; the devs are promising improvements, but I doubt it will end up running much better then PoE.

 

[adddeed]

Are you serious? They are using the same trash engine again? The engine where every room and area needs a separate loading screen, and each loading screen taing a long time? In 2016? In a game where there is nothing dyanamic or complicated happening on screen? What a disgrace.

 

[Roguey]

The engine where every room and area needs a separate loading screen, and each loading screen taing a long time?

This is being addressed in Pillars 2.

 

[Sensuki]

It's not "Unity". There are Unity games that have more than 10 characters on the screen that don't have frame rate drops. It's the way they assembled the 3D characters - if they change it to something that better suits the Unity renderer code then they wont have that problem.

 

[vortex]

Unity did have a lot of changes post version 5. I guess they are redesigning Tyranny with Unity 5.x to get better results.
I wonder how will the whole process go with Unreal. It'll definetly handle character memory better than Unity. The lighting (for characters) and particle system are way better too. But, scripting, blueprints could take longer to deliver. I guess their dialogue system is interchangable with engines.
Could someone ask J.Sawyer about considering Unreal for PoE2 ?

 

[Roguey]

Could someone ask J.Sawyer about considering Unreal for PoE2 ?

Zero chance.

 

[vortex]

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/89399-304-beta-live-104/
3.04 patch notes

Spoiler

Who is that character in upper right?

 

[Infantry]

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/89399-304-beta-live-104/
3.04 patch notes

Spoiler

Who is that character in upper right?

Looks like new art...from PoE 2 perhaps?

 

[jungl]

two weapon fighting is still arguably superior then two handed especially late game. They are both very similar in performance.

 

[Roguey]

Someone explain to me how 11-16+20% is lower than 13-19, I can't wrap my brain around it. :/

 

[Infantry]

Someone explain to me how 11-16+20% is lower than 13-19, I can't wrap my brain around it. :/

It isn't. See below for a link to a very clear explanation of the intended impact. You can read the series of posts thereafter for additional discussion.

https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/88805-304-update-on-our-next-patch/?p=1846108

 

[Hyperion]

Someone explain to me how 11-16+20% is lower than 13-19, I can't wrap my brain around it. :/

11 - 16 +20% (+65% when adding in superb) is less than 13 - 19 +45% from superb. Nerfed the late-game scaling.