Eternity Pillars of Eternity + The White March Expansion Thread

[Strange Fellow]

 

[Safav Hamon]

 

[Quillon]

Older games weren't any greater. Old people just look at them with greater nolstalgia.

Making this argument at the base of old people = agreeing to get buried in shit.

 

[the_shadow]

Older games weren't any greater. Old people just look at them with greater nolstalgia.

I'm not sure if that's always the case, although nostalgia probably does play a role in some cases. There's also the simple fact that good games are remembered, whereas mediocre/crap games are forgotten, a type of recall bias. Finally there has been a trend to move away from games actually having gameplay, and containing too much walking/cutscenes/pointless dialogue.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Just speaking about the RPG genre specifically, most older games had very primitive, obtuse, and unbalanced rulesets.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

primitive

You were already pretty clearly just shitting the thread up for the sake of it, but you just went and removed all doubt. Are you seriously trying to tell us that RPG systems have become more advanced?

 

[Safav Hamon]

Game design has made important advancements, yes.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

That's an extremely vague statement in response to a pretty specific question.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Some RPG systems today are more advanced than anything back in the day. Especially in the realm of tabletop gaming, but also in videogames as well.

The four most important advancements I've seen in modern video RPG design are...

- The inclusion of more roleplaying oriented systems

- Greater acceptance of freeform character building

- More interesting choices during character progression

- Less false choices (older RPGs were plagued with objectively bad choices)

 

[aweigh]

this is some good trolling going on right now. pay attention folks, this is how it's done.

EDIT: although he did tip his hand too much with the less false choices.

 

[PulsatingBrain]

this is some good trolling going on right now. pay attention folks, this is how it's done.

EDIT: although he did tip his hand too much with the less false choices.

He got me and a few others to take him at his word briefly. I dunno if that's much of an achievement

 

[Lahey]

Pretending to be retarded isn't good trolling.

 

[fantadomat]

Pretending to be retarded isn't good trolling.

Who said that he is pretending,there are genuinely retarded people out there mate. He must be one of them.

 

[Stokowski]

So after three years I finally finished this fucker and it was ... OK. The overall package seemed an admirable effort, but one that's hard to really love.

Wot I thought:
- Combat mechanics and itemisation were deeply awful.
- Too much of the writing was overdone and/or dreadfully earnest. Who cares about your encyclopedic world building if the tone is so drab?
- Party members were a mixed bag but generally likeable or interesting enough to keep around and help on their personal quests.
- The setting and basic plot premise seemed to hold a decent amount of promise, but ...
- Surely the central philosophical question at the heart of the game is "is there a difference that really matters between creator god(s) and created god(s)?", but that debate never arose. Why? It's as if PST never asked what could change the nature of a man.
- The White March was good fun and a significant notch better than the base game in almost every way. Returning to Act III Main Quest after completing The White March was not an enjoyable experience.
- CYOA segments worked well.
- 2D art (of this calibre) is still awesome. Animations were excellent too.
- No RPG should ever, ever, start with the main character suffering from chronic shits. I'm sure the idea got a laugh in the writers' room, but ought never have made it into the actual product.

Don't really feel like trying Deadfire now, but I'll probably end up picking it up on a sale in about three years time.

 

[2house2fly]

That's not the central question, the question is "what if we can be assured of nothing?" The gods are themselves an answer to that question.

You don't actually have the shits in the intro, your soul is just getting restless because it has memories of the Engwithan ruins you're near

 

[Lacrymas]

And as we've already established, there is no central question, good try, though.

 

[Darth Roxor]

honestly whats so bad about the character getting the shits

 

[Stokowski]

"But what if we can be assured of not having a properly functioning sphincter?"

Now the game makes sense.

 

[Lhynn]

honestly whats so bad about the character getting the shits

Nothing, i actually thought it was excellent foreshadowing and encapsulated perfectly both the design philosphy and the tone of the game.

 

[Prime Junta]

you guys are just sore because they didn't have the budget for proper animations and FX for it

 

[Lacrymas]

It is true. I was so disappointed I couldn't see in painstaking detail how my character diarrheas everywhere.

 

[fantadomat]

Lacrymas what are you playing now,kingmaker or that shit? You are combatfag,kingmaker must make your dick hard as adamantite golem.

 

[Lacrymas]

PoE2, I'm not going to wade through an ocean of bugs in Kingmaker. I have a lot of other games to play before they fix it. I am looking forward to it, however, as this has been the most positive the 'Dex has been for any new RPG. I'm also interested whether the quality of Kingmaker drops as the chapters progress, or if it feels unfinished.

 

[Dorateen]

The Central Question for me was what bounty should we go after next.

 

[fantadomat]

PoE2, I'm not going to wade through an ocean of bugs in Kingmaker. I have a lot of other games to play before they fix it. I am looking forward to it, however, as this has been the most positive the 'Dex has been for any new RPG. I'm also interested whether the quality of Kingmaker drops as the chapters progress, or if it feels unfinished.

The game doesn't have many bugs,all of them about quests and triggers. Nothing to stop a combatfag from jizzing all over the screen. I am curious to see if you are real combatfag or just another pseudo .