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[Helly]

Worse comes to worst we can still add a Shira Oka avatar gallery, right ?

 

[Crooked Bee]

I'd say custom avatars should be as pricey as possible. (Assuming DU sorts out the problems with the gallery.)

Why the hate for custom avatars? Don't you like your avatar?

I do like my avatar but it's an MCA avatar that I paid $250 for, even if slightly modified. That's a special case. MCA avatars will stay.

Plus everyone who paid $200 or more for a custom MCA avatar will be eligible for custom avatars anyway.

 

[Alex_Steel]

I do like my avatar but it's an MCA avatar that I paid $250 for, even if slightly modified. That's a special case. MCA avatars will stay.

Plus everyone who paid $200 or more for a custom MCA avatar will be eligible for custom avatars anyway.

Look, I can understand something being expensive because it is rare...like an MCA avatar. You paid for an MCA avatar and you got it. But since there is no scarcity problem for all the other avatars, why do you feel the need to restrict them?

Think of it like diamonds. Diamonds are beautiful and very hard. Everyone wants to have diamonds. It makes sense for those huge diamonds to be extremely expensive because they are extremely rare. But diamonds altogether are not so rare. De Beers controlled their flow in order to create false scarcity and inflate the prices. And that's why De Beers are considered to be among the scum of this earth.

Now, I don't consider it being of the same magnitude, but I can't help but see the same principle behind it.

 

[Jashiin]

wanted: monetization expert for rpgcodex.net

 

[evdk]

The thing is, the Codex has traditionally disdained custom avatars. The only reason for their current proliferation is the fact that moving to xenforo fucked the old galleries hard and it was a choice between custom and no avatars at all.

 

[Crooked Bee]

I do like my avatar but it's an MCA avatar that I paid $250 for, even if slightly modified. That's a special case. MCA avatars will stay.

Plus everyone who paid $200 or more for a custom MCA avatar will be eligible for custom avatars anyway.

Look, I can understand something being expensive because it is rare...like an MCA avatar. You paid for an MCA avatar and you got it. But since there is no scarcity problem for all the other avatars, why do you feel the need to restrict them?

I honestly don't feel like revisiting the custom avatars vs gallery debate again. There are, of course, arguments on both sides. Let's just say I am, personally, firmly in the pro-gallery, anti-custom avatar camp. I believe that on a forum like the Codex, dedicated as it is to PC/oldschool RPGs, all avatars must be in keeping with that, except in rare special cases.

 

[Konjad]

Worse comes to worst we can still add a Shira Oka avatar gallery, right ?

 

[Alex_Steel]

The thing s, the Codex has traditionally disdained custom avatar. The only reason for their current proliferation is the fact that moving to xenforo fucked the old galleries hard and it was a choice between custom and no avatars at all.

And I understand this. But the rule also applied to everyone. Even DU used a gallery avatar.

 

[Konjad]

except in rare special cases.

Exceptions are for pussies, not for 'dex. Purge avatars and everyone who dares to disagree

 

[evdk]

The thing s, the Codex has traditionally disdained custom avatar. The only reason for their current proliferation is the fact that moving to xenforo fucked the old galleries hard and it was a choice between custom and no avatars at all.

And I understand this. But the rule also applied to everyone. Even DU used a gallery avatar.

MCA avatars are the obvious exception, coming as a reward for $200 donations. If you want to have a custom avatar you'd better be prepared to make a similar monetary sacrifice. That is fair.

 

[Alex_Steel]

I honestly don't feel like revisiting the custom avatars vs gallery debate again. There are, of course, arguments on both sides. Let's just say I am, personally, firmly in the pro-gallery, anti-custom avatar camp. I believe that on a forum like the Codex, dedicated as it is to PC/oldschool RPGs, all avatars must be in keeping with that, except in rare special cases.

There is a contradiction there. "Except" means you are not firmly pro-gallery, anti-custom. You just want a gallery for everyone except yourself and a dozen more posters. If you were firmly pro-gallery, you would "sacrifice" your avatar.

MCA avatars are the obvious exception, coming as a reward for $200 donations. If you want to have a custom avatar you'd better be prepared to make a similar monetary sacrifice. That is fair.

The reward for $200 (a price for real scarcity) was the personalized MCA avatar, not the forum-right to use it. And look, Crooked Bee does have an MCA avatar and I don't. I didn't have 200$ and that's why I have an avatar I found on the internet while Bee has a personalised one by MCA.

As for sacrifice, I will just say that it is totally relative to what you have. For Bill Gates, $200 are nothing but for a working man in Bangladesh, it might be all he has. And I won't presume to know anyone else's finances and donations around here, but the few $ I gave to help this place might be a greater sacrifice than double the amount some other patron gave. Or the 1$ some people give, might be a greater sacrifice than the one I make.

One of the reasons most societies are awful is because they are defined and controlled purely for the sake of money and power, instead of the community itself. Unfortunately, the Codex is slowly going down that road.

 

[Syl]

Maybe an avatar already in use could be automatically greyed out in the avatar editor.

Hey I like this idea! Pay to reserve an avatar. It would be less than $5, maybe $1 or $2, but most people with potatoes will do it. You might even earn more than with custom avatars.

Edit: I meant as an alternative to custom avatars. I hate customs avatars.

 

[toro]

And this, kids, is the way to introduce micro-transactions ...

 

[cvv]

So what? They're just like macro-transactions, only smaller...

 

[Cowboy Moment]

This must be how Hindenburg felt on the Day of Potsdam.

I'd say custom avatars should be as pricey as possible. (Assuming DU sorts out the problems with the gallery.)

Why the hate for custom avatars? Don't you like your avatar?

Because the grand majority of them look like shit. Yours, for example.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

So what? They're just like macro-transactions, only smaller...

 

[toro]

So what? They're just like macro-transactions, only smaller...

So what? They're just like macro-transactions, only smaller...

 

[Infinitron]

Alts gonna alt.

Unfortunately, the Codex is slowly going down that road.

Down the road of costing thousands of dollars a year to maintain? Yes.

We consider custom avatars to be extremely popamole, but we're giving you the option to use them in exchange for a fee. Consider it a form of incentivization, much like how governments heavily tax cigarettes, without completely illegalizing them, thus both incentivizing citizens not to buy cigarettes and making money off of those who do buy them. It's an enlightened policy.

 

[Cassidy]

Down the road of costing thousands of dollars a year to maintain? Yes.

Better to let it burn and die than to turn it into another SA.

 

[Alex_Steel]

Because the grand majority of them look like shit. Yours, for example.

I was willing to accept your argument, despite the fact you are bringing personal taste to the table. But then I realized that my avatar is better looking than around 1/5 of the gallery (yes, not every piece of pixel art in every old game is good-looking), besides being quite appropriate for a gaming forum.

Maybe I should use a Sims 2 or Oblivion avatar from the gallery; I'm sure it will be a real eye-candy for your truly refined taste.

Down the road of costing thousands of dollars a year to maintain? Yes.

We consider custom avatars to be extremely popamole, but we're giving you the option to use them in exchange for a fee. Consider it a form of incentivization, much like how governments heavily tax cigarettes, without completely illegalizing them, thus both incentivizing citizens not to buy cigarettes and making money off of those who do buy them. It's an enlightened policy.

Well, I have only one comment on this. When the RPGCodex vanity projects receive more funding than what is needed for the community to survive, then you can I understand that there is a problem of priorities around here.

 

[evdk]

Alts gonna alt.

Is it fretty again?

 

[cvv]

Alts gonna alt.

I'm nobody's alt goddammit

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Because the grand majority of them look like shit. Yours, for example.

I was willing to accept your argument, despite the fact you are bringing personal taste to the table. But then I realized that my avatar is better looking than around 1/5 of the gallery (yes, not every piece of pixel art in every old game is good-looking), besides being quite appropriate for a gaming forum.

Maybe I should use a Sims 2 or Oblivion avatar from the gallery; I'm sure it will be a real eye-candy for your truly refined taste.

There are Sims 2 avatars in the gallery? I retract my statement, you win.

 

[IDtenT]

One of them is fretty.

Anyhow. I'd like to think that my avatar is instantly recognisable - which is really the idea.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Why is ad free working but not my patron tag?

 

[evdk]

Why is ad free working but not my patron tag?

The patron tag will be available to anyone who donates to any of the server campaigns.

Well, did you?

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

The thing is, the Codex has traditionally disdained custom avatars. The only reason for their current proliferation is the fact that moving to xenforo fucked the old galleries hard and it was a choice between custom and no avatars at all.

Aren't most moderators and admins here using custom avatars though? Why do they get to keep their custom avatars while the common folk have to settle for the gallery?