Community RPG Codex People's Awards: Best RPGs

[Ermm]

Nice, but is it possible to reveal what was beyond top 50? Pretty please?

 

[felipepepe]

Here's the full Console list.

 

[Snikt]

Everyone has played Fallouts, Arcanum, Baldur's Gate and so on, because they are Windows games, have CD music, FMV, voice-acting, fancy stuff etc. The games that need more recognition are early 90's and 80's games that have been ignored and forgotten due to not being native Windows, having no in-game documentation (ie requiring the player to read the manual/reference card), being very difficult, and otherwise utterly unapproachable except for the very patient. It's already happening that "isometric" has become the new word for hardcore RPG, as if RPG's only started being made in 1997.

 

[Sceptic]

We've had polls like this one the forum since the beginning and the results are always the same. Fallout, Planescape, Fallout II and then a lot of Troika and Infinity games. Only difference between the new posters and oldies was that the mayority of the older ones actually knew and played stuff like Dark Sun: Shattered Lands, Realms of Arkania and Darklands. Nowadays most people don't go further back in their knowledge of rpg's than the late 90's or early 00's.

Bullshit, the site has been entirely late 90s-centric since I started lurking waaaaaaaaay back. If anything the new posters are MORE likely to have played/be playing the early RPGs. Where were the Might and Magic and Wizardry megathreads in 2002? oh right there weren't any, because the oldest CRPG anyone had played was Daggerfall and everyone was too busy talking about Arcanum - you know, the game that wasn't even a year old then. Yeah, Saint and VD and Rosh and yourself certainly flooded the place with discussions on Phantasie and Questron and Wilderness Campaign and Demon's Winter - hell where were all the Dark Sun threads, since you mentioned that game yourself? This place never changed, the majority was always centered on late-90s/early-2000s CRPGs. But at least now there IS a minority aware of the older games, and even the younger ones are playing (and enjoying!) the old stuff (see Jimbob's wonderful posts on Wasteland and the M&Ms). I'm actually glad for the new blood bringing more love to the older games, the only reason I broke down and finally registered was because of LPs and threads of games that proved there were FINALLY people in here that gamed before Fallout.

Also, ROA1 sucks. There.

 

[taxalot]

Where the fuck is Ultima VII ? Where the fuck is Persona 4 ?
Ban RPGCODEX.

 

[Orma]

Witcher 2? really?

 

[Infinitron]

Sceptic is right. Like it or not, RPG Codex is more or less a direct descendant of the Black Isle fandom of the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's a legacy we can never completely shake off.

 

[laclongquan]

aaaaah~ The sweet sweet taste of nerdrages. Lovely~

 

[Jaesun]

Where the fuck is Ultima VII ?

Position #28 (Specifically Ultima VII Part 1: The black Gate. Ultima VII Part 2: The Serpent Isle was #67).

Where the fuck is Persona 4 ?

That's a console game.

 

[Sceptic]

Sceptic is right. Like it or not, RPG Codex is more or less a direct descendant of the Black Isle fandom of the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's a legacy we can never completely shake off.

I don't think we should shake it off. But, you know, perspective.

TBH I'm not particularly bothered by the list. I'm (a little) bothered some things are higher than others, but I don't look at it and go FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU like when seeing Portal 2 as adventure game of the year.

 

[evdk]

Where the fuck is Persona 4 ?

That's a shit game.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Icewind Dale and TOEE don't belong on the list. Ultima 7 and Betrayal at Krondor do. Also one of the Wizardry and Gold Box games.

Trash is correct. Not sure what Grunker is butthurt about, it's not like he voted these in.

Pool of Radiance for example, should be much higher on the list than either Icewind Dale or TOEE.

 

[Crooked Bee]

We've had polls like this one the forum since the beginning and the results are always the same. Fallout, Planescape, Fallout II and then a lot of Troika and Infinity games. Only difference between the new posters and oldies was that the mayority of the older ones actually knew and played stuff like Dark Sun: Shattered Lands, Realms of Arkania and Darklands. Nowadays most people don't go further back in their knowledge of rpg's than the late 90's or early 00's.

Bullshit, the site has been entirely late 90s-centric since I started lurking waaaaaaaaay back. If anything the new posters are MORE likely to have played/be playing the early RPGs. Where were the Might and Magic and Wizardry megathreads in 2002? oh right there weren't any, because the oldest CRPG anyone had played was Daggerfall and everyone was too busy talking about Arcanum - you know, the game that wasn't even a year old then. Yeah, Saint and VD and Rosh and yourself certainly flooded the place with discussions on Phantasie and Questron and Wilderness Campaign and Demon's Winter - hell where were all the Dark Sun threads, since you mentioned that game yourself? This place never changed, the majority was always centered on late-90s/early-2000s CRPGs. But at least now there IS a minority aware of the older games, and even the younger ones are playing (and enjoying!) the old stuff (see Jimbob's wonderful posts on Wasteland and the M&Ms). I'm actually glad for the new blood bringing more love to the older games, the only reason I broke down and finally registered was because of LPs and threads of games that proved there were FINALLY people in here that gamed before Fallout.

Also, ROA1 sucks. There.

Would brofist except ROA1 doesn't suck.

 

[felipepepe]

Where the fuck is Persona 4 ?

At #11 of the Console list, tied with Chrono Cross and FF V.

 

[Indranys]

What?
No Grimoire demo?
Fuck this shit.



On topic, I agree the list is shitty.
I understand why people vote Planescape, Fallout, and Arcanum.
But no BaK, Darklands, PoR, Dark Sun at least at 6-10 position?
Instead we got Morrowind aka Bethesda's Finest LARPing Simulator aka Older Skyrim with better detail and more content.
I know my opinion is not worth a shit, but it's Betrayal at Krondor we're talking about.

And the JRPG list is much much better (Though the lack of Suikoden 2 infuriates me).
What is this place?
JRPGCodex?

 

[tuluse]

Sceptic is right. Like it or not, RPG Codex is more or less a direct descendant of the Black Isle fandom of the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's a legacy we can never completely shake off.

Is this a legacy we want to shake off?

 

[Infinitron]

Sceptic is right. Like it or not, RPG Codex is more or less a direct descendant of the Black Isle fandom of the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's a legacy we can never completely shake off.

Is this a legacy we want to shake off?

No, not really. Staying loyal to it has given us great incline recently. Wasteland 2, Project Eternity, Torment.

 

[Krivol]

Icewind Dale and TOEE don't belong on the list. Ultima 7 and Betrayal at Krondor do. Also one of the Wizardry and Gold Box games.

Trash is correct. Not sure what Grunker is butthurt about, it's not like he voted these in.

Pool of Radiance for example, should be much higher on the list than either Icewind Dale or TOEE.

I agree. I'm playing ID now and it is boring. It's only little more user friendly than PoR, but rest is worse.

 

[tuluse]

All this talk of legacies made me think of T:ToN. Someone needs to shop a codex troll into the red tide of this picture.

 

[Cassidy]

what's the point of making lists like these when almost everyone who reads them has already heard of and fully experienced almost all of the games on them?

I N T E R N E T D R A M A

 

[felipepepe]

Sceptic is right. Like it or not, RPG Codex is more or less a direct descendant of the Black Isle fandom of the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's a legacy we can never completely shake off.

Is this a legacy we want to shake off?

No, not really. Staying loyal to it has given us great incline recently. Wasteland 2, Project Eternity, Torment.

We need more Bloober fans for Cleve's Grimoire!

 

[Crispy]

Codex Top Twelve. Nice.

 

[eric__s]

More like best RPGs of the late 90s/early 00s (and New Vegas).

This is so clearly a 20-something'er's idea of the top RPGs of all time.

I am disappointed in your level of Codex. Smells of

It's a class issue, not an age issue. The number of people who had computers in the 80s and 90s was proportionally lower than the 2000s because they cost more money and did less. Also consider a lot of people who post here are from countries less affluent than Western Europe and the US. Until recently, computers were luxuries of the middle class.

 

[Trash]

Sceptic is right. Like it or not, RPG Codex is more or less a direct descendant of the Black Isle fandom of the late 90s and early 2000s, and it's a legacy we can never completely shake off.

Partly. Most of the founders came for instance from the old 'by mutants for mutants' boards. In the early years heated discussion here was mostly about rtwp vs turn-based. There wasn't continuous discussion about the older games since it was assumed most knew those and there was more concern about the future. The thing was that many here felt like rpg's (and gaming in general) was taking a turn for the worst. That basically was the prevailing motive of those days.

 

[Grunker]

People suggesting different methods of voting: I personally don't care how it's done (though I think it should be up to those who put work into it, Jaesun and felipepepe in this case, and fuck everyone else who don't do shit), but I hope you realize people will bitch no matter which method is used. In fact, I suspect that's half the reason for doing these.