Community RPG Codex People's Awards: Best RPGs

[Jaesun]

YOU MAD BRO?

 

[greywolf00]

So baffled I had to break super lurk mode and create an account to respond to this list. What is going on with that console list? How does Suikoden 2 and Lunar Silver Star Story fail to even crack the top 50 and yet Vagrant Story is in the Top 10?! Rarity in the age of emulators is meaningless.

 

[tuluse]

Wow, decided to break my lurking to voice my disappointment in those polls, especially the fact that only 3 of the top 10 Computer RPG's are even 90's games.

Especially ToEE, Arcanum and Vampire, which are downright unplayable without mods. Even Fallout 2 had over 800 vanilla bugs left in the game after official patches, Killap over at NMA recently discovered at least 20 more vanilla bugs and this is 14 years later, imagine how many more of lurking in the code itself. I'm strongly of the opinion that early dungeon crawlers like Bard's Tale II on Apple IIG, Darkside of Xeen, Star Trail, Crusaders of the Dark Savant, and others, deserve a place on that list. These games were good straight out of the box.

Edit: Also the JRPG list is bad too, Shin Megami Tensei I & II are missing, yet they managed to add the PS2 game?

New Vegas I think deserves to be 1# on Most Buggy Games That Ever Managed To Get Released

Mission Mojave, which is a fan project to fix bugs in the game, has a record 27,000 vanilla fixes. I uninstalled that game after I was unable to even finish a simple quest without opening the console and using kill commands on every nearby NPC in the building to get around the bugs.

An absolute disgrace of a "game", how it even managed to get released is unfathomable.

Snikt's definition of the best cRPG: the one with the fewest bugs.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

I didn't encounter a single bug when I played New Vegas. I had a great experience right from the first minute.

Found loads in Bethesda's games though. I know they are rightly reviled on the Codex, but they got better reviews and better sales than anything Obsidian's ever done.

I expect to see retarded comments on other websites about New Vegas' so-called unplayability, I don't expect to see it on the Codex.

 

[Jaesun]

Joined: Sunday
All you need to know....

 

[MicoSelva]

Interesting that nobody has anything to say about the staff's opinions on the games, though.

Ah, the endless search for feedback.
My opinions seem to correlate most with yours and Grunker's, while Trash's and JarlFrank's were kind of hit/miss, but it was great to read various viewpoints on all of the games and I would find it hard to actually disagree with any of them, as they were all valid in their respect.
I can't comment on DU's opinions, as I'm never sure when he's joking and when he's dead serious (as in "ban this fucker" serious).

EDIT: Oh yeah, the console RPGs list. I agree with #1. I'm not sure I've played any of the others, except maybe FF7, but it was kind of meh, and FF9, which I liked.

 

[Snikt]

But lurking and reading your posts for longer

 

[Lautreamont]

We need a list limited to cRPGs before Fallout's release. Please.

 

[Scruffy]

Wow, I can only get to number two on the list before rolling my eyes in shame. Good job on having shitty taste cockdex

try harder, newfag

 

[Excidium]

I didn't encounter a single bug when I played New Vegas. I had a great experience right from the first minute.

Found loads in Bethesda's games though. I know they are rightly reviled on the Codex, but they got better reviews and better sales than anything Obsidian's ever done.

I expect to see retarded comments on other websites about New Vegas' so-called unplayability, I don't expect to see it on the Codex.

It's not unplayable but it does have some terrible bugs if you are (un)lucky enough to experience them, not to mention the loading times increasing immensily the longer you play. Last time I played I didn't get the dialog prompt to get patted down after entering Gomorrah and had to use a console command to be able to move (didn't want to reload and wait 10 minutes through 3 loading screens).

There's one bug that is really easy to reproduce: if you choose to redistribute your stats before leaving goodsprings, it doesn't remove your Skilled trait so you can take it twice.

 

[MicoSelva]

We need a list limited to cRPGs before Fallout's release. Please.

It's actually not a bad idea to make a Codex Top 10 Classic* RPGs, either created by staff / prominent members or by poll. I would love to read such a thing, especially with commentary.

* for me "classic" means a game more than 20 years old, but it may be anything between 15 and 25, I guess.

 

[Scruffy]

Arcanum not in top3, Betrayal at Krondor WORSE than Icewind Dale? This website pretends to be against decline, but clearly embodies decline itself. And how is Fallout 2 a good rpg? It’s fun and all, but it’s not even close to stuff like… uh… even new vegas… or gothic 2 for that matter. And Icewind dale is an attempt to make money by appealing to Diablo fans, how is IWD even an rpg, it’s a slash and hack with D&D rules ffs… shit, this article ruined my day.

 

[LeStryfe79]

 

[Excidium]

It's a list of popularity, dumbass. Where the fuck is BaK more popular than IWD?

And how is Fallout 2 a good rpg? It’s fun and all, but it’s not even close to stuff like… uh… even new vegas… or gothic 2 for that matter.

Right.

 

[Grunker]

If there's anything that shows that the 'dex's taste has deteriorated, it's that Arcanum is not in the top 3.

Arcanum slowly declining on this list each time Jaesun polls the Codex is the surest sign that things are processing in the right direction

 

[Scruffy]

It's a list of popularity, dumbass. Where the fuck is BaK more popular than IWD?

And how is Fallout 2 a good rpg? It’s fun and all, but it’s not even close to stuff like… uh… even new vegas… or gothic 2 for that matter.

Right.

so "best" means "more popular"? right.

 

[Excidium]

Maybe people are finally seeing Arcanum for what it is.

It's a list of popularity, dumbass. Where the fuck is BaK more popular than IWD?

And how is Fallout 2 a good rpg? It’s fun and all, but it’s not even close to stuff like… uh… even new vegas… or gothic 2 for that matter.

Right.

so "best" means "more popular"? right.

Where does it say "best"? How could a popular vote list like this even list games based on their quality?

 

[Syl]

I actually just did that poll on my own out of sheer curiosity. Since the last one I did forced you to only list 5 games as your top 5, that was fucking brutal. I was curious how such a list would turn out if given a chance to vote for your top 20.

Next time, ask people to list ALL the games they have played and then pick their favorites. This way we'll know if they really played the older games and choose not to vote for them.

That would be unreasonable as you'd have have to split it up into different categories or weigh the votes of individuals differently based on what they've played.

I wonder if a good methodology exists for this.

 

[felipepepe]

We need a list limited to cRPGs before Fallout's release. Please.

It's actually not a bad idea to make a Codex Top 10 Classic* RPGs, either created by staff / prominent members or by poll. I would love to read such a thing, especially with commentary.

* for me "classic" means a game more than 20 years old, but it may be anything between 15 and 25, I guess.

If we are gonna do something like this, it should be by selected monocled gentleman... people that actually played all/most of the games, or the same problem/butthurt will happen: "waaahhhh Wasteland wins just because of recent popularity, while gems like Lord British unreleased first game never get's all the love it deserves..."

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

I didn't encounter a single bug when I played New Vegas. I had a great experience right from the first minute.

Same here. I didn't encounter any major problems. New Vegas being so high up on the list is fine with me.

Why do people complain about New Vegas being there but not about Bloodlines? There's no reason Bloodlines couldn't work on a console.

 

[LeStryfe79]

This clusterfuck is truly majestic. Bravo Codex, Bravo!

 

[Deleted member 7219]

I didn't encounter a single bug when I played New Vegas. I had a great experience right from the first minute.

Same here. I didn't encounter any major problems. New Vegas being so high up on the list is fine with me.

Why do people complain about New Vegas being there but not about Bloodlines? There's no reason Bloodlines couldn't work on a console.

Tommy Wiseau?

"I didn't hit her, I know I didn't- oh, hi Mark!"

 

[TripJack]

list is good for what it is

wait i already made this joke, why are we having this thread again?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

We need a list limited to cRPGs before Fallout's release. Please.

Yeah, let's add restrictions to prevent people from voting on what they actually want to. The list will be worthless but hey at least it'll make us look monocled and shit.

 

[Scruffy]

Maybe people are finally seeing Arcanum for what it is.

It's a list of popularity, dumbass. Where the fuck is BaK more popular than IWD?

And how is Fallout 2 a good rpg? It’s fun and all, but it’s not even close to stuff like… uh… even new vegas… or gothic 2 for that matter.

Right.

so "best" means "more popular"? right.

Where does it say "best"? How could a popular vote list like this even list games based on their quality?

right in the title