Vapourware Scam Citizen - Only people with too much money can become StarCitizens! WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

[Direwolf]

I'm sure they'll want to, but I don't think the kind of person who'd spend $30000 on imaginary spaceships is physically capable of killing anyone.

Dunno. They get close enough and then just fall on Chris and wait for him to suffocate. That might work.

 

[OndrejSc]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...hris-roberts-insatiable-ambition-is-to-blame/

 

[Metro]

Out of cash? Guess that plundering the company coffers thing is true.

 

[Chamezero]

I really don't understand the gamergate reference or why so much was dedicated to that. Who cares?

"Da people attacking me are evil gamergaters and those are bad, r-right games j-journalists? pls do not report on my fuck ups I'm your friend"
It's obvious why he is doing this shit, c'mon.
He just proved Smart right and commited sudoku with that article, bye Roberts.

 

[Metro]

 

[OndrejSc]

 

[omega21]

How the hell has this become so cult-like

 

[Lyric Suite]

i like that after so many years, people need Derek Smart and Escapist to see that this is a cash grab...

I don't think it was a premeditated con. Fatso and his trophy wife just could't keep their hands off the cookie jar. Chris Roberts is not a criminal mastermind, he is a pathetic man child who was irresponsibly put in charge of million of dollars and thought he could let himself go and still work things out in the end.

 

[Night Goat]

How the hell has this become so cult-like

Sunk Cost Fallacy. People have invested so much in Star Citizen that they can't accept the possibility of losing their investments, so instead they go all in with the retardation.

 

[Ninjerk]

Why doesn't anyone worth a shit ever get handed money hand-over-fist?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Sunk Cost Fallacy. People have invested so much in Star Citizen that they can't accept the possibility of losing their investments, so instead they go all in with the retardation.

Yeah, but the investment in question is mostly an emotional one.

 

[OndrejSc]

Yeah, but the investment in question is mostly an emotional one.

That would be fandom. This looks to me more like FinDom: "Chris Roberts' about to make you his bitch."

 

[Morgoth]

LoL I created this thread but still haven't pledged my hard earned €24 on this.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/art...alk-Star-Citizen-and-the-State-of-the-Company

Probably a good decision.

 

[theSavant]

Eight hours to write that response? Goodness.

Yes, but it takes a lot of time to write a response when being personally affected, but trying to stay professional. It's understandable some not so good phrases slipped, but overall the response is OK. However... I still don't know what to make out of this theatre, what is wrong and what is right.

The only advantage of these media outcomes is, that it could make Chris Roberts reconsider some design decisions and focus on a game which they can actually accomplish.

 

[tyrannosaurus rex]

I tried to get a quick understanding of what's going on but I didn't because you all suck at making what you're talking about clear.

Why is this game a trainwreck?

 

[Beowulf]

Because there's no game. As of yet. The development process might be a trainwreck according to some sources, but either way it provides entertainment and the perspective of watching some high-pledgers melting will fulfil codex expectation of a good thread (not that I know anything about that, I'm still a nowociota).

 

[Morgoth]

I tried to get a quick understanding of what's going on but I didn't because you all suck at making what you're talking about clear.

Why is this game a trainwreck?

Because Chris and wife Sandi are psychopaths that terrorize their employees. They also can't manage money. Game Over.

 

[tyrannosaurus rex]

Oh well why not give it some time? Kingdom Come looked a bit like a trainwreck now it's going along fine.

 

[Chamezero]

Vavra didn't sell virtual horses for $20,000

 

[J_C]

Vavra didn't sell virtual horses for $20,000

Selling virtual ships is not the problem of SC.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Oh well why not give it some time? Kingdom Come looked a bit like a trainwreck now it's going along fine.

Kingdom Come wasn't mismanaged though. It was vaporware for a while because they couldn't secure enough funding. SC appears to be the oppose. They have billions of dollars in funding but they are squandering their resources away like there's no tomorrow. Or at least it appears to be that way.

Also, this:

lol

 

[Metro]

Her face looks pretty masculine there.

 

[Chamezero]

 

[udm]

Dunno. They get close enough and then just fall on Chris and wait for him to suffocate. That might work.

Except looking at the rate ol' Chris is growing, it might actually be the other way around.

 

[Whiran]

I tried to get a quick understanding of what's going on but I didn't because you all suck at making what you're talking about clear.

Why is this game a trainwreck?

The game is taking a long time to be ready.
Some people are wondering why it is taking so long.
Every milestone was missed - the original full release was Nov 2014.

After three years there are only "modules" that don't seem connected and the core (the galaxy) of the game does not yet appear to exist at all. This delay has created anxiety in some who wanted to believe that an amazing game would have a development cycle of a year or two.

Star Citizen employs some 200+ people and therefore has a burn rate of ~2-3 million a month in salaries and overhead.

Someone estimated that there was around 8 million in the bank (so around three to four months if they receive no more monies.)

A known agitator started "investigating" how the money was being spent - it's an easy target since there were and are clear management inefficiencies. Plus every milestone was missed so it's even easier to ask questions like, "What is happening? Why is the game delayed?" As an "industry expert" he claimed that what Star Citizen was going to be could not be done for anything less than hundreds of millions (I think the figure he used was around 200 million? something like that.)

The game has raised ~90 million to date. That's a lot of money when looked at as a lump sum. Most people don't know the cost of having employees. If they are paying out 2 million / month (which is a reasonable and conservative amount it's probably closer to 3 million at this time) that's 24 million a year. Three years - that's 72 million. If there is around 8 million in the bank that leaves 10 million "missing." The number is an easy target for simplified math that can be spun in a questionable manner.

Since the number is large there is a fair amount of... room for "softness" in the budget. This means there is a strong possibility of monetary mismanagement and waste. Chances are they have mismanaged their money. Even if that was "only" 10% of the budget that's still 9 million that was wasted.

Now ex-employees who were disheartened by their experience at the company have spoken out on their complaints. They are being given a platform.

Is it all true? Probably to an extent but is it the end or a total catastrophe? I don't think so. A game like what Star Citizen wound up being is going to take a long time to make - based on the development cycles of MMOs and other large projects. I wouldn't be surprised if it would take some five+ years to complete given the scope of the project. Unfortunately instead of communicating that Cloud Imperium continues to insist that the game is just around the corner and with a little more support... at least that's how it seems to me. I could be very wrong since I don't follow the game that closely. For all I know they could have the stated completion date to be in 2017.