Tales of Maj'Eyal

[Kabas]

– Get a teleport rune if you don't already have one

Blink rune you mean?

Oh damn, yes, good catch. Sorry, should have checked what I wrote before pressing 'reply'.

/e: while I'm here, what would you guys say is your favorite race/class combination? I'm gonna start another character in a week or so, and am looking for ideas.

Hard choice, so many good options.
I recall having the most fun with the reworked rogue last time i played.

 

[lukaszek]

rogue with arcane trickery is fun. Pair it with traps, poisons and some limited knife throwing for 'trickster' build. Addition of knife throwing changed everything, they are basically ranged melee attack

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I have this strange obsession with Higher Human - Spellblade. Trying so hard to win this one but always kinda failed.

 

[Kabas]

Addition of knife throwing changed everything, they are basically ranged melee attack

A ranged attack against which disarm doesn't work i must add.
I played as a skeleton rogue to be exact. Skeleton features my least favourite racials to be honest and the highest XP penalty is just blegh, the only race that i pick for pure meme reasons.
This combination does give you an access to a certain named shirt made of human skin that screams and gives you penalty to stealth unless wearer is undead. Shame that stealth tree kinda sucks.

 

[Kabas]

Someone dared to dissagree with me

I still stand by my opinion about skeletons,

luj1.​

Sure, all skeleton abilities are straightforward and useful, 5/5 points into each talent no brain. But that's the exact thing i hate about them. There is no reason to pick skeleton and NOT put 5 points into each racial. i hate it!

All this talk about the game made want to play it again.

 

[notpl]

Addition of knife throwing changed everything, they are basically ranged melee attack

A ranged attack against which disarm doesn't work i must add.
I played as a skeleton rogue to be exact. Skeleton features my least favourite racials to be honest and the highest XP penalty is just blegh, the only race that i pick for pure meme reasons.
This combination does give you an access to a certain named shirt made of human skin that screams and gives you penalty to stealth unless wearer is undead. Shame that stealth tree kinda sucks.

I understand saying skeleton has your "least-favorite" (not going to spell it that way, sorry, we fought that war for a reason) racials, since second-strongest-after-shalore doesn't necessarily mean you have to like them, but saying stealth sucks? Good lord have you ever even really played a rogue?

 

[Kabas]

My memories are vague, but i recall people talking about stealth tree not being vey useful considering how common the crowds of enemies are in this game and trying it in practice didn't prove them wrong.
Did i use it wrong or they changed it while i was away?

 

[lukaszek]

My memories are vague, but i recall people talking about stealth tree not being vey useful considering how common the crowds of enemies are in this game and trying it in practice didn't prove them wrong.
Did i use it wrong or they changed it while i was away?

stealth tree becomes worse on higher difficulties. On normal is awesome since you can do most of the actions at range without breaking it.

 

[Kabas]

Just took a stealth based rogue for a little spin.
Yeah, i have a brain rot. Stealth tree isn't that bad.

 

[xuerebx]

FUCK YEAHHH!!!!!!

Had 2 lives left - went against the Grand Corrupter. He cut me a deal and we went to Zigur. Killed the town's inhabitants, then I killed him!

Went to Dreadfall, got killed by a fucking skeleton. Then got killed by the Master. No lives left and I tried a hit and run approach. Slowly but surely (must have been at least an hour?) I KILLED THE MASTER!

Level 31, unlocked the

races/classes

Wanderer, Skeleton, Reaver, Corrupter, Ogre

on this playthrough. I'll probably die soon since I have no lives left, but very happy with this run using a Temporal Warden.

 

[Kabas]

Congrats on beating master
I see you unlocked a bunch of options, a sign of the worthwhile run.

Level 31, unlocked the Wanderer, Skeleton, Reaver, Corrupter, Ogre on this playthrough. I'll probably die soon since I have no lives left, but very happy with this run using a Temporal Warden.

My absolutely objective feelings aside, a good race. Very straightforward talents.
A now that you unlocked the murder wizard you too can learn the joy of bringing your friends to hell.

 

[xuerebx]

:D

You mean the "C" class right? I spoilered my post (thanks for the heads up)

 

[notpl]

I remember when I unlocked corruptor I immediately won two of them in a row. Hellishly powerful class, pun intended.

 

[Dhaze]

... got killed by the Master. No lives left and I tried a hit and run approach. Slowly but surely (must have been at least an hour?) I KILLED THE MASTER!

Rejoice! for once again victory over The Master is achieved via the ancestral and most honorable technique known as poke 'im to death. Glad you're having fun.

 

[Lacrymas]

It's generally considered that the game becomes easier after killing the Master, so you shouldn't have much problems after that. A few caveats, however. I'm almost done with my necromancer playthrough and I've died only twice (once to get lich form and once in a vault). The "legit" death was in a vault in the East, which is one of the caveats. Optional content in the East is hellish, vaults become gauntlets you almost can't escape from, the infamous Vor armory room exists, sludge tunnels are a whole mess if you go for the achievement(s), the optional areas like the underwater temple and moon lake aren't exactly easy, etc. So I suggest just beelining the main plot if you want to complete the game, with the exception of the backup guardians when you go back to the West. They are easy and fast, but drop good items. Since you'll be max level pretty soon after going to the East, there isn't all that much of an incentive to complete optional areas unless you want the unlocks. The items you get are a bit pointless imo because you are already quite powerful. Yeah, you can get some pretty crazy good items and I'm not saying it's not fun playing around with them, just that if you want to kill the last boss it's safer to avoid the optional content. Even though Necromancer is grotesquely overpowered, I still won't go do the optional content in this playthrough because the weaknesses of the class (lack of mobility, lack of survivability cooldowns, loss of 90% of your power when your minions die if you are minion-based, tight corridors) don't give me hope, let me tell you. I think you can go do the unlocks after you complete the game anyway, though? But yeah, the East has the tendency to make you overestimate your character and boldly go into every danger imaginable, so don't fall into that trap ;d

Oh, and the orc prides are boring compared to the entire rest of the game. They are too long and samey, with basically nothing in them that can considerably threaten you. If I were to mod the game, I'd remove 2 of them. The believablilty of the story also suffers because of them. The paladin chick in the gates of mourning tells you they've fought the prides for years, if not more, but you stroll in there and massacre the entire orc population on your own. Everything before that is pretty par for the course for an RPG adventurer, necromancers in old towers, rabid animals in a forest, clearing out caves, etc.

 

[xuerebx]

Thanks for the tips! With zero lives left I will try to aim in completing just the main quest, if I manage to live through it. Then I'll tackle the optional content later (either with the same character if I can continue playing after beating the final boss, or with a new character).

 

[Kabas]

Things indeed quickly turn to boring once you're strong enough to steamroll almost everything the game throws at you.
There is a rather beginner friendly class you can unlock early in the far east.

 

[Dhaze]

Then I'll tackle the optional content later (either with the same character if I can continue playing after beating the final boss, or with a new character).

Yes, you can keep playing with the same character after beating the big baddie.

 

[Lacrymas]

Just won as a necromancer on Nightmare - https://te4.org/characters/251169/tome/84f8ca5c-4578-4f58-bf50-a122c3def6a7

I died once in the last battle, it's always very chaotic and I'm never sure what I should be doing, lol. This was by far my easiest playthrough and necro is stupidly powerful, almost impossible to kill. I went with a minion build, but it wasn't my favorite playstyle. If I were to ever make a necro agian, I'm going with a more caster-oriented build.

 

[Kabas]

Yep, i really miss the time when everything felt new in the game and i didn't have everything unlocked.
Has anyone heard any news about that lost land dlc?

 

[lukaszek]

Lacrymas prides are in general really hard for my rogue characters. To me master was easy, death were coming in prides with casters attacking you off the screen even when you are sneaking and having no means of escaping

 

[Lacrymas]

Lacrymas prides are in general really hard for my rogue characters. To me master was easy, death were coming in prides with casters attacking you off the screen even when you are sneaking and having no means of escaping

I've never played any rogue classes, but I'm planning my next playthrough to be with a Shadowblade, so I'll see how that goes. What can be dangerous in the prides is casters teleporting you around and forcing you into a bad position, so that's probably scary for rogues.

 

[xuerebx]

Woo unlocked the necro class! Found 3/4 lore pieces during my TW playthrough.

Obtained a life and lost it in Vor Armoury, now back to zero lives left. I hope I manage to beat the game with this guy!

https://te4.org/characters/300642/tome/37915539-598e-4354-9414-6070d6916422

 

[Lacrymas]

Necro is one of the most complicated classes to unlock, so gj. Not only because of RNG but also because you can't randomly stumble upon the unlock like many of the others by simply exploring optional zones or doing damage.

 

[xuerebx]

Yeah I was lucky I guess, finding 3 out of 4 in the same playthrough. Actually might have found all 4 but the 2nd note I had already found on my previous character.

For my next character I'm eager to try out Corrupter and Necro, and maybe use a Yeek, Skeleton or Ogre.