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Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread

BruceVC

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But whats happening now in BG1 is my wizard basically holds back in combat because I dont like sleeping to relearn my one spell after every combat

So, you rolled a 12 INT mage?
Next time, roll a 6 STR fighter instead, I've heard it's really fun to play...
No my INT is 17 but you only get 1 spell ?
 
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BruceVC

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But whats happening now in BG1 is my wizard basically holds back in combat because I dont like sleeping to relearn my one spell after every combat

So, you rolled a 12 INT mage?
Next time, roll a 6 STR fighter instead, I've heard it's really fun to play...
No my INT is 17 but you only get 1 spell ?
he's a 3.5e baby that doesn't understand the intricacies of AD&D
I love it when people are condescending and wrong :D
 
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Yeah, and a +1 ring on the map before, but I always feel using that and the free ankheg armor is pretty close to cheating

I'd say the wizardry ring specifically just makes mages more playable early game. Properly equipped and statted fighter PCs can dominate whole maps at level 1 while mages get to cast sleep once. It's also less cheating than farming Basilisks/Ankhegs/etc.

+1 ring is... nice but fairly minor.

Ankheg armor can be pretty huge though.
 
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In original BG1 you didn't get the ability to have containers outlined for you, so the only way to find it would be if you actually moved your mouse over the small part of that tree and noticed the icon switch. So it was kind of a hidden easter egg, though it's been well known by everyone thanks to the internet
 

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In original BG1 you didn't get the ability to have containers outlined for you, so the only way to find it would be if you actually moved your mouse over the small part of that tree and noticed the icon switch. So it was kind of a hidden easter egg, though it's been well known by everyone thanks to the internet
I can imagine, that must have been quite a find. I didnt find it so Im going to go get it. Its useful for my wizard who is getting more effective but still relatively weak on level 2
 

oldmanpaco

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The BG2 one has an encounter where you can try to rape someone. It's kinda wild.
I dont remember that, do you remember where it was?

It's the one where the brother asks you to rescue his kidnapped sister and then you "claim" your reward. I remember all the bitches in my party having a cow about it. In the slums by the CC I think.

edit: It's been like a decade, so not sure if it's changed since then.
 

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It's the one where the brother asks you to rescue his kidnapped sister and then you "claim" your reward. I remember all the bitches in my party having a cow about it. In the slums by the CC I think.

edit: It's been like a decade, so not sure if it's changed since then.
Jaheira and Aerie break up with you over it. Viconia just makes a comment about your lack of taste.
 

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I love it when people are condescending and wrong :D

INT max spell lvl - spells per lvl - learning success rate - lore bonus

17 8th 14 75% +7
18 9th 18 85% +10
19 9th 99 95% +12

So with your 17 INT mage, you have 25% chances of failure while trying to learn a spell from a scroll, wasting it.
Maximum of 14 spells per level and less lore.

Also, don't brag because +1 INT is actually free, it's extremely fast and easy, like 30/60 seconds to get a decent roll with max DEX INT and a good constitution with no negative scores and even some STR for carrying capabilities and some CHA.

Last but not least, only retards and casuals go straight mages in BG 1, what you do is:
  • Gnome Illusionist/thief (19 INT)
  • Whatever Conjurer
  • Any other specialist that's not a diviner
  • At least a dual class High HP up until level 7 which turn into a mage later.
  • Another multi-class
Because specialists gets +1 spell slot per spell level and +2 to DC of their favorite school.
Second best thing is multi or dual class because of BG 1 xp limit.
 
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Sarathiour

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Ho, I remember that kinda have something similar in bg1 nc project, some sort of quest whith xan when you run into a group of slaver who took three elf, there is an option to "use them" afterward, but it only lead you to a fight against them + xan.
 

oldmanpaco

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It's the one where the brother asks you to rescue his kidnapped sister and then you "claim" your reward. I remember all the bitches in my party having a cow about it. In the slums by the CC I think.

edit: It's been like a decade, so not sure if it's changed since then.
Jaheira and Aerie break up with you over it. Viconia just makes a comment about your lack of taste.
Proving again who is the best waifu.
 
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I love it when people are condescending and wrong :D

INT max spell lvl - spells per lvl - learning success rate - lore bonus

17 8th 14 75% +7
18 9th 18 85% +10
19 9th 99 95% +12

So with your 17 INT mage, you have 25% chances of failure while trying to learn a spell from a scroll, wasting it.
Maximum of 14 spells per level and less lore.

Also, don't brag because +1 INT is actually free, it's extremely fast and easy, like 30/60 seconds to get a decent roll with max DEX INT and a good constitution with no negative scores and even some STR for carrying capabilities and some CHA.

Last but not least, only retards and casuals go straight mages in BG 1, what you do is:
  • Gnome Illusionist/thief (19 INT)
  • Whatever Conjurer
  • Any other specialist that's not a diviner
  • At least a dual class High HP up until level 7 which turn into a mage later.
  • Another multi-class
Because specialists gets +1 spell slot per spell level and +2 to DC of their favorite school.
Second best thing is multi or dual class because of BG 1 xp limit.

Cool post bro but you implied that higher int gave you more spells per day which it clearly does not. Take the loss.

When it comes to the actual benefits of INT you don't really need that much because you can always just down 2-3 potions of genius and then learn all your spells. This becomes useful if you want max STR/DEX/CON/WIS (for wishing) and don't have left over for INT. Or you just want CHA for prices. And if you don't have the potion you can just buy another spell scroll.
 

The Limper

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Gnome I/T is a great choice. Then just dual Imoen at 3rd level to Mage, it gives her a nice HP boost for a mage or just dump her for Minsc’s Mom. Add Whiny Khalid and Bossy Jaheira and you still got room for Minsc and Kivan/Coran. Ajantis is just terrible and miserable. Still dont understand why there were no Pirate NPCs. It is an ocean port city for crying out loud….. one likable f/t would of been great, especially a CN aligned pirate.
 
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Kaigan's saves are great and the Dex Gauntlets solve a lot, but its his 20CON score that makes him the best meat shield. He will typically regenerate all of his health when traveling from map to map. Invaluable for a tank. Especially at low level when money is tight and casts per day are low. The only better tank is the dwarf fighter/cleric Yeslick. By the time you get him, Kaigan's regeneration isn't necessary.

The Limper Safana is the pirate.
 

BruceVC

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I have had some unintentional party changes, Kagain threw his toys and left the party because I still haven't found the noblemen's son. I was going to kill him for his insolence but I believe in Democracy and if he wants to leave the GREATEST adventure in his life and miss the opportunity of spending many nights around the fire with the beautiful and seductive Viconia thats his problem

So I was left with a fighter\tank shortage but I enlisted Kivan and Im very impressed, he is effective in battle and offers some good dialogue lines and some hilarious interaction with Imoen

I also have changed my combat strategy. With Kivan I now have 3 x archers who initially can inflict long range damage and then I use the party formation of 3 x 2 rows while exploring. So I moved my wizard to row 2 which means when I see a group of enemies from a distance I can quickly cast AOE spells like Color Spray which is finally making my wizard add real value in combat

Im also having some really exciting battles with named bandits in the maps south of Beregost, they tough and the combat literally goes down to my fighters winning with 3 HP left after using all my healing potions. I get good loot and scalps from these battles

My party is still mostly on level 2 but Imoen is on level 3 and the adventure is progressing nicely :salute:
 

The Limper

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Kaigan's saves are great and the Dex Gauntlets solve a lot, but its his 20CON score that makes him the best meat shield. He will typically regenerate all of his health when traveling from map to map. Invaluable for a tank. Especially at low level when money is tight and casts per day are low. The only better tank is the dwarf fighter/cleric Yeslick. By the time you get him, Kaigan's regeneration isn't necessary.

The Limper Safana is the pirate.
How the heck did I forget about Safana? Jeez Im getting old…
 

Palomides

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Kaigan's saves are great and the Dex Gauntlets solve a lot, but its his 20CON score that makes him the best meat shield. He will typically regenerate all of his health when traveling from map to map. Invaluable for a tank. Especially at low level when money is tight and casts per day are low. The only better tank is the dwarf fighter/cleric Yeslick. By the time you get him, Kaigan's regeneration isn't necessary.

The Limper Safana is the pirate.
How the heck did I forget about Safana? Jeez Im getting old…
She's utterly one-note and made even worse by SOD. It's better to forget her.
 

barricade

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im playing BG1EE, and i can't believe they added BG2 spells wtf. these are making the game a bit unbalanced now. so, is there a mod that removes all these unecessary spells?
 

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