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Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread

barricade

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There is. Instead of playing BG1EE you can just play BG1~ :done:

gave it a try, but it lags, tried to upscale the resolution but everything looks blurry and ugly, tried the widescreen mod but everything looks too tiny. but i found a way to solve my problem anyway, just gonna avoid the BG2 spells. done.
 
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I can't really recall which spells BG2 adds that would horribly imbalance BG1. In any case consider playing with SCS anyway if you're looking for a more challenging game.

Lot of spell have been changed between bg1 and 2, summoning spell in particualr.
This too, EE is actually a big nerf to some of the abuse you could do in BG1.
 

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I can't really recall which spells BG2 adds that would horribly imbalance BG1. In any case consider playing with SCS anyway if you're looking for a more challenging game.

Lot of spell have been changed between bg1 and 2, summoning spell in particualr.
This too, EE is actually a big nerf to some of the abuse you could do in BG1.
I agree, I am not finding that with my wizard? The wizard spells at least seem normal like magic missile, web, color spray, blindness, mirror image

And Im not experiencing an imbalance because all enemy spell users seem to have effective spells as well ?
 

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Nowadays I cba to play the first few levels of bg1 with the shit thac0s. So I just take my level 1 character with a Protection From Pertification scroll and go kill basilisks with my best bud Korax. I play with SCS anyways.
 

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Nowadays I cba to play the first few levels of bg1 with the shit thac0s. So I just take my level 1 character with a Protection From Pertification scroll and go kill basilisks with my best bud Korax. I play with SCS anyways.
I looked into SCS and it has some great enhancements and changes but since this is my first play through I am happy with the standard EE ruleset
 

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Any normal person only ever plays BG1 for the stat tomes for importing your PC into BG2 so who gives a shit about muh balance. I thought this place was anti-balance anyway.
 

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im playing BG1EE, and i can't believe they added BG2 spells wtf. these are making the game a bit unbalanced now. so, is there a mod that removes all these unecessary spells?

Play with SCS. Gameplay is much better and you'll be needing those BG2 assets.
 

Sratopotator

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Last 3 pages made me reinstall after 8 year long detox. Kurwa.

I did a solo F/M/T run previously, starting from BG1, but got burned out hard after completing the Spellhold-Underdark loop (ToB, you piece of shit, I never get to play you, and I don't even like you that much).
Only thing that I remember from the run was that Bodhi's hunting parties in Spellhold were borked in my mod setup. As I played heavily towards the Mage side, I had to rest to regen spells, so I inevitably triggered a bunch of vampire hunting parties. One of the spawns caused a 100% reproducible crash that I couldn't bypass, so I had to edit a python script with 0 python XP and fiddle with Near Infinity to make the fix. Oh, and the vampires were shamelessly and ridiculously op, probably cause of a stupid mod combo on my part, so even when the game was not crashing, it still was a challenge, to say the least.
Good times :dealwithit:
 

Sratopotator

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[Double post to get my point across better, sorry]

I don't have any of my previous files, and I don't want to spend a week researching/installing mods this time around.
As usual, browsing around for BG mods is headache inducing.

Soooo, any pointers at a nice vanilla-like EE setup? I assume setting up EEs, even considering their shortcomings, needs less effort than classic BGs, or am I wrong?
Link to a recent guide, maybe? (as recently updated as possible) Or maybe someone has a Infinity thingie installation list on hand? The mod manager app supports some kind of modlist sharing.

EET installed via the Infinity thingamajig sounds nice.
Found a compatibility list for EET, but even browsing through this limited list takes too much of my precious time. Time that I could spend playing the darn thing.

The setup I'm looking for would have stuff like SCS, better paperdolls (like what 1pp did in the past), vanilla videos and the like. I'm open to ruleset changes/fixes (nothing super duper op tho). Removing more cancerous parts of EE would be nice, but it's low priority. No new content, or only content that's absolutely amazeballs (there was nothing like that when I last checked 8 years ago). UB was ok, as well as some parts of Ascension (or current equivalent). A tweakpack so I can decide on QoL features would be cool (or should I default to some old tweak mods that I know of?).
Even a WeiDU.log from a like-minded individual will do, so I'll know more or less what to DL.
 
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"Bodhi hunts the player in spellhold" is an unfinished business component. If you install it along SCS (or any other general difficulty mod, though I don't know of any other at this point), you're basically asking for an unbalanced mess. And SCS also has it's own "parties items are taken from them in spellhold", if you're installing that too you're basically consigning yourself to unwinnable fights since casters will run out of spells and everyone else will be without their items swinging unenchanted clubs at things.
 

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"Bodhi hunts the player in spellhold" is an unfinished business component. If you install it along SCS (or any other general difficulty mod, though I don't know of any other at this point), you're basically asking for an unbalanced mess. And SCS also has it's own "parties items are taken from them in spellhold", if you're installing that too you're basically consigning yourself to unwinnable fights since casters will run out of spells and everyone else will be without their items swinging unenchanted clubs at things.

So the mod takes all your equiptment, and then pits you against mobs of vampires?. Sounds like something a typical BG modder would do.
 

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[Double post to get my point across better, sorry]

I don't have any of my previous files, and I don't want to spend a week researching/installing mods this time around.
As usual, browsing around for BG mods is headache inducing.

Soooo, any pointers at a nice vanilla-like EE setup? I assume setting up EEs, even considering their shortcomings, needs less effort than classic BGs, or am I wrong?
Link to a recent guide, maybe? (as recently updated as possible) Or maybe someone has a Infinity thingie installation list on hand? The mod manager app supports some kind of modlist sharing.

EET installed via the Infinity thingamajig sounds nice.
Found a compatibility list for EET, but even browsing through this limited list takes too much of my precious time. Time that I could spend playing the darn thing.

The setup I'm looking for would have stuff like SCS, better paperdolls (like what 1pp did in the past), vanilla videos and the like. I'm open to ruleset changes/fixes (nothing super duper op tho). Removing more cancerous parts of EE would be nice, but it's low priority. No new content, or only content that's absolutely amazeballs (there was nothing like that when I last checked 8 years ago). UB was ok, as well as some parts of Ascension (or current equivalent). A tweakpack so I can decide on QoL features would be cool (or should I default to some old tweak mods that I know of?).
Even a WeiDU.log from a like-minded individual will do, so I'll know more or less what to DL.
I used the Beamdog forums for more specific information on mods and EE, lots of useful links. Gibberlings and Spellhold is where I downloaded the mods from because Beamdog redirects you there but its worth spending a few hours familiarizing yourself with the various mods. Good luck, Im 35 hours into BG1 and loving it :cool:
 

FriendlyMerchant

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So I finally decided to fire up BG2: Shadows of Amn and I'd like to post thoughts here. These past few years have left me bored with most modern gaming, so I've been playing classics that I'd never touched before to see if they really are what they're claimed to be, or if nostalgia has blinded everybody.
Nostalgia has blinded everyone in regards to BG2. Overrated and objectively worse than BG1.
First thoughts...

So, I have a big selection of spells with the magethief and the druidfighter when I fire up the spell toolbar, which is fine. I understand that starting me with a few simple spells would violate the story and I'm a storygameplay fag. Nothing fucks my suspension of disbelief faster than gameplay violating lore; that shit is dildos. Anyhow, the fact that I can't right-click on spells in the bar to get a description is fucking criminal. I don't know what your goofy little symbols represent yet, except for the ones with arrows because hurr derr direct attack spell, so I need to read about them...

a lot. So instead I have to open the goddamned cookbook all the time.
Most old rpgs are like that, especially D&D rpgs. You were typically expected to know what things do and if you didn't, you were supposed to read the manual and rulebooks.
On to problem 2. What the fuck are those Paladin abilities I have? What book has those?
Complete paladin for AD&D should have a few kits. I think you can find most of the supplements for free with a quick search engine query.

https://naggaroth.daerma.com/2e/corerule-page=CPaH_DD05368.htm.php.html

If you can't find any of the other books, I'd look for a torrent for the 2e AD&D books. I wouldn't recommend buying them because they can be quite expensive.

You can find a description of the kits and abilities in the game via the wiki as well

https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/Paladin
I chose an Inquisitor because my experience on here tells me that the mages are going to be motherfuckers, so it was either that or Wizard Slayer. So my Inquisitor has special spell-like abilities on the task bar, and I'll be fucked if I can find a description of them anywhere. The only descriptions I can find are of the two that are unique to the Inquisitor.

Whatever, there's plenty to like, but bitching is where it's at, son. Post more tomorrow, gotta get sleep.
I'd avoid Wizard Slayer. Not good. Funnily enough though, mages are the perfect counter to mages. Though with Paladin, you should be able to get a +5 greatsword that casts dispel on hit. You just have to kill a certain dragon for it.
 

laclongquan

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NOt so much nostalgia but overplays. The last time I play BG2 (even with SCS to change things), which is last year, I get bored immediately because I did all that shits several time already. Knew it all.

Same deal with VTMB. Played too much~
 
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I usually need long breaks from games like this because I've played them so many times, yeah.

The BG series isn't so bad though because you can do quests in a non-linear manner ftmp, and you can use different class combos to challenge yourself. A solo run with a paladin was one of my more enjoyable playthroughs, given that I usually played a mage or sorcerer.
 

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For those people that sometimes feel overwhelmed by all the mod information and " where to get it " I have included the 2 links that I found the most convenient. The first link is all the compatible mods for BG1 EE and this assumes you have SOD version of BG1 EE which is the version you will automatically buy on Steam and GOG. This list breaks the mods down nicely into easy to understand categories like " Kits and Races "

The second link is where most of the mods redirect to anyway, Gibberlings. And they also categorize the mods into sections which makes it easy to navigate. Also make sure you have the latest version of mods which Gibberlings has

The mod order install is important but always start with modmerge first but I have found different advice on this



https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/50340/bg-ee-2-0-and-siege-of-dragonspear-compatible-mods

https://www.gibberlings3.net/
 

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"Bodhi hunts the player in spellhold" is an unfinished business component. If you install it along SCS (or any other general difficulty mod, though I don't know of any other at this point), you're basically asking for an unbalanced mess. And SCS also has it's own "parties items are taken from them in spellhold", if you're installing that too you're basically consigning yourself to unwinnable fights since casters will run out of spells and everyone else will be without their items swinging unenchanted clubs at things.

So the mod takes all your equiptment, and then pits you against mobs of vampires?. Sounds like something a typical BG modder would do.
Your post really made me laugh, I cant think of anything more annoying than having to fight creatures that require magic items and a mod change removes it :D

I guess this mod change is for magic users only because how else would you defeat them with items?
 

octavius

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To get the most fun out of BG1, use the following mods:
SCS for more challenging combat. But don't overdo it.
BG1 NPC Project, and recruit Xzar and Monty. They are easily the best contribution to this mod.

And for added challenge use Hard Times. There's an Iron Crisis. BG1 EE makes a mockery out of it, with cheap magic weapons for sale; this mod (last time I checked not available for EE) makes the iron crisis have real impact.

If you want even more challenging combat use aTweak's PnP Fiends. Most relevant for BG2, but the fight against the cultists in Ulgoth's Beard now becomes a real challenge.
 

d1r

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To get the most fun out of BG1, use the following mods:
SCS for more challenging combat. But don't overdo it.
BG1 NPC Project, and recruit Xzar and Monty. They are easily the best contribution to this mod.

And for added challenge use Hard Times. There's an Iron Crisis. BG1 EE makes a mockery out of it, with cheap magic weapons for sale; this mod (last time I checked not available for EE) makes the iron crisis have real impact.

If you want even more challenging combat use aTweak's PnP Fiends. Most relevant for BG2, but the fight against the cultists in Ulgoth's Beard now becomes a real challenge.

Tiax's story was pretty well done as well. The whole mod is just great.
 

Seari

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To get the most fun out of BG1, use the following mods:
SCS for more challenging combat. But don't overdo it.
BG1 NPC Project, and recruit Xzar and Monty. They are easily the best contribution to this mod.

And for added challenge use Hard Times. There's an Iron Crisis. BG1 EE makes a mockery out of it, with cheap magic weapons for sale; this mod (last time I checked not available for EE) makes the iron crisis have real impact.

If you want even more challenging combat use aTweak's PnP Fiends. Most relevant for BG2, but the fight against the cultists in Ulgoth's Beard now becomes a real challenge.
From the SCS readme:

aTweaks​

aTweaks was designed to function with SCS, but is now quite out of date (and not currently maintained). It is designed to be installed after SCS. (This is an exception to the usual rule that SCS should be installed last.) At the moment I'm fairly sure its Fiend components are at least partially incompatible with SCS Smarter Mages and Improved Fiends; to be safe, use one or the other. Its other components are probably compatible with SCS.

Also mods that add fanfic writing are cringe.
 

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