Game News The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - The Dark Brotherhood Returns

[DraQ]

Fuck, now I really want an RPG set in New Crobuzon

Would be p. cool.

I'd love to see setting like Bas-Lag, only with less derp races.

 

[Konjad]

Wait. Oblivion was "low-fantasy" and morrowind wasn't? What the fuck...Oblivion was incredibly bullshit high fantasy. Everything's so clean and they touch on just about every fantasy cliche they could think of. Morrowind was more gritty; at least the world felt lived in (although that was probably a result of the primitive 3D).

Goddammit, that's like saying the game will be more sword and sorcery like Lord of the Rings, not high fantasy like Conan.

Oblivion was pretty realistic medieval like game, not bullshit fantasy like Morrowind. In Morrowind you had shit environments while in oblivion you had realistic and beautiful forests.

I am tempted to think you are trolling, either way you have no clue what you are talking about.

Pretty realistic medieval like game? What the fuck? Konjad, you have no clue. Stop talking.

Joined: 19 Oct 2010

I never used 'join date' before as a weapon towards being blind for obvious trolling but in this case I can think of no other explanation.

 

[Konjad]

Hell, it wasn't even trolling. It was a joke. Obvious joke. Or at least I thought it was obvious.

 

[DraQ]

Wait. Oblivion was "low-fantasy" and morrowind wasn't? What the fuck...Oblivion was incredibly bullshit high fantasy. Everything's so clean and they touch on just about every fantasy cliche they could think of. Morrowind was more gritty; at least the world felt lived in (although that was probably a result of the primitive 3D).

Goddammit, that's like saying the game will be more sword and sorcery like Lord of the Rings, not high fantasy like Conan.

Oblivion was pretty realistic medieval like game, not bullshit fantasy like Morrowind. In Morrowind you had shit environments while in oblivion you had realistic and beautiful forests.

I am tempted to think you are trolling, either way you have no clue what you are talking about.

Pretty realistic medieval like game? What the fuck? Konjad, you have no clue. Stop talking.

Joined: 19 Oct 2010

I never used 'join date' before as a weapon towards being blind for obvious trolling but in this case I can think of no other explanation.

Next time don't use weapons that somehow backfire in your face.

 

[Decado]

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THIS GAME!! *POSTS IN THREAD, WRITES ABOUT GAME*

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Well, if you're gonna be picky about it...

Ah, really* , there's no way around it, even if you argue that it's "only for adventurers" or something like that:

"'Sup, wanna know about the most popular spells on sale?".

*zomg stealth pun

Actually, didn't he mostly lecture about the most popular scrolls and potions? He mentions the standard ones for both, and says maybe a sentence about the actual spells he has. Probably because the average customer can use scrolls and potions without much know-how.

Even a backwoods shit town like Seyda Neen is going to try and have a decent supply of those.

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Correction, actual spells aren't mentioned at all in his pitch.

Besides, the ones he does sell are dinky and near worthless for anyone but a beginner anyway.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Well, he talks directly about magic scrolls and potions. Potions have supernatural effects and can be made by even novices in alchemy (I think that your setting said goodby to Low-f. when a kid with a mortar & pestle can make beverages that let him play Jesus and walk on water).

He also casually talks about scrolls that instantly transport you around and summon things like someone talks about the weather.

About the spells; their relative power isn't important - the thing is that even a shitty merchant in a backwoods shit town sells spells (which, again, are things that mess with the laws of physics themselves) for a few coins. This alone puts TES beyond low-fantasy, I believe.

If we go by the wikipedia definition, TES seems to fit the high f. definition pretty well, imo.

Low fantasy contrasts with the sub-genre of High fantasy. Low fantasy is characterised by being set in the real ("Primary") world, or a rational and familiar fictional world, with the inclusion of magical elements. The opposite, high fantasy, is set in an alternative, entirely fictional ("Secondary") world with its own, albeit internally-consistent, rules that separate it from the real world. Low fantasy can be described as non-rational events occurring in a rational setting. It is important to note that the use of the word "low" is not an indication of quality but of the relative level of "fantasy" contained within a particular work of fiction.

That said, being High-fantasy isn't a demerit - the setting is internally consistent, and explanations are provided as to why eating the local flora will let you breathe underwater.

 

[Excommunicator]

Hell, it wasn't even trolling. It was a joke. Obvious joke. Or at least I thought it was obvious.

Sometimes jumping in too quickly to be like everyone else will get you hurt, Konjad.

Just remember in the future, good trolling and good humour hide an understanding of the topic.

 

[tehRPness]

Of course, the Dark Brotherhood will return. It was after all, the only well-written quest line in all of their last game.

 

[DraQ]

Of course, the Dark Brotherhood will return. It was after all, the least badly-written quest line in all of their last game.

Don't forget about linearity and being forced to carry idiot ball.

And the whole thing being band of psychopathic idiot goth kiddies killing for teh lulz and worshipping TES equivalent of second law of thermodynamics (which isn't even conscious).

 

[Mastermind]

(which isn't even conscious).

Source?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

(which isn't even conscious).

Source?

probably this.

However, Oblivion's DB takes orders from this nice old woman and these nice people.

killing for teh lulz

I think they get paid.

 

[Mastermind]

(which isn't even conscious).

Source?

probably this.

Not likely. And I've looked up every reference to Sithis I could find and there was no mention of him not being conscious.

 

[Jokerman89]

Dark Brotherhood was decent, i thought i was the best part of the game. didnt mind the thieves either. Fighters and mages guilds kinda sucked though.

If i wanted any back it would be the Dark Brotherhood, but why not have a clean slate? Its not as if there the only concept you can come up with for an assassin guild.