Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[KeighnMcDeath]

And the evolutions:


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9:47 39. Might & Magic Dynasty (2016)

10:03 40. Might & Magic : Elemental Guardians (2017)

10:20 41. Might & Magic : Era of Chaos (2019)

10:32 42. Might & Magic : Chess Royale (2020)

 

[Ysaye]

MM 4 with 2 possible NPCS which aren't displayed. Gotta admit I just don't remember much beyond Xeen. Playing these would be like playing brand new for me.

MM7 again 4 and 2 NPCS (displayed where?)

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NPCs in MM6 abd MM7 are displayed in the two boxes to the right hand side of the screen roughly half way up just below the short range map (in the instances of both of these pictures neither party have any NPCs).

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Ah ok. I'll see if I can find a screenie to replace the current ones.

 

[Karl Barx]

Wasn't Acromage made into its own little game by someone?

isnt it in game files, standalone executable?

It is its own sequence in MM7/MM8, but 3DO released it as standalone shortly after.
Forget about playing this version on anything > Windoze 98, as it has insane compatibility issues (16bpp desktop mode...).
I can thus highly recommend Arcomage Tribute, which runs on modern systems. You'll just need to feed it assets. It was shot down for obvious reasons, but archive.org and year 2017 are your friends .

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I noticed in the series of evolution of the franchise vids there is another card game and chess.

For tribute was this the last version?

 

[Fluent]

Hey guys. Just wanted to comment - what a pretty series throughout its entire existence. It's just gorgeous to look at, starting with 1 and seeing the changes along the way. Each game's art style holds its own and shines. Very cool series overall, I have to play more of it! Cheers.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

Hey guys. Just wanted to comment - what a pretty series throughout its entire existence. It's just gorgeous to look at, starting with 1 and seeing the changes along the way. Each game's art style holds its own and shines. Very cool series overall, I have to play more of it! Cheers.

Dude I like 6-8 a lot, but those games look like utter fucking ass.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I was watching the NPCs in 8 in those vids and wonder if they move. I'm a bit undecided on the best. I loved 1 but found enemies a bit annoying in 2. Perhaps the right party makes the massive amounts seem like nothing. I'm not a fan of running from battles just to move around (I see that in a lot of vids). 3-Xeen I loved. I found them easier than 1-2 actually. 6-9 I watched a few part playthroughs and they're interesting. It looks by like the changes aren't huge and I have to say 7-9 look a little rushed (more 8-9 than 7). I'd have to watch a documentary in their production and see if they were rushed. 10 looks nice but Steam + ubisoft online = annoying as hell. Add in they've cut support like abandoning the franchise and I feel less than confident for the future.

Different computers/consoles is something to explore so I'll see if I can find all the images/roms. I first played on a c64. MM2 on c64 was torture that made Bardstale seem like speedy. When i tried DOS i couldn't believe the speed.

A lot of these extra games in the franchise (besides heroes 1-4) I never tried. Even King's Bounty eludes me.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I've noticed there were a few physical releases of MMX Legacy. One is a limited edition but those aren't popping up for sale. DLC id still only ubi-steam (which is DC i guess now).

Go figure. Kind of confused on the "one-time." One time activation and offline is good to go or .. one time and if you fail to activate it.. you're fucked?

This is a different sale which might be more complete but spanish? (According to sale description from Spain)

You know... i hate online activation. A code would have been fine without hooking up.

Or do I fire up a pirate version since I already bought it but hate the computer the steam and ubi are on? Lotta extra shit just to play a game.

 

[Karl Barx]

For tribute was this the last version?

"Archmage" and "Arcomage Tribute" are 2 different remakes; I only played the latter, version alpha 0.3.5.0 -never evolved further.

I've noticed there were a few physical releases of MMX Legacy

I personally own one of these releases; collector's edition features a tissue map, very cool stuff. Manual is still utterly useless, though.

 

[Barbalos]

I've noticed there were a few physical releases of MMX Legacy. One is a limited edition but those aren't popping up for sale. DLC id still only ubi-steam (which is DC i guess now).

Spoiler

Go figure. Kind of confused on the "one-time." One time activation and offline is good to go or .. one time and if you fail to activate it.. you're fucked?

This is a different sale which might be more complete but spanish? (According to sale description from Spain)

You know... i hate online activation. A code would have been fine without hooking up.

Or do I fire up a pirate version since I already bought it but hate the computer the steam and ubi are on? Lotta extra shit just to play a game.

There is still a way to play it through as far as I could tell (I played a bit with the DLC equipment).

Check https://www.reddit.com/r/MightAndMa...t_and_magic_x_legacy_manual_code_fix_to_gain/ this thread out.

 

[Gaznak]

Somewhere deep within I do know that MM6-8 are fantastic games but for me they will never match MM3-5. Though I got acquainted with the whole MM series very late (I think it's about 10-12 years ago when I was over my 30s already) I always like to imagine a hypothetical 'young me' playing Isles of Terra and Xeen in times they had been released. The overall look and feel of MM3-5 stirs something in me, something I can't properly describe. Does nostalgia for something you never experienced before exist?

 

[Gaznak]

Oh, well, despite my own statement in "Wasting Your Time" thread I still can't quit MM6 completely. There's some weird appeal in it despite all its obvious flaws. Maybe it's similarities with previous MM games that are still present. Maybe it's great music. Maybe it's the wish to find what exactly in this game ensorcelled so many gamers through all these years. I don't know for sure but I still try to play it (unlike W&W which filled up the cup of my endurance, again).

The 'shooter-blobber' mechanics of MM6 is the main weird thing for me. Why for good God's sake I have to run in circles strafing-n-firing in party-based CRPG? Yes, there is turn-based mode. Where I can't move at all. Well, great. Train the Bow skill for everyone, stupid! I remember the fine art of arrow-throwing in MM3 where it played and felt organically and inobtrusively.

And I'm happened to be a stereotype-bound boring old fart who's used to see a Thief-type character in party-based CRPGs. I consider Thief a cool class, especially when developed into something cool, like Ninja sporting the black garb, katana and deadly fighting technics, or high-levelled Thief in DnD-based games, with all these backstabs and such. Here I have to make a quasi-Thief out of my Archer. Yeah, it can be kinda Robin Hood-like figure, a noble rogue scouting the wilderness and such but it's not the same.

And nevertheless I'm still in, strangely.

 

[Storyfag]

Yes, there is turn-based mode. Where I can't move at all.

LTP

 

[BruceVC]

Hey guys. Just wanted to comment - what a pretty series throughout its entire existence. It's just gorgeous to look at, starting with 1 and seeing the changes along the way. Each game's art style holds its own and shines. Very cool series overall, I have to play more of it! Cheers.

Dude I like 6-8 a lot, but those games look like utter fucking ass.

I assume he is commenting on them considering the era they were released and they were beautiful for their time

The first PC game I ever played was in 1991 or so and it was KQ1 on an EGA 16 colour video card....I thought it was most amazing and enthralling PC experience I had ever seen ..and I thought EGA was beautiful

 

[Efe]

you can move at the end/start of a round in turn based

 

[jackofshadows]

No, in MM6 vanilla you cannot. They added the ability to walk between rounds in MM7. You can still abuse the shit out of mode-switching anyway, though.

 

[Efe]

ur right
Guess I got spoiled by mergemod

 

[Gaznak]

You can still abuse the shit out of mode-switching anyway, though.

It's exactly what I expect to have to do when I start playing a CRPG with combat mode switching: switch the f***ing button to death. After all, maybe MM7 is the thing I should try instead?

 

[jackofshadows]

You can still abuse the shit out of mode-switching anyway, though.

It's exactly what I expect to have to do when I start playing a CRPG with combat mode switching: switch the f***ing button to death. After all, maybe MM7 is the thing I should try instead?

Maybe. What's best is an eternal debate but at least you will be able to play mostly in TB mode if you want (remember that walking backwards is still slower than forward so you would want to make a u-turn every time you kite which could be tiresome). I personally prefer MM7 as a whole and mostly play in RT there.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

There is still a way to play it through as far as I could tell (I played a bit with the DLC equipment).

Check https://www.reddit.com/r/MightAndMa...t_and_magic_x_legacy_manual_code_fix_to_gain/ this thread out.

Anyone here try this. Lordy I wish those files were stored somewhere else. Samn sketchy site kicked me 10 times.

derp... this one took me to the files rather than the link host ones
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=!ABNDt_4LRorQYME&id=F1DA03435DD2879F!107&cid=F1DA03435DD2879F

Now can i figure it out even with instructions? Can i move this game from one computer to another? Dunno. I usually fuck this shit up.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

Dude I like 6-8 a lot, but those games look like utter fucking ass.

I assume he is commenting on them considering the era they were released and they were beautiful for their time

They looked like ass even then, especially 8 by the time it was released. They're great games, no doubt about that but while being more graphically primitive 3-5 looked, and still look better.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I got a kick out of watching the planet explode.

If I was a trillionaire I'd buy the old ips and hire those that truly loved the ips. Best equipment and shit available for the geeks to program to their hearts content. I thought maybe give the IP back to the original creators but they might fuck it off to the trash again. I would consult and hire them to the teams. But that high fantasy is more fantastic than being high on mushrooms.

 

[Gaznak]

LTP

Oh, well, of course. I'm a lamer, no question. But the need to use primarily your brains and not your fingers and reflexes while playing CRPGs seems more... I don't know... expected and logical for me. I just look at the gameplay of MM6-8 versus, say, MM1-2, and I feel a keen temptation to call it degradation in almost every area safe graphics.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I love 1 more than 2. I still have my maps around somewhere. Loved those early games as they even gave you mapping sheets to copy. Wiz 1 had the grids and MM had those connect the dots.