The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition - Obsidian's first-person sci-fi RPG set in a corporate space colony

[Silverfish]

that doesn't mean it's a good game in any way.

That's what you want, but TOW wasn't made for you.

 

[Alienman]

Tim Cain said often enough that the main pitch for TOW was "Fallout meets Firefly"!

Damn, talking about missing that goal.

 

[Lhynn]

Jesus jumping Christ, this game is an ugly, mechanically drab pice of currentyear shit written by SoCal dangerhairs, how can ya'll take it seriously enough to talk about what's a problem or not? Are we on Codex or Reddit?

It's like seriously discussing the merits and flaws of Marvels or nuGhostbusters or a new gender studies textbook. Fuck this gay Earth, seriously.

Full analsys, very well done, fairly interesting to watch, far more interesting than the game itself. Very informative about what NOT to do in storytelling.

 

[cvv]

^ Yep, seen those. Mainly focusing on the gameplay and the individual worlds.

This one is absolutely spot on about the cringe writing tho, which for me is the biggest problem with the game.

 

[Naraya]

You know, it might also be that Parvati is one of only a few females in the game without that haircut.

JFC, is that a zoo or insane asylum?

 

[9ted6]

^ Yep, seen those. Mainly focusing on the gameplay and the individual worlds.

This one is absolutely spot on about the cringe writing tho, which for me is the biggest problem with the game.

I forgot how ugly this game is. They clearly wanted it to look like Borderlands then gave up after making the environments and tried to make the NPCs look realistic but instead they look uncanny and repulsive.

It's annoying how TOW's writers and Fallout's and their fans think that showing off corrupt corporations is an epic dunk on capitalism when capitalism and corporate economics aren't always mutually inclusive. In a way powerful corporations dictating labor from the top down is a different system and is in some senses itself anticapitalistic.

Instead of a nuanced view though they look at a boss being mean or Vault Tec being shady and use that as proof why capitalism never works and is completely evil. The fans miss the point and the writers miss it even more.

 

[Roguey]

They clearly wanted it to look like Borderlands then gave up after making the environments and tried to make the NPCs look realistic but instead they look uncanny and repulsive.

It's just the evolution of Boyarsky's style. Some unsung female artist tried to explain how wrong and un-Fallout it was, but he refused to listen.

It's annoying how TOW's writers and Fallout's and their fans think that showing off corrupt corporations is an epic dunk on capitalism when capitalism and corporate economics aren't always mutually inclusive.

Boyarsky is not anti-capitalism. He's anti-corporation and who wouldn't be? Even corporations are anti-corporation.

 

[Fedora Master]

Stop defending this shit you spastic

 

[9ted6]

Boyarsky is not anti-capitalism. He's anti-corporation and who wouldn't be? Even corporations are anti-corporation.

To reddit Fallout's known as the definitive anti-capitalist game. They're wrong but that's its reputation and at this point it's what the writers say too.

Alot of TOW's fanfare came from the same people who praised it for, in their eyes, going back to Fallout's roots, that aren't actually, and pushing a capitalism bad message.

 

[Silverfish]

pushing a capitalism bad message.

And even that would have been fine (put aside Epic / Microsoft / Walmart for a second), but you can't even get into TOW on that front since it's also desperately trying to be funny. A critique of capitalism, or more accurately corporate overreach as Roguey pointed out, albeit from a aging gen x'er and rainbow-haired dyke millennial perspective, that took their perceived issues at least somewhat seriously would have gone down far smoother. There's a place for Das Kapital and a place for Dan Harmon sitcoms, but never together.

 

[Atlantico]

No, the nu-trilogy is full of bad, nonsensical writing.

So is the Outer Worlds.

The writing choices they made with Parvati's character seem sensible enough to me.

And yet they don't make any sense even though it seems that way to you, the choices are objectively stupid. This isn't a matter of taste.

As Tim Cain says in his videos, something that doesn't appeal to you doesn't make it "bad" it means it's not for you.

That's exactly what R*ddit and other shitlibs told people who didn't like the NuStarWars. Verbatim.

They're not my friends, and you're wrong. She's the character people talked about the most. Here you are bringing her up years later.

I'm playing the game now Kind of makes sense to talk about this now from my perspective.

This is an "I am on the spectrum and need everything spelled out for me in no uncertain terms immediately" complaint. Most people don't write things that way.

No, "They're not my friends, and you're wrong." is an "I am on the spectrum and need everything spelled out for me in no uncertain terms immediately" comment. I have no idea who your friends are, it was a rhetorical comment — you know made by people who aren't

Your interpretation is just bizarre. Not normal. Sorry bro. I don't know why you want to die on this hill.

"Well and "bad" are very subjective in this case, because the date night quest is extremely popular with a lot of the people who liked The Outer Worlds. To paraphrase Dr. Frank-N-Furter, they didn't make it for you.

Deservedly rated retarded for this comment since that's exactly what nu-trilogy sycophants screeched for years. "They didn't make it for you".

You realize the nu-trilogy is full of bad, nonsensical writing. This is the same. I don't know who they made it for, nor do I care. I don't have to be the target audience to appreciate good writing and reject bad writing.

 

[Lhynn]

a lot of the people who liked The Outer Worlds.

Cretins, every last one of them.

The writing is pure nonsense.

 

[Latelistener]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/578650/The_Outer_Worlds/ 84% positive

I'd wish that rating meant something, but almost any functional AAA game gets 80+. Steam rating system is getting close to Metacritic, where even trash games are getting 6-8 out of 10. Games below 85% rarely worth the time, unless they're too niche for normies, and Outer Worlds isn't a niche game.

 

[Roguey]

And yet they don't make any sense even though it seems that way to you, the choices are objectively stupid. This isn't a matter of taste.

You're not even trying to make your argument. You're just making statements backed up by nothing. "It's bad because I say it is and I'm being objective." No, you're not.

I'd wish that rating meant something, but almost any functional AAA game gets 80+. Steam rating system is getting close to Metacritic, where even trash games are getting 6-8 out of 10.

Metacritic is an average of scores, Steam is a simple up/down vote. No surprise that slop that's meant to be popular is popular with the masses.

 

[Atlantico]

You're not even trying to make your argument. You're just making statements backed up by nothing. "It's bad because I say it is and I'm being objective." No, you're not.

lmao Why would I try to make my argument again, I already did and in "response" you made some personal attacks about autism and didn't address my argument at all. It's right there if you want to address it and if not then fine, but don't complain I didn't make an argument. That's very dishonest.

 

[Gargaune]

You're not even trying to make your argument. You're just making statements backed up by nothing. "It's bad because I say it is and I'm being objective."

New to the Codex?

P.S.

The Otter Worlds is bad.

P.P.S.

Because I say it is.

P.P.P.S.

I'm being SUPER objective.

 

[Quillon]

Roguey's argument is based on TOW being a well liked mainstream game like NV, Skyrim, Mass Effect etc and saying "yo its not made for you" to the prestigious codex. To re-state the obv: TOW is mediocre/shit(even for mainstream) and people elevated it to the level of such games for a limited time only because they hated Bethesda/F76 at the time.

Just taking a peek at concurrent player data for such games & TOW says it all.

 

[Butter]

Roguey's argument is based on TOW being a well liked mainstream game like NV, Skyrim, Mass Effect etc and saying "yo its not made for you" to the prestigious codex. To re-state the obv: TOW is mediocre/shit(even for mainstream) and people elevated it to the level of such games for a limited time only because they hated Bethesda/F76 at the time.

Just taking a peak at concurrent player data for such games & TOW says it all.

You can also look at Steam achievement data to get an idea of its attrition rate. A quarter of players give up on the game before even finishing Edgewater.

 

[KVVRR]

"Players" includes a lot of people. Lefties, libs, queers. Not everyone is You.

Overwhelming majority is ME

https://store.steampowered.com/app/578650/The_Outer_Worlds/ 84% positive

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1151340/Fallout_76/ 75% positive

 

[Roguey]

Roguey's argument is based on TOW being a well liked mainstream game like NV, Skyrim, Mass Effect etc and saying "yo its not made for you" to the prestigious codex. To re-state the obv: TOW is mediocre/shit(even for mainstream) and people elevated it to the level of such games for a limited time only because they hated Bethesda/F76 at the time.

Just taking a peek at concurrent player data for such games & TOW says it all.

By February 2020, the game had sold over two million units. By May 2021, the game had sold over three million units. By August 2021, the game had sold over four million units.

It's now at five. I'm sure a lot of publishers wish their terrible games could have such a great long tail.

 

[Sordid MCA/Prosper Hybryd]

I'm being SUPER objective.

Joined: Mar 12, 2020

Claim dismissed!

 

[Quillon]

It's now at five. I'm sure a lot of publishers wish their terrible games could have such a great long tail.

They got lucky with the reason stated, everyone and their grandmother jumped on the bandwagon; game had a good rep from the get go and no one have a good reason/cares enough to even shit on it, result is people still buying and not playing evidently. 5 mil sold and under 450 concurrent players on steam, even outer wilds, that game people confused with this gaym has 5x+ of that lmao

 

[Roguey]

It's now at five. I'm sure a lot of publishers wish their terrible games could have such a great long tail.

They got lucky with the reason stated, everyone and their grandmother jumped on the bandwagon; game had a good rep from the get go and no one have a good reason/cares enough to even shit on it, result is people still buying and not playing evidently. 5 mil sold and under 450 concurrent players on steam, even outer wilds, that game people confused with this gaym has 5x+ of that lmao

Seems likely it's more popular on console than PC.

 

[Quillon]

Why? Seems likelier its the same lol

 

[luj1]

You can just blind rate every Roguey post with shit and never be wrong