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The Witcher 2 Enhanced Edition

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And am I the only one who preferred TW1's acting over TW2's?


Well I don't know about the Polish voice acting, but the English Geralt was much better in TW1 than TW2. The way he said "riiiiight" was especially funny. As for the other characters I didn't notice much of a difference on the whole, however TW1 did have a few exceptionally bad VA's (the old lady comes to mind...)
 

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Well I don't know about the Polish voice acting, but the English Geralt was much better in TW1 than TW2. The way he said "riiiiight" was especially funny. As for the other characters I didn't notice much of a difference on the whole, however TW1 did have a few exceptionally bad VA's (the old lady comes to mind...)

In TW2 I hated the dwarfs a lot. The villagers and the soldiers were bad as well. In TW1 villagers and soldiers sounded much better and weren't annoying. It is a strange phenomenon, I always hated the way non-main characters are voiced in games. It is just too overplayed. The AAA voice actors are plain bad when it comes to voicing side-characters.
 

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Finished the game with Iorweth/Triss path (will check Iorweth/Iorweth path later and the other two also). Loc doesn't change much. The added content was nice, but not groundbreaking except for one thing:
Apparently Geralt was in the Wild Hunt as one of the horsemen. That's... strange. I thought they wanted him for his Elder Gene not because he was a badass killer. I wonder how it will turn out in TW3.
The new ending slides/movie shows thing I think will happen. The kings of north will have to unite and stand their ground. Apparently in Ellander, a vassal to Temeria which wasn't consumed in fire as the video showed or that was a sign that Ellander will bow to the Emperor. Ellander is also a kingdom near the Mahakan mountains and there's also the Temple of Melitele. It would be also a tip of the hat to the novels, because Ellander (from what I remember) was in the short stories and more important Ciri stories later. I started to babble, I was talking about "a thing" that will happen. I think they will link everything in a great battle, maybe even in the Mahakan mountains. North armies versus the south and in the middle of the battle the Wild Hunt will come with their Elder Gene that they copied from Geralt, making a Geralt-clone! Who will win?!
 

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Well I don't know about the Polish voice acting, but the English Geralt was much better in TW1 than TW2. The way he said "riiiiight" was especially funny. As for the other characters I didn't notice much of a difference on the whole, however TW1 did have a few exceptionally bad VA's (the old lady comes to mind...)
I kind of liked Geralt's "I'm getting too old for this shit" attitude in The Witcher 2. Maybe the acting didn't quite pull it off, but I thought the way he sounded kind of apathetic a lot of the time was sort of fitting with his mindset of "I just want to go home and fuck Triss" throughout most of the game. That said, he did have more charisma the first time around.

Overall I think the voice acting in the second game was much stronger, though. Foltest alone counts for quite a lot, and many of the supporting characters are very good. The quality is also a lot more consistent... the first game had its moments but there were a lot of really awkward lines that were read in the wrong tone or with the wrong emphasis that made some conversations really difficult to understand unless you were paying more attention to the text itself. The Witcher 2 does have its weaker moments from time to time but I'd say on the whole the quality of the acting is leagues better than anything in the first game. Even if you compare the best from each I still think the sequel comes out on top.
 

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I think voice acting in the W2 was one of the most consistent aspects of the game (besides Triss) . Really. The sheer number of good characters and actors is astounding.
 

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Another note - I'll take characters from The Witcher 2 over BioWare's sterile drones any day. it's amazing how much more natural the acting and writing come across. Replaying The Witcher 2, I completely forgot about how things like exposition are woven into the dialogue rather than having tons of it devoted just to exposition. If three people are talking, and everyone knows each other, we don't need to have them all awkwardly introduce each other by name, we'll figure it out as the conversation goes! There are characters who actually have wit and cynicism or are naive or are stupid or have actual personality traits that we can figure out without it being rammed down our throats!

Honestly, trying to play a BioWare game after this is just painful. It's like the dialogue was written by goddamn aliens or something, and read by the most bored actors on the the planet. You can just tell nobody is in the same room as each other or has even listened to the rest of the dialogue before doing their own takes.
 

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Honestly, trying to play a BioWare game after this is just painful. It's like the dialogue was written by goddamn aliens or something, and read by the most bored actors on the the planet. You can just tell nobody is in the same room as each other or has even listened to the rest of the dialogue before doing their own takes.

I really noticed that in the first hour of ME3, I couldn't pick it up again after the hospital due to how forced and bored the characters sounded. I'm sure ME1/2 weren't that bad, were they?
 

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I'm trying to play Ioverth's path this time...but fuck, can anyone give me a good reason to join him instead of Roche? Ioverth is such a big douche that wanted to kill Geralt all the time, Roche is a loyal badass who bailed Geralt out and helped him all the time, I just can't find a good reason that Geralt would choose to join Ioverth instead of BRoche.
 

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I'm trying to play Ioverth's path this time...but fuck, can anyone give me a good reason to join him instead of Roche? Ioverth is such a big douche that wanted to kill Geralt all the time, Roche is a loyal badass who bailed Geralt out and helped him all the time, I just can't find a good reason that Geralt would choose to join Ioverth instead of BRoche.
Lesbomancy.
 

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Another note - I'll take characters from The Witcher 2 over BioWare's sterile drones any day. it's amazing how much more natural the acting and writing come across. Replaying The Witcher 2, I completely forgot about how things like exposition are woven into the dialogue rather than having tons of it devoted just to exposition. If three people are talking, and everyone knows each other, we don't need to have them all awkwardly introduce each other by name, we'll figure it out as the conversation goes! There are characters who actually have wit and cynicism or are naive or are stupid or have actual personality traits that we can figure out without it being rammed down our throats!

Honestly, trying to play a BioWare game after this is just painful. It's like the dialogue was written by goddamn aliens or something, and read by the most bored actors on the the planet. You can just tell nobody is in the same room as each other or has even listened to the rest of the dialogue before doing their own takes.

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I'm trying to play Ioverth's path this time...but fuck, can anyone give me a good reason to join him instead of Roche? Ioverth is such a big douche that wanted to kill Geralt all the time, Roche is a loyal badass who bailed Geralt out and helped him all the time, I just can't find a good reason that Geralt would choose to join Ioverth instead of BRoche.
Lesbomancy.

Do what I did: Join the Elf Supremacist for second chapter and then leave it.... 3rd Chapter with Iorveth is constant whackamole.... got bored and quit after half hour.... but Vergen is better and feels larger than Kadwian Camp.... and has more of Dvarfen friends of Geralt.
 

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I'm trying to play Ioverth's path this time...but fuck, can anyone give me a good reason to join him instead of Roche? Ioverth is such a big douche that wanted to kill Geralt all the time, Roche is a loyal badass who bailed Geralt out and helped him all the time, I just can't find a good reason that Geralt would choose to join Ioverth instead of BRoche.

Depends how you look at it. Roche is a rasist and a specialist in hunting elves and dwarfs. You don't work for him. The most important thing is about the Kingslayer. You know that he went to Vergen and the elves are going to Vergen. Also Iorweth was cheated by Letho, used by a witcher like Geralt. There're lots of layers. Going with Iorweth isn't a unlogical choice.
 

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I'm trying to play Ioverth's path this time...but fuck, can anyone give me a good reason to join him instead of Roche? Ioverth is such a big douche that wanted to kill Geralt all the time, Roche is a loyal badass who bailed Geralt out and helped him all the time, I just can't find a good reason that Geralt would choose to join Ioverth instead of BRoche.
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To answer your question Heresiarch,BRoche is a better character than Iorveth but Iorveth's second chapter is probably better than Broche's
 

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I'm trying to play Ioverth's path this time...but fuck, can anyone give me a good reason to join him instead of Roche? Ioverth is such a big douche that wanted to kill Geralt all the time, Roche is a loyal badass who bailed Geralt out and helped him all the time, I just can't find a good reason that Geralt would choose to join Ioverth instead of BRoche.

Depends how you look at it. Roche is a rasist and a specialist in hunting elves and dwarfs. You don't work for him. The most important thing is about the Kingslayer. You know that he went to Vergen and the elves are going to Vergen. Also Iorweth was cheated by Letho, used by a witcher like Geralt. There're lots of layers. Going with Iorweth isn't a unlogical choice.

I think the whole deal about the internal conflict the player is supposed to undergo when picking sides comes down to the fact that, Iorveth goes to Upper Aedeirn, where Triss and Letho teleported, and BROche has none of that and wants to go to lower Aedeirn, where Henselt has set his camp. Thus player may want to reluctantly join Iorveth in pursuit of Triss and Letho, or follow Roche's political agenda.

However, that kind of fell flat on the face, as Geralt apparently doesn't give a fuck what happens - he doesn't express it in any way in the narrative. Secondly, it's so nice for the story to jump ahead of itself and tell you, you won't be able to comb through Aedeirn because some magical mist may prevent your search of Triss in the upper part.

It's one of the two lower points of TW2's story, to my mind.
 

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Its not actually. You are given a chance to save Iorveth AFTER you capture him to do just what you are suggesting.
 

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Its not actually. You are given a chance to save Iorveth AFTER you capture him to do just what you are suggesting.

I don't quite get what this sentence was supposed to convey, or who it was directed to, for that matter... Care to elaborate?
 

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Sorry .wrote it in haste. I meant to say that it was NOT a lower point of the story. You actually DO get a chance to consider joining Iorveth before going to Aedeirn. For the same reasons as you were elaborating.
 

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Sorry .wrote it in haste. I meant to say that it was NOT a lower point of the story. You actually DO get a chance to consider joining Iorveth before going to Aedeirn. For the same reasons as you were elaborating.

I am not saying you don't get that. I am saying, it's pretty poorly conveyed - again, Geralt doesn't seem to give a fuck his woman has been kidnapped much, it's not explained how joining Roche will prevent you from looking for her, and when teaming up with Iorveth you don't get the impression it's an uneasy alliance (other than - 'I hope I chose right'), even though you aid a man that landed you in the whole assassination mess in the first place.
 

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Hmm. It may be that its still a residue from the last game where Geralt is NOT supposed to care (as in actually LOVE, like with Yennefer before the amnesia) so much for Triss. Actually until the very end of the game where you make a choice to save Triss or not it is not established concretely. But that's just me.
 

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Hmm. It may be that its still a residue from the last game where Geralt is NOT supposed to care (as in actually LOVE, like with Yennefer before the amnesia) so much for Triss.

Even though Triss is the only one he remembers? And here you touched upon the second bad thing about the narrative - the amnesia plot device - and how it was handled.

Actually until the very end of the game where you make a choice to save Triss or not it is not established concretely. But that's just me.

If TW1 as well as prologue in TW2 as well as all the books didn't happen, I might think the way you are.
 

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For once I would say fuck C&C gimmicks, meaning that the entire separation between Iorveth's and Roche's paths is stupid. How the fuck do you cut out an entire location from the game based on only one choice!? This shit might be the definitive proof there is C&C in the game, but is also a subtle way to "force" a replay of the game. And I don't want to do that, I'm not a lab rat and I definitely don't want to replay something when my motivation to do so is lacking. I choose Roche and that's it. Fuck Iorveth and the exceptional location, my TW2 story is over and definitive. On top of that, the combat is so tactically engaging that it makes replaying seems attractive as diarrhea. But I cannot shake the feeling that I've missed a part of the world and it is wrong ... all locations should be available to the player. I want to play a free Witcher. /rant
 

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Boohoohoo! I don't want to make tough decisions! I like having 100% completion!

Fuck. You. This is exactly one of the many things wrong with todays RPG's. Cutting the players path to content by his own choice. Go to Bioware. They don't do that.
 

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Boohoohoo! I don't want to make tough decisions! I like having 100% completion!

Fuck. You. This is exactly one of the many things wrong with todays RPG's. Cutting the players path to content by his own choice. Go to Bioware. They don't do that.

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For once I would say fuck C&C gimmicks, meaning that the entire separation between Iorveth's and Roche's paths is stupid. How the fuck do you cut out an entire location from the game based on only one choice!? This shit might be the definitive proof there is C&C in the game, but is also a subtle way to "force" a replay of the game. And I don't want to do that, I'm not a lab rat and I definitely don't want to replay something when my motivation to do so is lacking. I choose Roche and that's it. Fuck Iorveth and the exceptional location, my TW2 story is over and definitive. On top of that, the combat is so tactically engaging that it makes replaying seems attractive as diarrhea. But I cannot shake the feeling that I've missed a part of the world and it is wrong ... all locations should be available to the player. I want to play a free Witcher. /rant
Bro, feel pain no more. There is Dragon Age 2 and believe me, this game is exactly what you need. It is totally MAJESTIC.
 

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