The Witcher The Witcher IV - The Ciri Saga Begins

[Thalstarion]

Some comedy gold:

You can tell some intern working for the company's social media page is jerking off to all the 'strong angry Ciri' art that they find, then reposting it using the official account so the paid shills, content creators, bots and true believers can rush to do damage control. Thankfully there's a fair few comments ridiculing the obvious attempt to push Ciri towards the obnoxious phenotype of women scowling and yelling to show how supposedly 'intimidating' and 'just as capable as men' they are.

 

[Green]

So the stories are starting to deal with Yennefer and it's already gay and Geralt looks like a simp.

I don't remember when exactly Yennefer appears for the first time, as far as I remember Geralt acted like that in Bounds of Reason story while reunited. In defence of our homeboy - he escaped from her residence in Oxenfurt without telling cause he couldn't stand the bitch anymore, so that makes him less gay. I have to admit I very much liked how Geralt and Yennefer love-hate relationship was described, so I'm curious if you'll change your mind after Last Wish.

He says he ran away because she (Yennefer) was too controlling and Nenneke calls him a manchild.

She also calls out on "men" and their egos when Geralt asks her if Yennefer mentioned him last time she was at the Melitele temple.

In fact this priestess is getting on my nerves a bit she is incessantly snarky and antagonistic.

BTW i now want a game where you get to play Torque, stealing shit from villages and bieng a nausance for the sake of bieng a dick. That would be totally based and goat pilled.

She's right about Geralt, you'll see. Hell, dare say that by the end the only likeable one is Yennefer, cause both Geralt and Ciri just get worse book by book after Blood of Elves. Though i doubt most people who've started the series managed to get to the end, so good luck about that and don't hurry to finish the second one. The short stories are where it's at, moment it shifts to novel and it all becomes about Ciri is the moment it gets boring fast.

 

[MasPingon]

So the stories are starting to deal with Yennefer and it's already gay and Geralt looks like a simp.

I don't remember when exactly Yennefer appears for the first time, as far as I remember Geralt acted like that in Bounds of Reason story while reunited. In defence of our homeboy - he escaped from her residence in Oxenfurt without telling cause he couldn't stand the bitch anymore, so that makes him less gay. I have to admit I very much liked how Geralt and Yennefer love-hate relationship was described, so I'm curious if you'll change your mind after Last Wish.

He says he ran away because she (Yennefer) was too controlling and Nenneke calls him a manchild.

She also calls out on "men" and their egos when Geralt asks her if Yennefer mentioned him last time she was at the Melitele temple.

In fact this priestess is getting on my nerves a bit she is incessantly snarky and antagonistic.

BTW i now want a game where you get to play Torque, stealing shit from villages and bieng a nausance for the sake of bieng a dick. That would be totally based and goat pilled.

She's right about Geralt, you'll see. Hell, dare say that by the end the only likeable one is Yennefer, cause both Geralt and Ciri just get worse book by book after Blood of Elves. Though i doubt most people who've started the series managed to get to the end, so good luck about that and don't hurry to finish the second one. The short stories are where it's at, moment it shifts to novel and it all becomes about Ciri is the moment it gets boring fast.

Mostly agree, besides that she wasn't right about Geralt. And Saga was fine until Time of Contempt. Tower of Swallow is where it went downhill.

 

[Green]

Mostly agree, besides that she wasn't right about Geralt.

He's a huge bitch in the books.

Spoiler

Especially in the last one, it's just bizarre how he and Ciri go through a reverse character arc. Bro was told his wife betrayed him and their kid, believed it so he could proceed to fork her lookalike for months on end, then got told she'd actually spent all that time getting tortured by the series' final boss, so forked the lookalike once more and finally got back on track. Which, let's say pass this, but after bro was ready to go out with Yen during the Emhyr thing, he's still boldface lying when she asks if he was sleeping with someone while she was getting all her fingers broken. Like, if this was the guy in Corvo Bianco, he'd be gone after a couple weeks because she's being controlling in the way she asks him how he wants his dinner. Learned 0. But then i'm asked to believe getting transported into an island in the middle of nowhere with Yennefer is somehow his good ending.

Same for Ciri, really. After the Rats, she goes through two books of getting strang along by people using her up just to spit her back out same way the Rats had done, but then her fast act once reunited with her parents is to go on a revenge quest against the people who'd sold out a band of Robin Hoods but rapists and murderers because she's still in full stockholm over the raping they did to her and the murdering she did to others. But then her happy ending is going through the multiverse with a literal arthurian knight she's feeling all hot for, because he's so cute and chivalrous. Wut.

Like, forget the Hansa since they all just fucking die and that's their ending so the guy didn't have to come up with anything more complex, even Emhyr's ending is just weird. He realizes wanting to impregnate his daughter for her super genes is weird, so he proceeds to give up on that and instead marry her lookalike- that we know nothing about, other than he names her Cirilla, looks like Cirilla, and he falls in love with her. Like. (And yeah, i know there's a reason given as to why he does that, but since it's both a paperthin excuse and odd in the narrative sense, i consider it stupid)

But yeah, rant off. He's a bitch and every character but Yennefer is weird. Which reminds me of Cahir, who might've been a nice character if Ciri hadn't been like 10, crying, and running from her burning home when he decided he loved her and that he'd turn his life around for her. Jesus Christ.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

The Witcher 2 and 3 were sequentially toned down, and still more edgy than the West .

For me at least, this toning down is connected to the player base's own maturation in these years between the games.

I don't think that's true. First, a brand's audience is never monolithic. Secondly, if you mean the cards, I found them to be a fun gimmick inside an essentially serious game, where the second one was much more juvenile.

At this point I am almost expecting Geralt to be granted the Joel treatment... killed off in some unceremonious way so that Ciri would try to avenge him. Literally taking his place as "the Witcher" even though they are depicted as outcasts and obsolete ever since the first game. The story devs took the safest path, albeit the most unimaginative one.

If there is one universal thread throughout the story of The Witcher, it is the inevitability of the end. Witchers were an invention for a different time, when there were more monsters and the world was more magical (in the sense of perspective, not literal magic). But the world has changed and it is because of witchers. They create a world in which there is no place for them. They have no future because they are infertile and the laboratories have been destroyed. Geralt is a man without a place on earth, a homeland, or his own time, who has only loose connections with other people, and is still afraid of the depth of relationships.

Ciri's mutation is an idea straight from fan fiction. The cool factor and unhealthy attachment to a fictional character are responsible for all the content.

Mostly agree, besides that she wasn't right about Geralt.

He's a huge bitch in the books.

Spoiler

Especially in the last one, it's just bizarre how he and Ciri go through a reverse character arc. Bro was told his wife betrayed him and their kid, believed it so he could proceed to fork her lookalike for months on end, then got told she'd actually spent all that time getting tortured by the series' final boss, so forked the lookalike once more and finally got back on track. Which, let's say pass this, but after bro was ready to go out with Yen during the Emhyr thing, he's still boldface lying when she asks if he was sleeping with someone while she was getting all her fingers broken. Like, if this was the guy in Corvo Bianco, he'd be gone after a couple weeks because she's being controlling in the way she asks him how he wants his dinner. Learned 0. But then i'm asked to believe getting transported into an island in the middle of nowhere with Yennefer is somehow his good ending.

Same for Ciri, really. After the Rats, she goes through two books of getting strang along by people using her up just to spit her back out same way the Rats had done, but then her fast act once reunited with her parents is to go on a revenge quest against the people who'd sold out a band of Robin Hoods but rapists and murderers because she's still in full stockholm over the raping they did to her and the murdering she did to others. But then her happy ending is going through the multiverse with a literal arthurian knight she's feeling all hot for, because he's so cute and chivalrous. Wut.

Like, forget the Hansa since they all just fucking die and that's their ending so the guy didn't have to come up with anything more complex, even Emhyr's ending is just weird. He realizes wanting to impregnate his daughter for her super genes is weird, so he proceeds to give up on that and instead marry her lookalike- that we know nothing about, other than he names her Cirilla, looks like Cirilla, and he falls in love with her. Like. (And yeah, i know there's a reason given as to why he does that, but since it's both a paperthin excuse and odd in the narrative sense, i consider it stupid)

But yeah, rant off. He's a bitch and every character but Yennefer is weird. Which reminds me of Cahir, who might've been a nice character if Ciri hadn't been like 10, crying, and running from her burning home when he decided he loved her and that he'd turn his life around for her. Jesus Christ.

In my opinion, there is a big difference between Geralt from the stories and Gerlat from the saga. In the former, fairy tale retellings are a great background to show his personality and show his social exclusion. Motif about adoptive daughter, the only continuation such a person can have, may seem like a great idea, but it quickly reveals all the weaknesses of the entire concept, especially from the moment when Geralt stops being the main character. Ciri is just one of the manifestations of a general loss of direction and the inability to find meaning in a world where the only meaning was Geralt himself.

 

[Gahbreeil]

The Witcher!

Where wizards cuck ambiguous heroes. Where lesbians occur naturally only in teen rape. Where pedophilia happens in taverns in bustling cities.

The Witcher.

 

[Tyranicon]

Is that an actual excerpt from one of the books?

Man, when people say the translation isn't great, they weren't kidding.

 

[Tyrr]

Wizards never stop winning

To rub it in, here is Istredd in the Netflix version:

 

[Lyric Suite]

That passage is a travesty. Italian translation is way better, despite some sporadically confusing turns of phase (could also just be errors in the epub i downloaded). Based boomer academic:

Apparently she has translated books from four different languages, Russian, Czech, Polish and English. She has translated a ton of juvenile literature too which might explain the funny tone but she isn't simplifying the language like that English translation so i'll take it.

One thing though. So far i haven't found any modern sounding swearing. Were those in the Polish? Because they were in the English when i skimmed through it.

Like in the first story when the peasants are taunting Geralt one of them says his ears must be full of shit while the Italian uses manure, which isn't as strong a word. Wonder if she sanitizing the language a bit, though for me it would be an improvement since i find swearing in fantasy to be kind of cringe.

 

[moon knight]

That passage is a travesty. Italian translation is way better, despite some sporadically confusing turns of phase (could also just be errors in the epub i downloaded). Based boomer academic:

Apparently she has translated books from four different languages, Russian, Czech, Polish and English. She has translated a ton of juvenile literature too which might explain the funny tone but she isn't simplifying the language like that English translation so i'll take it.

One thing though. So far i haven't found any modern sounding swearing. Were those in the Polish? Because they were in the English when i skimmed through it.

Like in the first story when the peasants are taunting Geralt one of them says his ears must be full of shit while the Italian uses manure, which isn't as strong a word. Wonder if she sanitizing the language a bit, though for me it would be an improvement since i find swearing in fantasy to be kind of cringe.

But she also changed "unicorn" to "rhyno" in the that same story.

Other than this, yeah, the same passage, in hthe italian version flows much better

 

[Storyfag]

One thing though. So far i haven't found any modern sounding swearing. Were those in the Polish?

The Polish version has creative pretend-Old-Polish curse words. "Chędożyć" (plough, roughly) instead of "pierdolić" (fuck), and such.

Like in the first story when the peasants are taunting Geralt one of them says his ears must be full of shit while the Italian uses manure

It is as close to the original as possible. "Łajno", used in the book, is an older word for "gnój" and both mean "manure", as opposed to "gówno" which means "shit". However I would not have used "manure" if translating this section to English. In English the simple "shit" is much more appropriate, though I do not doubt a better word could be found with a bit of effort.

 

[Maxie]

oh no no no witcherbros we were too cocky....

 

[Maxie]

That passage is a travesty. Italian translation is way better, despite some sporadically confusing turns of phase (could also just be errors in the epub i downloaded). Based boomer academic:

Apparently she has translated books from four different languages, Russian, Czech, Polish and English. She has translated a ton of juvenile literature too which might explain the funny tone but she isn't simplifying the language like that English translation so i'll take it.

One thing though. So far i haven't found any modern sounding swearing. Were those in the Polish? Because they were in the English when i skimmed through it.

Like in the first story when the peasants are taunting Geralt one of them says his ears must be full of shit while the Italian uses manure, which isn't as strong a word. Wonder if she sanitizing the language a bit, though for me it would be an improvement since i find swearing in fantasy to be kind of cringe.

Sapkowski's writing isn't the best when two edgelords are snarking at each other, it's the best when he writes dialogues for hillbillies and boors

 

[Bulo]

Wizards never stop winning

To rub it in, here is Istredd in the Netflix version:

He's like a knock-off Prince. Prince would have been a kino casting

 

[Iucounu]

The Witcher 2 and 3 were sequentially toned down, and still more edgy than the West .

For me at least, this toning down is connected to the player base's own maturation in these years between the games.

I don't think that's true. First, a brand's audience is never monolithic. Secondly, if you mean the cards, I found them to be a fun gimmick inside an essentially serious game, where the second one was much more juvenile.

True, removing the cards is not mature, just politically correct. In any case Witcher 3 is certainly not mature either: that game begins with the nude Geralt in a cringy bathtub cutscene (Jennifer is shown way less), then just a couple of levels later comes another bathtub! How is that any more mature than the cards? Clearly already Witcher 3 was made for a female audience.

 

[Sòren]

i jusr read the 7th wicthers book and yennefer got raped by a werewolf and Geralt is like "no yen, you can't have werewolf baby" and she is like "geralt, i was always pro choice but i also wanted to have a little doggy in my house." there is also a pretty touching sidestory how ciri travelled to the 21st century and shipped hundreds of sandniggers to europe to defeat putin or something. yeah, really high literature and worth talking about for pages and pages.

 

[Child of Malkav]

yennefer got raped by a werewolf and Geralt is like "no yen, you can't have werewolf baby" and she is like "geralt, i was always pro choice but i also wanted to have a little doggy in my house." there is also a pretty touching sidestory how ciri travelled to the 21st century and shipped hundreds of sandniggers to europe to defeat putin or something

 

[Elttharion]

Is that an actual excerpt from one of the books?

Man, when people say the translation isn't great, they weren't kidding.

Its pretty bad but I must admit I burst out laughing the first time I reached the 'Then go to hell' line.

 

[Skinwalker]

Stop posting these retarded fanfics.

 

[Maxie]

i jusr read the 7th wicthers book and yennefer got raped by a werewolf and Geralt is like "no yen, you can't have werewolf baby" and she is like "geralt, i was always pro choice but i also wanted to have a little doggy in my house." there is also a pretty touching sidestory how ciri travelled to the 21st century and shipped hundreds of sandniggers to europe to defeat putin or something. yeah, really high literature and worth talking about for pages and pages.

you should've just accepted the vaccine before cumweed took your brain

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Is that an actual excerpt from one of the books?

Man, when people say the translation isn't great, they weren't kidding.

Every time someone posts an excerpt from The Witcher books, it seems that either the translation is poor, the writing is poor, or both.

 

[Harthwain]

True, removing the cards is not mature, just politically correct.

They removed the cards, but added fairly explicit sex scenes in TW2. So it was a point towards mature and against politically correct.

 

[mondblut]

Bro was told his wife betrayed him and their kid, believed it so he could proceed to fork her lookalike for months on end

That's p. based.

 

[Hace El Oso]

True, removing the cards is not mature, just politically correct.

They removed the cards, but added fairly explicit sex scenes in TW2. So it was a point towards mature and against politically correct.

I think something like a sex scene can be handwaived away as being cinematic, artistic, etc.

But choosing to have sex with random women with little or no implications for the main plot and getting a souvenir (almost a picture you took with your Witcher cell phone camera), that’s not something you can explain to outsiders so easily.

On the other hand, the sorceresses in W2 were built from the ground up for sex appeal.

 

[Vincente]

Wizards never stop winning

To rub it in, here is Istredd in the Netflix version:

Here he is in Gwent.