Wizardry The Wizardry Series Thread

[Major_Blackhart]

Also, is there a way to get the Astral Dominae if you kill the Don when you first meet him?

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Mt Gigas caves are annoyingly boring, apart from that I liked all the areas. And yes, Monastery was one of the better ones.

As for the Astral Dominae that is actually an interesting question though I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped it anyway, despite claiming that he doesn't have it.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

On a side note, did anyone think that the Monastery was the best or one of the best dungeons in the game?
I certainly did.

To me it's not only a good but also the only real dungeon of the game. The rest are just "locations" and don't feel like dungeons, including Marten's bluff and Rapax castle. That's one of my main gripes with Wiz8, too damn open.

 

[Tigranes]

The Monastery was good, though nothing amazing; certainly what I expected from a reputable dungeon crawler. I also enjoyed Arnika, but the roads have been pretty boring, so we'll see what Trynton brings tonight.

I mean, with the combat system it has, open areas like the Roads are terrible - you're just going to be backing up to a wall every fight anyway. I did like my big fight with a gazillion plants in the Trynton bridge area.

 

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

So, did you find the retro dungeon?

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

In Marten's Bluff/Mt Gigas you will get an access to teleporting machines and there are also set/return to portal spells. All that will make the travelling much less annoying.

Edit: The one in Mt Gigas isn't all that useful though as it just dumps you on Arnika road pretty far from the town, but the one that spider blob things have is heaven.

 

[DraQ]

I've always thought that Wiz8 had some nice, diverse locations.
Not necessarily roads and wilderness areas (apart from Mountain Wilderness which pretty cool), but still nice. Also, Mt. Gigas Caves' unexplored area was a proper dungeon.

 

[octavius]

Do mages, priests and alchemists get more skill points for their magic skills per level than samurais, valks/lords and ninjas do? It takes forever to raise these skills with only 3-4 points per level, and I could really need higher level spells like Cure Poison and Levitate, to name a few that would have been handy.
So, do I change class to get higher skill levels or do I stick to current classes to get the all important class levels as high as possible?
One downside to changing to basic spell caster classes is that they will no longer be able to use the best weapons.

 

[Tigranes]

So, did you find the retro dungeon?

I hit some runes then couldn't find anything for twenty minutes, so I looked up on the guide on what to do with the dagger, but still couldn't get it to work. Then I saw how 'retro' the retro dungeon is and gave up. Maybe I'll go back to it later, I'm not even level 8 yet anyway.

Good to know you get teleport/portals later, I don't mind it early game.

 

[Fowyr]

Do mages, priests and alchemists get more skill points for their magic skills per level than samurais, valks/lords and ninjas do?

Oh yes! Now you should understand, why class change is so necessary. Some skills like mapping and scouting can be trained only on level ups.

One downside to changing to basic spell caster classes is that they will no longer be able to use the best weapons.

Just change one character in time and revert him to previous class before changing another.

 

[octavius]

Do mages, priests and alchemists get more skill points for their magic skills per level than samurais, valks/lords and ninjas do?

Oh yes! Now you should understand, why class change is so necessary. Some skills like mapping and scouting can be trained only on level ups.

I think the cause of this problem is that you can't distribute skill points freely. You have to allocate "useless" weapons skills (useless since they rise so quickly anyway) and that leaves little for the precious magic skills. In Wiz 6 it was therefore easier to get high magic skills.

 

[Fowyr]

By the way, one of Wiz7 versions (DOS or Gold, can't remember) had annoying bag. You can't leave level-up screen if you do not distribute all points, and if you have all 100 in one subcategory... Go figure. I just changed class to open some useless for this character skills.

 

[kmonster]

The dos version doesn't have this bug (like you can see at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-M9aoRdz8 ).

Ninjas with 23 < INT+PIE < 30 get 2-5 academic skill points per level up.

 

[octavius]

The dos version doesn't have this bug (like you can see at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol-M9aoRdz8 ).

Ninjas with 23 < INT+PIE < 30 get 2-5 academic skill points per level up.

Hmm? The ninja got from 4-7 academic skill points. Lower than for the others, though, which looked abnormally high. Do you get twice the skill points when playing on expert difficulty?

 

[octavius]

Might&Magic is better than Wizardry in at least two respects:
1. Much more fun to explore. So far I have found no interesting places overland map in Wiz 7.
2. More user friendly interface. Information is always a key stroke or two away. In Wiz 6 and 7 it would have been nice to see not only your current spell points, but also max spell points when casting spells in combat. Buying and selling in Wiz 6 and 7 is also a chore, and easier access to a character's inventory would have been nice. It's rather cumbersome having to open to sell menu to see what a character is currently equipped with.
But most rage inducing of all: in Wiz 6 and 7 there is no textual or visual indictation that a character is currently Silenced.

 

[Stabwound]

By the way, one of Wiz7 versions (DOS or Gold, can't remember) had annoying bag. You can't leave level-up screen if you do not distribute all points, and if you have all 100 in one subcategory... Go figure. I just changed class to open some useless for this character skills.

I think you're thinking of Wiz 6, not 7. Wiz 6 definitely has that bug, anyway.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

I actually would have wanted some more retro dungeons actually.
The ones they had were great overall. Loved them.
Required a shit ton of map work and general paying attention to.

 

[DraQ]

They were a nice exercise, great easteregg, and decent source of loot, but they had no feel, no point and looked like shit if judged purely on their own merit.

 

[Shadenuat]

Rapax Castle is quite a dungeon. Remember storming it for the first time and being angry you can't get that catapult from Marten's Bluff and unload rain of fire on those fucking archers, mages, samurai and whatever swarming walls from above.

Actually, well, I always thought whole Wiz8 is just a very big dungeon. With some safe resting places like He'Li tavern and such. Everything else is fighting/puzzles/loot.

You can also make it even more so (whole game as a dungeon) if you make every faction in the game hate you

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Yeah, but that's a little too hardcore. Even for me.

 

[kmonster]

Hmm? The ninja got from 4-7 academic skill points. Lower than for the others, though, which looked abnormally high. Do you get twice the skill points when playing on expert difficulty?

The difficulty setting doesn't change what happens at level up, at expert difficulty you face one extra monster per group which lets you level faster for an easier game. Ninjas with INT+PIE >35 get 3-7 academic skill points.

 

[octavius]

So what's up with that scroll that occasionally appear in the bottom right corner when moving? And sometimes a cloak appears?
Couldn't find any mention of it in the manual.

DUH! Nevermind, turned out it was cursed items I had thrown away.

 

[Fowyr]

I think you're thinking of Wiz 6, not 7. Wiz 6 definitely has that bug, anyway.

kmonster is right, it was Wiz7 Gold. Wiz6 too? I should play it again one day and do not wear the cross now.

 

[DraQ]

Woohoo - Umpani Base Camp after picking Demonsting weapons from the monastery, still no fatalities.

Enlisted and went hunting for books, as usual. My bishop slowly starts to cease sucking - just learned Hypnotic Lures and Blinding Flash. Had funny happening with hogar on the road - my ninja hit it with a bag of instakill powder before it even got hostile.

 

[octavius]

So I got myself a cursed Ring of Invisibility. It gives -4 to AC and some resistances, so it's a nice item.
Does anyone know how the curse manifests itself?