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Paul_cz

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turned it into a poor man's GTA.
It is actually rich man's GTA, meaning that it is much better than GTA in all the ways that matter (to me) - gameplay mechanics, player agency, writing.
It is not a "faithful" adaptation of the table top game, you are right. It is a great game set in its world, however.
Vávra's first post about Cyberpunk was very negative, he hated how the game starts, but by the end it was his GOTY (mine too).
 

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I'm now looking forward to Vavra trying to explain himself even more than to the game itself.
That seems a bit obsessive, and I doubt you will be particularly satisfied by the "explanation", assuming someone asks him about it irl.
It will probably just be "in the first game taking place around Sasau backwater Bohemia it made no sense, but with this game being set in Kuttenberg and dealing with Sigismund, we decided it would provide one more interesting and unexpected perspective and made sense" and that will be about it.
 

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RPGcodex a month ago: KCD2 is the last remaining hope! Jesus Christ be praised!

:desu:

RPGcodex now: The west has fallen, yet again.

:betrayed:

How swiftly the wind turns on us.
 

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It is not a "faithful" adaptation of the table top game, you are right.
That's an understatement. Even CDPR started calling it "an open-world, action-adventure story" instead of "the role-playing game of the dark future" (as it used to be called at release) in May of 2019. They later changed that (in 2022) to "Cyberpunk 2077 is an open-world, action-adventure RPG set in the dark future of Night City", but it clearly shows how confident they were in their own creation being an RPG at all, nevermind it being a good adaptation of the tabletop.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
That seems a bit obsessive, and I doubt you will be particularly satisfied by the "explanation", assuming someone asks him about it irl.
Right on the second point, wrong on the first.

Again, this isn't your classic case of rage farmers grasping at straws for lack of content, there's much more to it. Warhorse stood for years as champions for authenticity against the "fuck history" crowd and they decide to bend the knee when the activist journo machine collapsed, game journalism shrunk to insignificance and nobody really gives a shit anymore? What a sad, ridiculous story.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Seriously now. We don't live in a world with an abundance of AAA creative leads who take stands like these in public:



Support the guy who is on your side and against the other side. If you think you're locked in a struggle to the death against enemies of civilization, it's crazy not to.
 
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Seriously now. We don't live in a world that has an abundance of AAA creative leads who make stands like these in public:



Support the guy who is on your side and against the other side. If you think you're locked in a struggle to the death against enemies of civilization, it's crazy not to.

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Again, this isn't your classic case of rage farmers grasping at straws for lack of content, there's much more to it. Warhorse stood for years as champions for authenticity against the "fuck history" crowd and they decide to bend the knee when the activist journo machine collapsed, game journalism shrunk to insignificance and nobody really gives a shit anymore? What a sad, ridiculous story.
Warhorse is now owned by Koch Media (apparently renamed as Plaion) from Germany. So it isn't that weird to say some corpo decided that bending the knee is a safer course of action. It will still take some more time for developers and publishers to realize the tide is turning and the whole woke/ESG/DEI thing is not worth the money and effort (assuming they won't be deluding themselves it is important for good PR). I also wouldn't discount the corpos' fear of any negative PR in general (this means criticism from activists and game journalism).
 

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Again, this isn't your classic case of rage farmers grasping at straws for lack of content, there's much more to it. Warhorse stood for years as champions for authenticity against the "fuck history" crowd and they decide to bend the knee when the activist journo machine collapsed, game journalism shrunk to insignificance and nobody really gives a shit anymore? What a sad, ridiculous story.
I get it, I am just saying that if you expect some kind of self-flaggelation or making excuses, explanations or apologies, you are likely to be disappointed. Wherever the decision came from or whatever the motivation, it is what it is.
Unless of course Warhorse literally unearthed some document that made the the guy's presence in the area plausible and not including him would be ahistorical. But how likely is that? I do not think very.

But to be honest, given how no-fucks-given troll Vávra is online (see above) I would not be surprised if the decision to include the guy came from him simply because he wanted to do it, to troll people
 

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We have enough niggers in real life, why vavra have to torment us? He betrayed us.
We do? I barely see any black people in Poland. Last time I spoke to one was most likely when I studied abroad, like 18 years ago.
Nigga I went to fucking Pančevo by train on 2 separate days and I saw not 1, but TWO niggresses... IN FUCKING PANČEVO!
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
But to be honest, given how no-fucks-given troll Vávra is online (see above) I would not be surprised if the decision to include the guy came from him simply because he wanted to do it, to troll people
I know, I follow him. But I don't know.... I know they said repeatedly Plaion don't tell them what to do but maybe it came from the very top - Embracer. Apparently they're sinking and according to some reports KCD2 massive success is basically the only thing that can save them. Maybe they broke their hands-off rule just for this time to push through some ridiculous token POC to avoid the same shitstorm as 7 years ago.

Except they somehow didn't notice this time around absolutely nobody would've given a fuck.
 

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Copium runs strong ITT.

Vavra runs the cunning strategy: HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW CHUDS? *wink* *wink* please buy my game

But like all other devs, he accepted Blackrock money and sweet DEI money he pretends to fight against.

They only have one ideology: Money.
 

Ryzer

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Copium runs strong ITT.

Vavra runs the cunning strategy: HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW CHUDS? *wink* *wink* please buy my game
Yea you don't know shit about shit
You do? All I know is that Warhorse was and is no different than any other game studio, but yeah keep believing in your fairy tales about knight Vavra fighting DEI and cheated by the editor. lol.
 
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